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Thread started 10/20/05 12:01pm

urbanfox3105

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'COLOR OF SUCCESS' or 'DAYDREAMING' ?!

Comparing both albums it seems that 'Daydreaming' is the better one. it got more catchy hooks, more ambitious and not as incomplete as "Color OF Success'.whats your opinion- which one u like more?
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Reply #1 posted 10/21/05 9:18am

BEAUGARDE

R U serious?! Not on Daydreaming's best day will it ever be better than Color of Success! I don't know 2 many people that had gotten into Daydreaming and the singles Fishnet & Love Is A Game was the shit but it didn't have much more 2 offer. Color Of Success has the title song, The Character, Oak Tree, Don't Wait 4 Me & Love (Addiction). I would compare Color Of Succcess 2 Ice Cream Castle, What Time Is It? and The Time. Daydreaming is really no match 4 Pandemonium but is better than Guaranteed.
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Reply #2 posted 10/21/05 10:25am

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BEAUGARDE said:

R U serious?! Not on Daydreaming's best day will it ever be better than Color of Success! I don't know 2 many people that had gotten into Daydreaming and the singles Fishnet & Love Is A Game was the shit but it didn't have much more 2 offer. Color Of Success has the title song, The Character, Oak Tree, Don't Wait 4 Me & Love (Addiction). I would compare Color Of Succcess 2 Ice Cream Castle, What Time Is It? and The Time. Daydreaming is really no match 4 Pandemonium but is better than Guaranteed.



ditto that, plus COS was a better tour.
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Reply #3 posted 10/21/05 11:37am

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i´m serious as a heart attack! daydreaming is more action. for example the love/addiction-song starts great, but for its length to little is happening. if u take any daydreaming song- they r tight and well edited. i just got these 2 albums of M.Day but i can say: Daydreaming got more force.
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Reply #4 posted 10/21/05 2:48pm

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I like 'Daydreaming' better. It sounds more refined to me than the first record.
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Reply #5 posted 10/21/05 7:32pm

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Morris must've gotten writers block on "Daydreaming". Jam & Lewis helped him out on "Fishnet and "Love Is A Game" the rest of the album is forgettable. Morris came up with some good material for "Color Of Success" I like "The Character" Good song.
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Reply #6 posted 10/21/05 8:19pm

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I'd say 'Color Of Success' is the better Morris album. Haven't heard 'Guaranteed' so I won't comment on it.
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Reply #7 posted 10/24/05 4:55pm

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Daydreaming is better and tad funkier. Oak Tree was a rip-off of The Bird, so immediately that gets put aside.
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Reply #8 posted 10/24/05 10:15pm

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I am still trying to scrounge the ends of the earth for Daydreaming! I love Fishnet! sexy
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Reply #9 posted 10/31/05 12:25pm

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I like Color of sucess better overal, but like most people have already said Fishnet and Love is a game are better than any two songs on color of sucess, but the rest of the songs don't measure up
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Reply #10 posted 11/01/05 4:28pm

BEAUGARDE

Rhastus said:

I like Color of sucess better overal, but like most people have already said Fishnet and Love is a game are better than any two songs on color of sucess, but the rest of the songs don't measure up

Totally disagree. Don't Wait 4 Me is better than Love Is A Game and Color Of Success is better than Fishnet.
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Reply #11 posted 11/01/05 4:34pm

Rhastus

BEAUGARDE said:

Rhastus said:

I like Color of sucess better overal, but like most people have already said Fishnet and Love is a game are better than any two songs on color of sucess, but the rest of the songs don't measure up

Totally disagree. Don't Wait 4 Me is better than Love Is A Game and Color Of Success is better than Fishnet.



Well everybody has a different opinion thats for sure. Fishnet is easily the best solo( If you can even call it that since everybody from the Time except prince worked on it) song he ever did. I like both albums, but I have a soft spot for Color of sucess
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Reply #12 posted 11/02/05 12:38pm

BEAUGARDE

Fishnet was the shit! But as far as I'm concerned as an album Color Of Success is just as as good as any of The Time's first 3 albums and Daydreaming just isn't as interesting. sad
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Reply #13 posted 11/02/05 5:48pm

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BEAUGARDE said:

Rhastus said:

I like Color of sucess better overal, but like most people have already said Fishnet and Love is a game are better than any two songs on color of sucess, but the rest of the songs don't measure up

Totally disagree. Don't Wait 4 Me is better than Love Is A Game and Color Of Success is better than Fishnet.


