EverlastingNow said:

Yes I had seen and listen to the shows and I even got some of the shows in my collection but sorry her funk skills weren't hardcore enough for my taste or didn't turn me to groove that much but hey that didn't stop me from enjoying seeing Prince's performance on the Parade shows. After all I was paying more attention to Prince's spontaneous, outstanding and memorable presence than Wendy. I wished I was onstage dancing with him with some of the dance moves he done. I wanted to see Brownmark but he was so invisable on some of the shows. Eric was the bomb of playing that saxaphone and I think Atlanta Bliss was around doing his thing of playing the horn.
[Edited 11/21/05 19:57pm]

sonofblade said:

Yeah, but
the scene where he looks at his watch;
he really nailed it
don't ya think?

Illustrator said:

He looked so cool how he looked at his watch and when I watched PR the first time, I thought he was going to say something after he looked the watch but instead his eyes shifted on Prince. What a classic.

dewalliz said:

So you seen Prince and the Revolution on tv only? Sad. The funny thing is Wendy could probably give Brownmark a run for his money on BASS. Go listen to Seal's "Bring it on" or Wendy and Lisa's "Honeymoon Express"."Are You my Baby", or"Sideshow" and tell me that girl ain't funky.

EverlastingNow said:

You kidding right? Why is sad? I can't helped that I was born in the 80s and so logically I was too young to see the Revolution live when they was together. Hell, I didn't became a Prince fan until 1989 after his song Batdance grew on me. Therefore thanks to fans who capture their performances, they gave me an opportunity to watch the Revolution over and over via mpeg in so I never watch them on tv live or recorded show.

Back when I was curious learning more about solo efforts of Prince's associates, I had listened to just about all their albums from Appollonia to Jill Jones and even Wendy and Lisa and my favorite funk ones happened to be from Jesse Johnson and Alexander O'neal and Morris Day. My favorite associate albums were from Jill Jones and the Time. I know Seal wasn't associate but Seal's albums were wack except for a couple songs and my favorite is Hey Joe.

Sorry but Brownmark knows his craft more on bass. Andre does too. Now I know of another former Revolutionary that is funky besides Brownmark and that is the Doctor. Now even Prince said Matt is funky and you could hear his influence on Dirty Mind and the early Time albums. Matt could kick some ass on those synethizers. Those two would fitted in easily in my favorite funk groups such as Ohio Players, Gap Band, Lakeside, Roger & Zapp, and Brass Construction.

dewalliz said:

Sad because I know what you missed, I can't IMAGINE not seeing Prince in the 80's, if I had missed the 1999,Parade, or Lovesexy shows I probably would have given up being a fan knowing that I missed Prince at the top of his game. So I give you credit for hanging on despite all that. I'm a big fan of all that you mentioned and have Brownmark's solo work including artists he produced and I'm telling Wendy is as funky as any member of the Revolution. Her influences were the Ohio Players and a lot of the funk legends of the day and listening to her groove on Controversy or A Love Bizarre you can hear those chops. I'm not knocking Brownmark at all but Wendy diserves the same credit for being funky.
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if Wendy is funky on bass she had 2 good teachers P and Mark. But in keeping with the title of the thread.....P had the crab in the barrell mentality w/BMarx. Mark was the 1st in a long line to be employed by P after some moderate success. Whereas dez,Z and fink were there beforehand Mark was treated as hired hand from jump. Keep in mind he had only been w/P 3yrs when PR came out....

I would have to agree with EverlastingNow.

So much so, that I would say if you don't think Wendy'd bass playing is funkier than Brownmark... you don't know funk.

LovesexyIsThe1 said:

Yes I do know my funk and likely more so than u. I probably got funk singles that you never heard of beyond the overplayed mainstream ones. I also come from a family who lives on funk so I challenge you about your claim. and I wasn't feeling Wendy on her funk. But if you guys feel her funk that your Kool-Aid but stop trying to force it down my throat.

