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PrintableI will add this bit - not feeling it is my place to talk a lot about someone that I have not seen in over 15 years.
"first encounter" Robin and I were 15 or 16, we had been talking for a short time. She did not seem to have a good home life but I really can't comment on that. I was never invited to her mothers apartment - which was on a rougher part of the south side of Chicago. She was a pretty girl but a late bloomer (not so well endowed as now). she was kind of mousy but very pretty. we made plans to spend sometime together New years eve when my parents were going to go out. Being a guy I got all the regular question from my parents like when, where and who was picking here up. After my parents left Robin asked could she stay the night, she did not want to go home and there was not one there anyway. Being a teenage boy all I could think of was having a girl in my bed all night long. "YES","you can stay", "I will hide you when my patents get home". We spent time talking and touching, we went to my room. Laying in my bed half naked - her with my pajama top on and me with just the bottoms - she was so pretty with her long curly hair. Still getting to know each other by touching and kissing - it was almost time - THEN - my parents came home early and made a bee line for my room. No time to hide - there we were half dress, in my bed and all worked up (crap)  . Needless to say my parents weren't happy (except the smirk on my dads face). For the next hour or so there were words - lot of words and phone calls with no answer to Robin's mother. Then my mom drove her home, no one was there, so she brought her back (cool) . Well after they got back there were more word and then - the separation. "Robin is to sleep in the living room and you in your room", "if we hear you try and sneak past our room your girlfriend will see you in pain" (OK). I'm my dreams that night she slept in my arms that night.
In the morning my mother made breakfast and there was another small talking to and then we took her home. Robin's phone was disconnected there after and I did not see her again for a few years - I think I was 21 and she was working at a gas station on 55th. We never really got a chance at a relationship. I have always cared for her and I have been very happy every time I see her. this is my offering - please help me find her if possible - you never get a second chance what could have been - but if you really care about someone your feelings for each other never really die. | |
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wehawk32 said: I will add this bit - not feeling it is my place to talk a lot about someone that I have not seen in over 15 years.
"first encounter" Robin and I were 15 or 16, we had been talking for a short time. She did not seem to have a good home life but I really can't comment on that. I was never invited to her mothers apartment - which was on a rougher part of the south side of Chicago. She was a pretty girl but a late bloomer (not so well endowed as now). she was kind of mousy but very pretty. we made plans to spend sometime together New years eve when my parents were going to go out. Being a guy I got all the regular question from my parents like when, where and who was picking here up. After my parents left Robin asked could she stay the night, she did not want to go home and there was not one there anyway. Being a teenage boy all I could think of was having a girl in my bed all night long. "YES","you can stay", "I will hide you when my patents get home". We spent time talking and touching, we went to my room. Laying in my bed half naked - her with my pajama top on and me with just the bottoms - she was so pretty with her long curly hair. Still getting to know each other by touching and kissing - it was almost time - THEN - my parents came home early and made a bee line for my room. No time to hide - there we were half dress, in my bed and all worked up (crap) . Needless to say my parents weren't happy (except the smirk on my dads face). For the next hour or so there were words - lot of words and phone calls with no answer to Robin's mother. Then my mom drove her home, no one was there, so she brought her back (cool). Well after they got back there were more word and then - the separation. "Robin is to sleep in the living room and you in your room", "if we hear you try and sneak past our room your girlfriend will see you in pain" (OK). I'm my dreams that night she slept in my arms that night.
In the morning my mother made breakfast and there was another small talking to and then we took her home. Robin's phone was disconnected there after and I did not see her again for a few years - I think I was 21 and she was working at a gas station on 55th. We never really got a chance at a relationship. I have always cared for her and I have been very happy every time I see her. this is my offering - please help me find her if possible - you never get a second chance what could have been - but if you really care about someone your feelings for each other never really die. Awwwww - how cute!!!!! Poor Robin - she felt like she had no family. She was MOUSY? I can't imagine that. You mean shy?  What do you mean by mousy?
Wehawk, I sent you another email. Y'all, I was just looking through my background check notes for Robin and found out that Mayte lived in the same apartment building that Robin did. Maybe that is the place where Prince stores his main girlfriends. [Edited 9/30/05 8:15am] The blessings and curses of being beautiful - a documentary
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and didn't mani do the same? i seem to remember reading about some issue where she owed an apartment complex (very close to paisley park) back rent. hmmm, interesting, if she took up camp in that same apartment complex, mayte had to know something was soon to come 
artpal said: wehawk32 said: I will add this bit - not feeling it is my place to talk a lot about someone that I have not seen in over 15 years.
