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Thread started 11/29/05 12:17pm

ScarletteP

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Jill Jones vs. Apollonia/Vanity6

OMG, I just got TOTALLY blessed with hearing Jill Jones' record (thank you Cazzie)!!! Here's my question... Now, I L-O-V-E Apples & Vanity both, but why the hell wouldn't P have Jill fronting that act? What a freaking cool voice!!! ((P, what on Earth were you thinking??? You couldda made so much more money!)) Anybody know if Mz. Jones has another album out? I know she was touring w/ Chic for a while, but I will cry if she does not have a second record!
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Reply #1 posted 11/29/05 12:42pm

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Jill released an album with Chris Bruce called 'Two' a few years ago. It's pretty good. The music is closer to Wendy & Lisa than the pop-funk of her first album on Paisley Park.

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Reply #2 posted 11/29/05 1:28pm

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Huh? No! I like Vanity and Apollonia much better. Honestly I don't think Jill was all that attractive for some reason. And Vanity 6/Apollonia 6 needed sex appeal and Vanity/Apollonia were perfect for that.
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Reply #3 posted 11/29/05 1:50pm

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Krystal666 said:

Huh? No! I like Vanity and Apollonia much better. Honestly I don't think Jill was all that attractive for some reason. And Vanity 6/Apollonia 6 needed sex appeal and Vanity/Apollonia were perfect for that.


Of course, Vanity was sexiness itself. Jill Jones, for me, was a close second, followed by Susan. I never considered Appollonia sexy at all (her breasts are a different story) in Appollonia 6. She's gorgeous, though:)
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Reply #4 posted 11/29/05 2:11pm

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I like the "Apollonia 6" and "Vanity 6" albums much better than the "Jill Jones" album. Jill's album has some good stuff on it but Prince had already made his "artsy/fartsy" change when he worked with Jill on her album. His style change spilled over into her album and made it weaker than it should have been.

Jill could have had a much better album if Prince had produced her earlier when the other girls' albums came out. At the time that Jill's album actually did come out, she would have been better off letting either Jesse Johnson or Jam and Lewis produce it.
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Reply #5 posted 11/29/05 3:10pm

Zelaira

Vanity 6 first..Jill Jones album is GREAT..LOVE JILL. Apolonia 3rd. I like Jill JONES PERSONAE the best...Apples is SWEET.Vanity was HOT!
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Reply #6 posted 11/29/05 3:42pm

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Krystal666 said:

Huh? No! I like Vanity and Apollonia much better. Honestly I don't think Jill was all that attractive for some reason. And Vanity 6/Apollonia 6 needed sex appeal and Vanity/Apollonia were perfect for that.

Is it cuz Jill doesn't look like she has Spanish blood in her? Just a thought.
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Reply #7 posted 11/29/05 3:44pm

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vainandy said:

I like the "Apollonia 6" and "Vanity 6" albums much better than the "Jill Jones" album. Jill's album has some good stuff on it but Prince had already made his "artsy/fartsy" change when he worked with Jill on her album. His style change spilled over into her album and made it weaker than it should have been.

Jill could have had a much better album if Prince had produced her earlier when the other girls' albums came out. At the time that Jill's album actually did come out, she would have been better off letting either Jesse Johnson or Jam and Lewis produce it.

Exactly. This has been beat to death with a big bat. Jill was definately the best singer and the most talented out of the three. Vanity was vicious. Apples was just a knock off of Vanity with brain dead talent.
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Reply #8 posted 11/29/05 4:01pm

Zelaira

I ALWAYS thought JILL JONES was SEXY... Always thought she was PRETTY. I don't Know how people could say she wasn't. Jill has a GREAT looking Face. Great Bone structure. Look at 1999 and look at Graffiti Bridge. She is PRETTY. I didn't really think she was Made to look so Beautiful in Purple Rain. She Wasn't the star so played down. Her renditions of Prince's songs Really good. Jill CAN SING!
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Reply #9 posted 11/29/05 4:27pm

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I'm with the consensus on this one. Jill Jones was definitely more talented than the rest. Her voice was light years beyond anything Vanity or Appollonia could accomplish. But Vanity was sex personified! Vanity started off flatchested and still had people drooling. Later she got a boob job, but she never needed it. She just had IT! Apples was a cute substitute that pales when compared to the original. I'd rather look at Vanity than Jill Jones. But I'd rather listen to Jill than Vanity. So your assessment was correct. Talent wise: 1)Jill Jones, 2) Vanity, 3) Appollonia. Sex Appeal: 1)Vanity, 2) Appollonia and 3) Jill Jones. Mind you, Jill did look hot on the Automatic video...
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Reply #10 posted 11/29/05 5:14pm

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Jill looked pretty hot pullin' them panties down in GB.