Well the public thinks differently. "Fishnet" was a much bigger hit than "Color Of Success".
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Reply #14 posted 11/02/05 8:42pm

Rhastus

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Fishnet was the shit! But as far as I'm concerned as an album Color Of Success is just as as good as any of The Time's first 3 albums and Daydreaming just isn't as interesting. sad


I like color of sucess, but its not even in the same ballpark as What time is it
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Reply #15 posted 11/03/05 11:08am

BEAUGARDE

sextonseven said:

BEAUGARDE said:


Totally disagree. Don't Wait 4 Me is better than Love Is A Game and Color Of Success is better than Fishnet.


Well the public thinks differently. "Fishnet" was a much bigger hit than "Color Of Success".

R U speakin' 4 the public now? Flyte Tyme lover!
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Reply #16 posted 11/03/05 12:23pm

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BEAUGARDE said:

sextonseven said:



Well the public thinks differently. "Fishnet" was a much bigger hit than "Color Of Success".

R U speakin' 4 the public now? Flyte Tyme lover!


I'm just repeating what the chart numbers say: http://www.prince.org/msg/5/164967
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Reply #17 posted 11/03/05 5:52pm

BEAUGARDE

sextonseven said:

BEAUGARDE said:


R U speakin' 4 the public now? Flyte Tyme lover!


I'm just repeating what the chart numbers say: http://www.prince.org/msg/5/164967

The charts might say Madonna is better than Prince, would that be true?
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Reply #18 posted 11/04/05 8:28am

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BEAUGARDE said:

sextonseven said:



I'm just repeating what the chart numbers say: http://www.prince.org/msg/5/164967

The charts might say Madonna is better than Prince, would that be true?


The charts don't tell you that anyone is better than anyone else. They say which album/single was more successful. "Fishnet" was a much bigger single than "Color Of Success".
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Reply #19 posted 11/04/05 3:52pm

BEAUGARDE

sextonseven said:

BEAUGARDE said:


The charts might say Madonna is better than Prince, would that be true?


The charts don't tell you that anyone is better than anyone else. They say which album/single was more successful. "Fishnet" was a much bigger single than "Color Of Success".

Sextonseven, I think U like me! Atleast debating with me, and the feeling is so mutual but anywho Jerkout is Morris Day and The Time's best selling single, now does that mean it's also their best song?
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Reply #20 posted 11/04/05 3:56pm

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BEAUGARDE said:

sextonseven said:



The charts don't tell you that anyone is better than anyone else. They say which album/single was more successful. "Fishnet" was a much bigger single than "Color Of Success".

Sextonseven, I think U like me! Atleast debating with me, and the feeling is so mutual but anywho Jerkout is Morris Day and The Time's best selling single, now does that mean it's also their best song?


I don't believe anyone has said so far that "Jerk Out" is the Time's best song. It may have been their biggest hit, but I personally think "777-9311" is the Time's best song.
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Reply #21 posted 11/04/05 3:59pm

BEAUGARDE

sextonseven said:

BEAUGARDE said:


Sextonseven, I think U like me! Atleast debating with me, and the feeling is so mutual but anywho Jerkout is Morris Day and The Time's best selling single, now does that mean it's also their best song?


I don't believe anyone has said so far that "Jerk Out" is the Time's best song. It may have been their biggest hit, but I personally think "777-9311" is the Time's best song.

I'm just trying 2 prove my point about charts. Just b'cuz 'Fishnet' sold more doesn't mean it's better.
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Reply #22 posted 11/04/05 4:06pm

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BEAUGARDE said:

sextonseven said:



I don't believe anyone has said so far that "Jerk Out" is the Time's best song. It may have been their biggest hit, but I personally think "777-9311" is the Time's best song.

I'm just trying 2 prove my point about charts. Just b'cuz 'Fishnet' sold more doesn't mean it's better.


No, but a lot more people liked "Fishnet". That is what I'm saying.
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Reply #23 posted 11/04/05 4:11pm

BEAUGARDE

sextonseven said:

BEAUGARDE said:


I'm just trying 2 prove my point about charts. Just b'cuz 'Fishnet' sold more doesn't mean it's better.


No, but a lot more people liked "Fishnet". That is what I'm saying.