I ain't trying to be a mod or nothing but if you guys want to brag about Wendy's funkness go start your own thread, I am more interested discussing about Brownmark because after all he gets the least props on here. The man can't have his own thread properly without someone trying jacked it and force their likeness of W&L onto others.

EverlastingNow said:

Oh well if I missed it live but at least I got the memories capture in my collection. I can't change the past or the era which I born in but at least I can vision and try to imagine what it is feel to be there at the time. I am not knocking Wendy down either as a musician because I give it to her of being in a field that not too many females do for so many years and I know too how hard as hell of trying to make it in a male dominant field trust me on that one. I know Sheila E feels the same way as a drummer. I bet that they both had struggled too to be taken seriously despite Prince happened to be Wendy's first big break. Wendy is great and does know some of her shit as a guitar player but I am standing by what I said.

JQuad said:

Co-sign.

dewalliz said:

Dude that's funny challenging my funk background. You know all those singles you listen to?? Those are the bands I was seeing LIVE and learning about the funk at the feet of George Clinton and Bootsy Collins. I also come from a funk family so you can just leave that one alone now. I wasn't jacking your thread but when someone on this thread mentioned that Wendy couldn't stretch musically I had to say something. I clearly put here that I love Brownmark's style and music so dry your eyes with the "force their likeness of W and L onto others" stuff.

JQuad said:

Isn't that assuming that Wendy couldn't play bass BEFORE she met Prince?

EverlastingNow said:

I wasn't going to respond anymore off topic but I have to make some corrections: First of all where I come from dude is a guy and I am 100 lady . And second I never said you didn't know your funkness, I was referring to the other poster who had challenged my funkness so pay attention before you respond and I know it gets tiresome after having your eyes on the computer screen for hours.

Nice that you see those legands and I do own a few songs by George Clinton and Bootsey but what you will see in my collection are rare funk singles from Sun, Vaughn Mason, Tom Browne, Mass Construction, Jerry Knight, Ozone, Slave, Pleasure, and many more.

Enjoyed the debate but back to the topic.

People can't we all just get along.....Wendy funkier than BMarx not likley....why? the Revolution was her first band,1st gig. BMarx was putting in work around Mpls in funk bands,covering a load of funk tunes b4 his shot at joining Prince's group . I'm not taking anything from Wendy....but it's no way anybody on this site can sway me to believe she can play "let's work" and do the dance steps at the same time . Rhonda is the 1st bassist since BMarx I've heard nail D.M.S.R(i never heard sonny play it). Let's not forget BMarx did guitar work on his solo projects and productions for others. He wasn't only a bass player. Just as Wendy as argued wasn't just a guitar player.

Plus for you true collectors....87-88 Stevie Wonder had a MTV special for his Characters album. At the end of the special Stevie, Stevie Ray Vaughan and BMarx jammmed on "Superstition". Stevie gave him a huge shout out....Later it was mentioned that Stevie requested BMarx be on the show. Marks solo joint had just come out around that time also.....

JQuad said:

That is one of the reasons why Bmark interested me as a bass player and and at times he did jam his bass and he was also getting down with the dance moves . A lot of people I know thought that was cool too. Not too many people can do that!

I don't know why he left the business was it because his album didn't do well? I never heard his solo album and his album happened to be one of Prince's associates that I don't own. It seems like rare to find. The recent that I seem him was that Family Jamm and I don't know what he is doing now.

Rhonda is a badass too and I seen her played when I seen a couple Musicology concerts on TV. I forgot about her contributions since I don't follow Prince's current lineup.

I bet him performed with the two Stevies would been interesting to see.

Nvncible1 said:

andre was prince best bass player ever then levi then mark!

BlaqueKnight said:

I know how you feel and I trust my ears too especially when comes to funk!!!!!