Jill Jones in Grafitti Bridge (1990)

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I agree though, not fronting a "6" group. Solo act for sure.
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Reply #11 posted 11/29/05 5:27pm

dewalliz

I have to for Jill on this one definately. She have the beauty and also talent just as well and I always saying that I wished Rick James would took her under her wing early on since she once worked for Teena Marie as a backup singer and Rick James would been great producer and also even mentor for her. I like her debut album but at the same time I think that Prince could have gave her stronger material. And also that Paisley Park didn't properly promote her either. Finally, for awhile Jill was patient to Prince as he was doing his own thing and also he was doing work for others. She was even satisfied of being even the smallest part in his life before their started to deteriorate around 1989.

I want to know had Prince called truce with her since I been hearing he had reaching out to the other people who he had hurted in the past.

What in the hell happened to her? her website isn't too much active and seems like it is down totally except she had the page about her cd.
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Reply #12 posted 11/29/05 5:44pm

dewalliz

Zelaira said:

I ALWAYS thought JILL JONES was SEXY... Always thought she was PRETTY. I don't Know how people could say she wasn't. Jill has a GREAT looking Face. Great Bone structure. Look at 1999 and look at Graffiti Bridge. She is PRETTY. I didn't really think she was Made to look so Beautiful in Purple Rain. She Wasn't the star so played down. Her renditions of Prince's songs Really good. Jill CAN SING!


I agreed and Jill happened to be prettiest among the two and also happen to be classy too. I really like her style.
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Reply #13 posted 11/29/05 5:50pm

Zelaira

Dew..I Agree 100%. Jill is Really Great. Wish she would do more singing.... I Can't Understand anyone saying this girl ISN'T PRETTY she sure as Hell IS!And the ATTITUDe is GREAT TOO! JILL has that GREAT ATTITUDE and I KNOW PRINCE DUG IT.... GOOD JILL.....
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Reply #14 posted 11/29/05 5:57pm

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When it comes to looks, Jill was drop dead gorgeous in the movie "Purple Rain" and the "1999" video. Blonde is definately her color and the hairstyle was kickin' too.
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Reply #15 posted 11/29/05 5:59pm

Zelaira

Looked a Marilyn MONROE,but I like the Black hair better for her. She looks a Puerto Rican HOTTIE. biggrin
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Reply #16 posted 11/29/05 6:55pm

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"well, Ill be here" biggrin
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Reply #17 posted 11/29/05 7:57pm

dewalliz

Zelaira said:

Looked a Marilyn MONROE,but I like the Black hair better for her. She looks a Puerto Rican HOTTIE. biggrin


She does look like one since some Puerto Ricans that I came across with have(not all) some Spanish, African, and Indian blood. But in Jill's case she's black and Italian.

Anyhoo, i thought she was latina until I read that Uptown article. The reason why was because Prince had a huge thing for them. Even on that 1999 video and on Purple Rain I knew she was ethnic, but couldn't figure out who she was.

Jill had it rough in the 90s. She couldn't work with any other record company or something due to her screw up and strict contract with Paisley Park, the death of her mother and uncle who was Prince's hairdresser, and her being in the hosiptal.

I heard that she is happily married and lives in Brooklyn with her daughter. I hope she found peace and also happiness through the rough decade she had. i hope she doing okay and haven't heard much from her since the Family Jamm and also on the PR 20th anniversaty and my she didn't look her best.

I never heard her 2001 album and I heard mixed reviews about it because it sound more rockish compare to her first one and also her wailing voice gets criticize too. I will probably get it soon from ebay or something to judge for myself. Have any y'all hear her 2001 album?
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Reply #18 posted 11/29/05 8:29pm

Zelaira

Really.. She lives in BROOKLYN? LOL..As LL say..I represent QUEENs ..she was RAISE OUT IN BROOKLYN.....
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Reply #19 posted 11/30/05 1:22am

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blackguitaristz said:

Krystal666 said:

Huh? No! I like Vanity and Apollonia much better. Honestly I don't think Jill was all that attractive for some reason. And Vanity 6/Apollonia 6 needed sex appeal and Vanity/Apollonia were perfect for that.

Is it cuz Jill doesn't look like she has Spanish blood in her? Just a thought.


