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Thread started 09/24/05 6:54pm

sitruk7

Which associated artist(s) did you expect to have a more successful career than they actually did?

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Reply #1 posted 09/24/05 6:58pm

Anxiety

jill jones. when her album first came out, i really thought it would get more attention than it did. it certainly deserved more attention.
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Reply #2 posted 09/25/05 7:50am

sitruk7

I knew it wouldn't be long before she was mentioned and rightfully so. Though others may disagree, I think Taja Seville also had the look,voice and commercial appeal to have made it further.
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Reply #3 posted 09/25/05 9:27am

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Andre, since his first album, I thought he would be putting them out year after year just like P
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Reply #4 posted 09/25/05 9:54am

sitruk7

4nowneway said:

Andre, since his first album, I thought he would be putting them out year after year just like P

You'd have thought so. I'm not really sure what went wrong. At least he had a good amount of success with producing Jody Whatley.
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Reply #5 posted 09/25/05 4:09pm

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Depends on how we interpret successful career, but from the old ones, I´d say:

Andre Cymone
Jill Jones
Taja Sevelle
Jesse Johnson
Maybe Morris Day.


And , on a sidenote, I was surprised that Chaka Khan´s excellent Come 2 My House didn´t become a huge success saleswise. A lot of people liked it back then.
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Reply #6 posted 09/26/05 2:48am

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I was really surprised that Morris Day didn't quite become the "big star" that everyone predicted.In 1984,he got rave reviews for his performance in 'Purple Rain'.The movie offers came pouring in,and many people felt that he could become the next Richard Pryor.It never happened.Sure,he had a few solo hits and a few cameo appearances in a few movie,but he never really reached major superstardom.

I also feel that Sheila E. could have (and should have) become a much bigger pop star.I think she gave up too soon.In 1987,she released the best album of her career,the self-titled album.This album should have been her "Control",her "Off The Wall",her "1999".But instead,she became Prince's drummer and put her own career on hold.Ironically,just a few years earlier,Prince had convinced her to "stop playing behind other people" and do her own thing.Just when she was (potentially) on the verge of superstardom,she went back to being a drummer in someone else's band.Bad move.
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Reply #7 posted 09/26/05 9:21am

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I was really surprised that Morris Day didn't quite become the "big star" that everyone predicted.In 1984,he got rave reviews for his performance in 'Purple Rain'.The movie offers came pouring in,and many people felt that he could become the next Richard Pryor.It never happened.Sure,he had a few solo hits and a few cameo appearances in a few movie,but he never really reached major superstardom.

I also feel that Sheila E. could have (and should have) become a much bigger pop star.I think she gave up too soon.In 1987,she released the best album of her career,the self-titled album.This album should have been her "Control",her "Off The Wall",her "1999".But instead,she became Prince's drummer and put her own career on hold.Ironically,just a few years earlier,Prince had convinced her to "stop playing behind other people" and do her own thing.Just when she was (potentially) on the verge of superstardom,she went back to being a drummer in someone else's band.Bad move.
100% agreed. Though unfortunately I think Morris' personal demons may kept him from taking it to the next level.
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Reply #8 posted 09/26/05 5:11pm

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sitruk7 said:

DavidEye said:

I was really surprised that Morris Day didn't quite become the "big star" that everyone predicted.In 1984,he got rave reviews for his performance in 'Purple Rain'.The movie offers came pouring in,and many people felt that he could become the next Richard Pryor.It never happened.Sure,he had a few solo hits and a few cameo appearances in a few movie,but he never really reached major superstardom.

I also feel that Sheila E. could have (and should have) become a much bigger pop star.I think she gave up too soon.In 1987,she released the best album of her career,the self-titled album.This album should have been her "Control",her "Off The Wall",her "1999".But instead,she became Prince's drummer and put her own career on hold.Ironically,just a few years earlier,Prince had convinced her to "stop playing behind other people" and do her own thing.Just when she was (potentially) on the verge of superstardom,she went back to being a drummer in someone else's band.Bad move.
100% agreed. Though unfortunately I think Morris' personal demons may kept him from taking it to the next level.


I really thought Morris was gonna take off. He was supposedly offered a 3 movie deal after PR. His and Jerome's take on the "Who's on first" from Abbot & Costello was great. I don't know why he never really took off.

Re: Sheila..... she has said in interviews that she preferred to be working as a musician, rather than fronting a band. So for her it was the right move. It's ironic cuz she's such a great solo artist and bandleader!
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Reply #9 posted 09/27/05 6:08am

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GaryMF said:

sitruk7 said:

100% agreed. Though unfortunately I think Morris' personal demons may kept him from taking it to the next level.


I really thought Morris was gonna take off. He was supposedly offered a 3 movie deal after PR. His and Jerome's take on the "Who's on first" from Abbot & Costello was great. I don't know why he never really took off.

Re: Sheila..... she has said in interviews that she preferred to be working as a musician, rather than fronting a band. So for her it was the right move. It's ironic cuz she's such a great solo artist and bandleader!