[quote] R U Crazy? Did u not hear the drumming on the Parade Tour???
[Edited 12/24/05 2:39am]

cshadow said:[quote]



Yeah I heard the drumming on that tour as well as the one's b4 the Parade tour and the drumming after. Z was/is a rock style type drummer.One tour couldn't save him. He was "let" go in the end because his skill was limited.

cshadow said:[quote]


yeah did prince took over behind Bobby's drumset briefly at one point during the parade tour? it was kind like telling bobby z hey you are good but not as good as me of being a drummer.

BlaqueKnight said:

OMG, you actually use BANG BANG as your example??? Now that's worthy of a BBBBBWWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. God at least name one of the tracks on the FIRST album. I just seen Wendy stank up the stage doing a cover of Sly Stone's "Let me Have it All" and even Prince's face got twisted. And I have all of the Mazarati tracks including the Saga of a Man tracks and it's paint by number funk ANYway. Funkiest track on Mazarati is 100mph and that's a Prince song. The live Purple Rain tour version of Irrisitible Bitch" is proof to me that she can stand next to Mark on the funk.

WonderU said:

So Prince's opinion what he thinks of Wendy funkiness means valid and conclusion that Wendy is funk? I think not! No way she is nearly as funky as Brownmark or even Andre. Wendy is good and all but no way she is nearly hardcore as Brownmark on bass. That like saying that Madonna's voice is soulful like Teena Marie's. I trusted my ears when comes to funk. Wendy is good at doing rock solos and I admitted she can get down on Darling Nikki solo during Purple Rain tour. If Wendy so funky then how come the funkiest song on her solo album is Are you my baby and I consider that to be their only funk song?

I disagreed that the funkiest track on Mazarati is 100mph. How about Player's Ball. That is even funkier.

dewalliz said:

Check the credits on Are you my Baby????? Jesse Johnson on Guitar.....

AVENUEMAN said:

Check again. Jesse Johnson plays guitar on Satisfaction

WonderU said:

I stand corrected!!!!!

dewalliz said:

Let's just say that YES I feel Prince's opinion of funk may carry more weight than yours for me. Funny that you feel that Are You my Baby? is a funky track, you do realize that's Wendy on bass right?? Your knowledge on the Wendy subject gets driven home by "Wendy is goot at doing rock solos" because that is simply not true. Don't believe me? Ask her and she'll tell you the same, she's not comfortable soloing. Player's Ball???? It's a cool track but that's not my definition of funky. Funk never makes me want to put on my pearls and jump up and down like Player's Ball does.

WonderU said:

omfg: I didnt know that Wendy played bass on "Are You my baby" Seriously Wonder U I dont think it takes a rock scientist to figure out who plays who on Lisa and Wendy's albums and it sure hell wasn't Lisa playing bass and I do digged Lisa more than Wendy but even Lisa doesnt know too much on funk. I am not going to repeat myself nor change my mind of where I stand on Wendy so reread my past posts.

So Prince knowledge of funk carries more than me why because he's Prince or he's older than I? It just like saying Prince's JW is valid because...well he's Prince. Saying Prince's knowledge on funk more than me is subjective not a fact. Hell I know some funk lovers who are the same age as Prince or even older questioned Prince's funkiness especially on his first five albums because Prince mixture his genre with rock and some pop and disco. But Prince proven them wrong when they found out later on that it was Prince who done most of the Time's albums which shows Prince's true funk at it's best. They wondered why Prince's albums werent like the Times and it was because Prince didnt want to be pigholed of being know as an R&B and funk artist at the time he was hungry for a crossover. I maybe younger but dont underestimated the child of 70's funk lovers who listened and then exposed me to groups and artists like Mass Construction, Brick, Fatback, Donald Byrd, Bill Summers why Prince was into Sly and Joni Mitchell

I dont know what is your definition of funk but from the funk lovers who also like Barkays, Pleasure, and Dazz Band (no I am not talking about the ones that likes the mainstream songs only) they concluded that Player's Ball is a funky track even though Mazarati's outfits were wack and it turn off some people. However George Clinton and Parliment and so where other funk bands wore better outrageous outfits but that doesn't stop them from being like by many funk lovers, so I think that bad outfits is irrevelent of being funky.