"first encounter" Robin and I were 15 or 16, we had been talking for a short time. She did not seem to have a good home life but I really can't comment on that. I was never invited to her mothers apartment - which was on a rougher part of the south side of Chicago. She was a pretty girl but a late bloomer (not so well endowed as now). she was kind of mousy but very pretty. we made plans to spend sometime together New years eve when my parents were going to go out. Being a guy I got all the regular question from my parents like when, where and who was picking here up. After my parents left Robin asked could she stay the night, she did not want to go home and there was not one there anyway. Being a teenage boy all I could think of was having a girl in my bed all night long. "YES","you can stay", "I will hide you when my patents get home". We spent time talking and touching, we went to my room. Laying in my bed half naked - her with my pajama top on and me with just the bottoms - she was so pretty with her long curly hair. Still getting to know each other by touching and kissing - it was almost time - THEN - my parents came home early and made a bee line for my room. No time to hide - there we were half dress, in my bed and all worked up (crap) . Needless to say my parents weren't happy (except the smirk on my dads face). For the next hour or so there were words - lot of words and phone calls with no answer to Robin's mother. Then my mom drove her home, no one was there, so she brought her back (cool). Well after they got back there were more word and then - the separation. "Robin is to sleep in the living room and you in your room", "if we hear you try and sneak past our room your girlfriend will see you in pain" (OK). I'm my dreams that night she slept in my arms that night.
In the morning my mother made breakfast and there was another small talking to and then we took her home. Robin's phone was disconnected there after and I did not see her again for a few years - I think I was 21 and she was working at a gas station on 55th. We never really got a chance at a relationship. I have always cared for her and I have been very happy every time I see her. this is my offering - please help me find her if possible - you never get a second chance what could have been - but if you really care about someone your feelings for each other never really die. Awwwww - how cute!!!!! Poor Robin - she felt like she had no family. She was MOUSY? I can't imagine that. You mean shy? What do you mean by mousy?
Wehawk, I sent you another email. Y'all, I was just looking through my background check notes for Robin and found out that Mayte lived in the same apartment building that Robin did. Maybe that is the place where Prince stores his main girlfriends.
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artpal said: wehawk32 said: I will add this bit - not feeling it is my place to talk a lot about someone that I have not seen in over 15 years.
"first encounter" Robin and I were 15 or 16, we had been talking for a short time. She did not seem to have a good home life but I really can't comment on that. I was never invited to her mothers apartment - which was on a rougher part of the south side of Chicago. She was a pretty girl but a late bloomer (not so well endowed as now). she was kind of mousy but very pretty. we made plans to spend sometime together New years eve when my parents were going to go out. Being a guy I got all the regular question from my parents like when, where and who was picking here up. After my parents left Robin asked could she stay the night, she did not want to go home and there was not one there anyway. Being a teenage boy all I could think of was having a girl in my bed all night long. "YES","you can stay", "I will hide you when my patents get home". We spent time talking and touching, we went to my room. Laying in my bed half naked - her with my pajama top on and me with just the bottoms - she was so pretty with her long curly hair. Still getting to know each other by touching and kissing - it was almost time - THEN - my parents came home early and made a bee line for my room. No time to hide - there we were half dress, in my bed and all worked up (crap) . Needless to say my parents weren't happy (except the smirk on my dads face). For the next hour or so there were words - lot of words and phone calls with no answer to Robin's mother. Then my mom drove her home, no one was there, so she brought her back (cool). Well after they got back there were more word and then - the separation. "Robin is to sleep in the living room and you in your room", "if we hear you try and sneak past our room your girlfriend will see you in pain" (OK). I'm my dreams that night she slept in my arms that night.
In the morning my mother made breakfast and there was another small talking to and then we took her home. Robin's phone was disconnected there after and I did not see her again for a few years - I think I was 21 and she was working at a gas station on 55th. We never really got a chance at a relationship. I have always cared for her and I have been very happy every time I see her. this is my offering - please help me find her if possible - you never get a second chance what could have been - but if you really care about someone your feelings for each other never really die. Awwwww - how cute!!!!! Poor Robin - she felt like she had no family. She was MOUSY? I can't imagine that. You mean shy? What do you mean by mousy?
Wehawk, I sent you another email. Y'all, I was just looking through my background check notes for Robin and found out that Mayte lived in the same apartment building that Robin did. Maybe that is the place where Prince stores his main girlfriends.
[Edited 9/30/05 8:15am] Really intersting! Maybe I'll be staying there someday artpal. Hee hee. So Prince would pay all their bills, food, what about shopping money? Did he give Robin money to go shopping too? | |
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wehawk32 said: I will add this bit - not feeling it is my place to talk a lot about someone that I have not seen in over 15 years.