That's a shame because Sheila was such an exciting solo pop performer.I still enjoy watching her 'Romance 1600 Live' video.She kicks ass!
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Reply #10 posted 09/27/05 7:53am

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DavidEye said:


That's a shame because Sheila was such an exciting solo pop performer.I still enjoy watching her 'Romance 1600 Live' video.She kicks ass!


I totally agree. And if you think that is hot you should check out her solo show when she plays. It's like she took it to a whole new level.

She only does sporadic dates, it seems, since she mainly focuses on her charity now. I was lucky that I was in the Bay Area for work last year and caught her last show at her dad's cub which is now closed.
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Reply #11 posted 09/28/05 8:47pm

Rhastus

Morris and Jesse definetly. They both did well in 85 after leaving the Prince camp, but unfortunatily both made some bad choices in some of the things they
did after that. Come on ford Fairlane, a cameo in Moving and Guaranteed killed his solo career. I liked how Jesse was going more rock with each album and i saw him eventually having more of a rock career, but i guess he got pigonholed in that 80's minneapolis scene. I absolutely loved Bare my naked soul, but who really bought it besides die hard jesse fans. Nobody
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Reply #12 posted 09/29/05 6:13am

DavidEye

Rhastus said:

Morris and Jesse definetly. They both did well in 85 after leaving the Prince camp, but unfortunatily both made some bad choices in some of the things they did after that. Come on ford Fairlane, a cameo in Moving and Guaranteed killed his solo career.



Morris' massive ego is what prevented him from becoming a movie star.I remember reading one of his interviews in the late 80s,several years after 'Purple Rain'.He was complaining that,whenever he got offered a movie role (which was quite often),they wanted him to go down to the studio and read for the part."I felt like I had already proven myself in 'Purple Rain'...I shouldn't have to audition for a role when they already know what I am capable of",he said.

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Reply #13 posted 09/29/05 4:22pm

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Sheila and Morris Day and the original Time if they had stayed together, but if that had happened there'd be no Jam and Lewis, and no one would know Janet Jackson.

Morris nearly got there, he was the star of Purple Rain " Nah, Nah that aint cool enough, The bitch will come to me, I'm the only star in this town". But maybe poor marketing, a cocaine habit and that fact we had Eddie Murphy and Ricahrd Pryor meant there was no more room for a jive ass black dude. Although he still cracks me up, especially when he called Prince a 'long haired faggot' lol
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Reply #14 posted 09/29/05 4:26pm

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DavidEye said:

GaryMF said:



I really thought Morris was gonna take off. He was supposedly offered a 3 movie deal after PR. His and Jerome's take on the "Who's on first" from Abbot & Costello was great. I don't know why he never really took off.

Re: Sheila..... she has said in interviews that she preferred to be working as a musician, rather than fronting a band. So for her it was the right move. It's ironic cuz she's such a great solo artist and bandleader!


That's a shame because Sheila was such an exciting solo pop performer.I still enjoy watching her 'Romance 1600 Live' video.She kicks ass!

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Reply #15 posted 09/29/05 11:11pm

Voidra

I thought for sure I'd see 'Uptown Dames' on here with all the ass kissing that thread is getting.
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Reply #16 posted 09/30/05 4:10am

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Actually I'm pretty surprised Carmen Electra didn't take off. She was beautiful, a great dancer and the music really fit for that time. shrug
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Reply #17 posted 09/30/05 4:11am

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KoolEaze said:

Depends on how we interpret successful career, but from the old ones, I´d say:

Andre Cymone
Jill Jones
Taja Sevelle
Jesse Johnson
Maybe Morris Day.


And , on a sidenote, I was surprised that Chaka Khan´s excellent Come 2 My House didn´t become a huge success saleswise. A lot of people liked it back then.


OMG I LOVE Come 2 my house. It really is a GREAT album! worship
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Reply #18 posted 09/30/05 4:13am

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DavidEye said:

I was really surprised that Morris Day didn't quite become the "big star" that everyone predicted.In 1984,he got rave reviews for his performance in 'Purple Rain'.The movie offers came pouring in,and many people felt that he could become the next Richard Pryor.It never happened.Sure,he had a few solo hits and a few cameo appearances in a few movie,but he never really reached major superstardom.

I also feel that Sheila E. could have (and should have) become a much bigger pop star.I think she gave up too soon.In 1987,she released the best album of her career,the self-titled album.This album should have been her "Control",her "Off The Wall",her "1999".But instead,she became Prince's drummer and put her own career on hold.Ironically,just a few years earlier,Prince had convinced her to "stop playing behind other people" and do her own thing.Just when she was (potentially) on the verge of superstardom,she went back to being a drummer in someone else's band.Bad move.