Not where I'm from
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Reply #24 posted 11/04/05 8:43pm

monte

it doesn't mean more people liked it. maybe more people heard it. but that could be because of a number of reasons that really don't change the nature of the song itself including things like promotion, cover art, historical importance etc. some of the greatest music wasn't recognized at the time because of pollitical social reasons

chart positions are worth noting but i'm pretty sure most people prefer DMSR to delirious even though delirious was more 'sucessful'

that said i prefer colour of sucess and i wasn't alive when it came out as a single so where's my vote on the charts!!!!!

and i prefer colour of sucess to daydreaming
[Edited 11/4/05 21:11pm]
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Reply #25 posted 11/05/05 8:44am

BEAUGARDE

I totally agree, for example '7' is a #1 single 4 Prince and 'If I Was Your Girlfriend' didn't do well at all on the charts but I bet more people know & like "If I Was Your Girlfriend' more. wink
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Reply #26 posted 11/05/05 9:17am

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monte said:

it doesn't mean more people liked it. maybe more people heard it. but that could be because of a number of reasons that really don't change the nature of the song itself including things like promotion, cover art, historical importance etc. some of the greatest music wasn't recognized at the time because of pollitical social reasons

chart positions are worth noting but i'm pretty sure most people prefer DMSR to delirious even though delirious was more 'sucessful'

that said i prefer colour of sucess and i wasn't alive when it came out as a single so where's my vote on the charts!!!!!

and i prefer colour of sucess to daydreaming
[Edited 11/4/05 21:11pm]


How can you compare the success of "Delirious" to "DMSR"? The latter was never a single so there are no sales to base the comparison on.

I'm willing to bet that if the "Fishnet" single sold that much more copies than the "Color Of Success" single then more people liked it. As for your political and social reasons for one song being heard and not the other, we're not talking about The Velvet Underground vs. Green Day here. These are two Morris Day singles. Chances are if one person has heard one, they have heard the other.
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Reply #27 posted 11/05/05 9:37am

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sextonseven said:

monte said:

it doesn't mean more people liked it. maybe more people heard it. but that could be because of a number of reasons that really don't change the nature of the song itself including things like promotion, cover art, historical importance etc. some of the greatest music wasn't recognized at the time because of pollitical social reasons

chart positions are worth noting but i'm pretty sure most people prefer DMSR to delirious even though delirious was more 'sucessful'

that said i prefer colour of sucess and i wasn't alive when it came out as a single so where's my vote on the charts!!!!!

and i prefer colour of sucess to daydreaming
[Edited 11/4/05 21:11pm]



How can you compare the success of "Delirious" to "DMSR"? The latter was never a single so there are no sales to base the comparison on.

I'm willing to bet that if the "Fishnet" single sold that much more copies than the "Color Of Success" single then more people liked it. As for your political and social reasons for one song being heard and not the other, we're not talking about The Velvet Underground vs. Green Day here. These are two Morris Day singles. Chances are if one person has heard one, they have heard the other.


he´s right, well said! cool
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Reply #28 posted 11/05/05 6:00pm

monte

good points

i'm just trying to say that people's taste does not necessarily relate to sucess which is often implied.

i don't necessarily believe if a single sells more the public liked it more. but i think in this case you are right. i'm being a bit idealistic.

i just personally don't like charts because they affect what people listen to in the future. because of sucess more people will seek out '7' instead of 'if i was your girlfriend'. more people will hear delirious instead of DMSR because it's on the 'hits'. i could imagine people wanting to buy an old morris day album and when finding out that fishnet was a bit of a hit they go for daydreaming.

i don't know. charts are interesting historically.
sorry i'm not making much sense. i'm just trying to say charts can be extremely decieving of people's likes and dislikes at times. (this probably isn't the best example)
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Reply #29 posted 11/06/05 9:27am

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monte said:

good points

i'm just trying to say that people's taste does not necessarily relate to sucess which is often implied.

i don't necessarily believe if a single sells more the public liked it more. but i think in this case you are right. i'm being a bit idealistic.

i just personally don't like charts because they affect what people listen to in the future. because of sucess more people will seek out '7' instead of 'if i was your girlfriend'. more people will hear delirious instead of DMSR because it's on the 'hits'. i could imagine people wanting to buy an old morris day album and when finding out that fishnet was a bit of a hit they go for daydreaming.

i don't know. charts are interesting historically.
sorry i'm not making much sense. i'm just trying to say charts can be extremely decieving of people's likes and dislikes at times. (this probably isn't the best example)


I totally understand what you mean. A lot of Prince fans that I have met love "DMSR" and don't care too much for "Delirious". The latter may appeal more to non-Prince fans with it's Elvis-like rockabilly sound and that may have been a factor in it being a top ten single. The same reasoning can be applied to "7" vs. "If I Was Your Girlfriend" although an interesting note about those is that "Girlfriend" was fairly successful on the R&B charts (top 20) whereas "7" did not make that chart at all.
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