No it is cuz Apples had a sweet, innocent face with big hair and a killer body that is why. biggrin
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Reply #20 posted 11/30/05 1:51am

Zelaira

Krys..Apples is /Was Beautiful but NOT his TYPE.. Kinda too Swet,Too Clean..Not EARTHY ENOUGH..Not RAW enough..NOT DIRTY Enough. He kinda digs on THE DIRTIER,RAWER... That was Vanity...Apples was CHOSEN NOT REALLY WHAT HE CHOSE... He is More Vanity/JILL..... He likes a Bit Tough.... Bit Street...
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Reply #21 posted 11/30/05 8:27am

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Zelaira said:

Krys..Apples is /Was Beautiful but NOT his TYPE.. Kinda too Swet,Too Clean..Not EARTHY ENOUGH..Not RAW enough..NOT DIRTY Enough. He kinda digs on THE DIRTIER,RAWER... That was Vanity...Apples was CHOSEN NOT REALLY WHAT HE CHOSE... He is More Vanity/JILL..... He likes a Bit Tough.... Bit Street...


Zel I think Prince likes lots of different kinds of women. The extent to which he could like a woman could be argued but he likes the bimbos too. biggrin
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Reply #22 posted 11/30/05 12:39pm

dewalliz

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Really.. She lives in BROOKLYN? LOL..As LL say..I represent QUEENs ..she was RAISE OUT IN BROOKLYN.....


Jill Jones wasn't Raised in Brooklyn, she was born and raised on Ohio but I read in interview she moved from UK where she stay most of the early 90s to be with her late mother in NYC to take care of her in the final years of her life. And Jill still lives in New York.
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Reply #23 posted 11/30/05 9:16pm

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dewalliz said:

Zelaira said:

Really.. She lives in BROOKLYN? LOL..As LL say..I represent QUEENs ..she was RAISE OUT IN BROOKLYN.....


Jill Jones wasn't Raised in Brooklyn, she was born and raised on Ohio but I read in interview she moved from UK where she stay most of the early 90s to be with her late mother in NYC to take care of her in the final years of her life. And Jill still lives in New York.





I think dewalliz is quoting the LL song "Doin it" out of silliness not to imply that Jill was raised in BK.
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Reply #24 posted 12/01/05 10:55am

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J.J., Vanity, then Apples (damn her voice was terrible. Take Me With U always comes to mind.)
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Reply #25 posted 12/01/05 9:14pm

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Anyone at the Family Jamm saw how unbelievable Jill looks..... she actually look even hotter today than in 1984!!!

BTW she modeled in between pasiley park stuff and her 90's stuff.
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Reply #26 posted 12/02/05 4:25am

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BeautifulOneJem said:

J.J., Vanity, then Apples (damn her voice was terrible. Take Me With U always comes to mind.)


Holy crap! My voice makes Apollonia's sound like an opera singer. lol
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Reply #27 posted 12/02/05 5:43am

MrsJimmyFallon

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Anyone at the Family Jamm saw how unbelievable Jill looks..... she actually look even hotter today than in 1984!!!

BTW she modeled in between pasiley park stuff and her 90's stuff.


when did Jill's official website disappear? i tried just now to go there and all that's up on it is a note saying her music is available thru CDBaby and iTunes.

http://www.jilljones.net
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Reply #28 posted 12/02/05 9:22pm

dewalliz

MrsJimmyFallon said:

GaryMF said:

Anyone at the Family Jamm saw how unbelievable Jill looks..... she actually look even hotter today than in 1984!!!

BTW she modeled in between pasiley park stuff and her 90's stuff.


when did Jill's official website disappear? i tried just now to go there and all that's up on it is a note saying her music is available thru CDBaby and iTunes.

http://www.jilljones.net


That what I am saying! neutral I don't know why Jill's site is offline. Maybe Joe Kelley the talk show host might know since it seems like he knows a lot about Jill.

Just several months ago it said that the site was under construction. Anyway, Jill's old site wasn't all that and it was basically one page with only a few pictures of her and mention where to get her cd and briefly current news about herself. The only thing that made her site was so creative was when there that Family Jamm picture of her flashing at the intro.

Her old website was just too plain and boring zzz and as a webmastress myself I know. lol
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Reply #29 posted 12/02/05 9:34pm

dewalliz

boriquateddy said:

dewalliz said:



Jill Jones wasn't Raised in Brooklyn, she was born and raised on Ohio but I read in interview she moved from UK where she stay most of the early 90s to be with her late mother in NYC to take care of her in the final years of her life. And Jill still lives in New York.





I think dewalliz is quoting the LL song "Doin it" out of silliness not to imply that Jill was raised in BK.



I thought she was being literal since I thought I read somewhere that Zelaira said she is from NYC or that she's from Queens? That was why I corrected her when I thought she implied that Jill was from Brooklyn while Zelaira is representing Queens as she stressed "just like LL said".

Anyway I know about my LL COOL J and that sound is so tight and LL COOL still da man but will never be mines. neutral
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