Really? Actually I think Morris Day and Sheila E. had pretty sucessful careers in the 80s. At least in my eyes. Vanity was pretty big too for a while. I guess now they are not that famous but back then alot of people knew who they were.
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Reply #19 posted 09/30/05 5:30am

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Krystal666 said:

Actually I'm pretty surprised Carmen Electra didn't take off. She was beautiful, a great dancer and the music really fit for that time. shrug



Her album may have flopped,but she became a big star after she left the Prince camp.Most of his female proteges fade away when he no longer works with them,but Carmen Elektra is the exception to this rule.
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Reply #20 posted 09/30/05 5:33am

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DavidEye said:

Krystal666 said:

Actually I'm pretty surprised Carmen Electra didn't take off. She was beautiful, a great dancer and the music really fit for that time. shrug



Her album may have flopped,but she became a big star after she left the Prince camp.Most of his female proteges fade away when he no longer works with them,but Carmen Elektra is the exception to this rule.


Oh well yeah I know but I was suprised that her album didn't make her a star...that is what I ment.
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Reply #21 posted 09/30/05 5:33am

DavidEye

Krystal666 said:

DavidEye said:

I was really surprised that Morris Day didn't quite become the "big star" that everyone predicted.In 1984,he got rave reviews for his performance in 'Purple Rain'.The movie offers came pouring in,and many people felt that he could become the next Richard Pryor.It never happened.Sure,he had a few solo hits and a few cameo appearances in a few movie,but he never really reached major superstardom.

I also feel that Sheila E. could have (and should have) become a much bigger pop star.I think she gave up too soon.In 1987,she released the best album of her career,the self-titled album.This album should have been her "Control",her "Off The Wall",her "1999".But instead,she became Prince's drummer and put her own career on hold.Ironically,just a few years earlier,Prince had convinced her to "stop playing behind other people" and do her own thing.Just when she was (potentially) on the verge of superstardom,she went back to being a drummer in someone else's band.Bad move.


Really? Actually I think Morris Day and Sheila E. had pretty sucessful careers in the 80s. At least in my eyes. Vanity was pretty big too for a while. I guess now they are not that famous but back then alot of people knew who they were.



Yeah,they had a few successful years in the mid-80s,in the wake of 'Purple Rain' and the Prince hype.But their careers didn't really take off the way I expected.Neither of Vanity's two solo albums sold well.
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Reply #22 posted 09/30/05 5:35am

DavidEye

Krystal666 said:

DavidEye said:




Her album may have flopped,but she became a big star after she left the Prince camp.Most of his female proteges fade away when he no longer works with them,but Carmen Elektra is the exception to this rule.


Oh well yeah I know but I was suprised that her album didn't make her a star...that is what I ment.



You're surprised by that? Come on,her album is an embarassment lol

The only decent song is "Fantasia Erotica".
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Reply #23 posted 10/02/05 1:15pm

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DavidEye said:

Krystal666 said:



Oh well yeah I know but I was suprised that her album didn't make her a star...that is what I ment.



You're surprised by that? Come on,her album is an embarassment lol

The only decent song is "Fantasia Erotica".


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Reply #24 posted 10/06/05 1:10pm

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rosie gaines
but then closer than close was a crap song.
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Reply #25 posted 10/07/05 5:47am

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sitruk7 said:

4nowneway said:

Andre, since his first album, I thought he would be putting them out year after year just like P

You'd have thought so. I'm not really sure what went wrong. At least he had a good amount of success with producing Jody Whatley.



Andre has often complained that his record label didn't want him to grow and develop into a unique artist.They wanted him to sound like Prince and to ride the whole "Minneapolis Sound" connection,something he wasn't interested in doing.I think that's why he eventually gave up making solo records.He was clearly frustrated.
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Reply #26 posted 10/07/05 6:27am

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Bonnie tyler
Kim wilde
grace jones
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and a guy with all his instruments on him and a dove on his shoulder. Who remembers him ?
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Reply #27 posted 10/07/05 9:34am

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DavidEye said:

sitruk7 said:


You'd have thought so. I'm not really sure what went wrong. At least he had a good amount of success with producing Jody Whatley.



Andre has often complained that his record label didn't want him to grow and develop into a unique artist.They wanted him to sound like Prince and to ride the whole "Minneapolis Sound" connection,something he wasn't interested in doing.I think that's why he eventually gave up making solo records.He was clearly frustrated.


Well Jody Watley's stuff pretty much sounded like that.
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Reply #28 posted 10/07/05 10:25am

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DavidEye said:

I was really surprised that Morris Day didn't quite become the "big star" that everyone predicted.In 1984,he got rave reviews for his performance in 'Purple Rain'.The movie offers came pouring in,and many people felt that he could become the next Richard Pryor.It never happened.Sure,he had a few solo hits and a few cameo appearances in a few movie,but he never really reached major superstardom.

I also feel that Sheila E. could have (and should have) become a much bigger pop star.I think she gave up too soon.In 1987,she released the best album of her career,the self-titled album.This album should have been her "Control",her "Off The Wall",her "1999".But instead,she became Prince's drummer and put her own career on hold.Ironically,just a few years earlier,Prince had convinced her to "stop playing behind other people" and do her own thing.Just when she was (potentially) on the verge of superstardom,she went back to being a drummer in someone else's band.Bad move.

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cammille said:

rosie gaines
but then closer than close was a crap song.



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