"first encounter" Robin and I were 15 or 16, we had been talking for a short time. She did not seem to have a good home life but I really can't comment on that. I was never invited to her mothers apartment - which was on a rougher part of the south side of Chicago. She was a pretty girl but a late bloomer (not so well endowed as now). she was kind of mousy but very pretty. we made plans to spend sometime together New years eve when my parents were going to go out. Being a guy I got all the regular question from my parents like when, where and who was picking here up. After my parents left Robin asked could she stay the night, she did not want to go home and there was not one there anyway. Being a teenage boy all I could think of was having a girl in my bed all night long. "YES","you can stay", "I will hide you when my patents get home". We spent time talking and touching, we went to my room. Laying in my bed half naked - her with my pajama top on and me with just the bottoms - she was so pretty with her long curly hair. Still getting to know each other by touching and kissing - it was almost time - THEN - my parents came home early and made a bee line for my room. No time to hide - there we were half dress, in my bed and all worked up (crap) . Needless to say my parents weren't happy (except the smirk on my dads face). For the next hour or so there were words - lot of words and phone calls with no answer to Robin's mother. Then my mom drove her home, no one was there, so she brought her back (cool). Well after they got back there were more word and then - the separation. "Robin is to sleep in the living room and you in your room", "if we hear you try and sneak past our room your girlfriend will see you in pain" (OK). I'm my dreams that night she slept in my arms that night.
In the morning my mother made breakfast and there was another small talking to and then we took her home. Robin's phone was disconnected there after and I did not see her again for a few years - I think I was 21 and she was working at a gas station on 55th. We never really got a chance at a relationship. I have always cared for her and I have been very happy every time I see her. this is my offering - please help me find her if possible - you never get a second chance what could have been - but if you really care about someone your feelings for each other never really die. Wow that is an interesting story! Are you sure Robin won't be upset with you posting that? Most likely no from what I understaned of her she sounds like someone who could care less what others think of her sex drive. Anyways what did you think when you first saw Robin in Graffiti Bridge? [Edited 9/30/05 9:27am] | |
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Wow that is an interesting story! Are you sure Robin won't be upset with you posting that? Most likely no from what I understaned of her she sounds like someone who could care less what others think of her sex drive. Anyways what did you think when you first saw Robin in Graffiti Bridge?
[Edited 9/30/05 9:27am] [/quote] i never saw Graffiti bridge . I saw robin on soul train, in house party and in the chicago jet mag all of which alway made me smile. I thought about renting the movie but i never have - yes i do miss her and i don't think she would mind me writing that little bit her. It is tastful and i would never say anything bad about her - she tried very hard to get where ever she ended up - i am proud i know her.. | |
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Athena said: This thread has me laughing hard! especially when I saw the validation pictures you posted. Artpal, Bassdame - good for you for saying it like it is on this thread and not being intimidated by the haters (we all know P can't tolerate a strong woman, so there is definitely some hatin' going down for this thread).
btw - genius idea to come here for publicity. How many people tossed aside along the path of P after they served their purpose? What goes around comes around. I wish you girls much success....looks like that's where your headed. Thanks, Athena! The blessings and curses of being beautiful - a documentary
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Krystal666 said: Oh artpal don't put yourself down like that!
 I beautiful woman is a beautiful woman and YOU are beautiful. I don't know if MOST men prefer curvy women compared to waifish girls but I do know that beauty comes in all shapes and sizes. I know that sounds like some polliticaly correct bullshit but in my mind I honestly belive it. I think Kim Basinger, Tyra Banks, Cindy Crawford, Janice Dickenson, Carmen Electra, Tia Cararie are all different looking and different body shapes but they are all equaly beautiful to me! You are so right Krystal! Please women, stop judging yourselves and other women by the size of their bodies! Beauty does come in ALL sizes. Skinny, fat, tall, short, big boobs, little boobs, no boobs. We are more than body parts. Learn to love and except yourself and others regardless of size!I AM BEATLOAF
www.myspace.com/teriteriboberi www.stickam.com/profile/Beatloaf www.myspace.com/americasfunnyman www.stephenking.com www.tomgreen.com I'm my own favorite orger and that trumps any elitist list you guys can come up with. | |
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Terilicious said: Krystal666 said: Oh artpal don't put yourself down like that!
I beautiful woman is a beautiful woman and YOU are beautiful. I don't know if MOST men prefer curvy women compared to waifish girls but I do know that beauty comes in all shapes and sizes. I know that sounds like some polliticaly correct bullshit but in my mind I honestly belive it. I think Kim Basinger, Tyra Banks, Cindy Crawford, Janice Dickenson, Carmen Electra, Tia Cararie are all different looking and different body shapes but they are all equaly beautiful to me! You are so right Krystal! Please women, stop judging yourselves and other women by the size of their bodies! Beauty does come in ALL sizes. Skinny, fat, tall, short, big boobs, little boobs, no boobs. We are more than body parts. Learn to love and except yourself and others regardless of size! You're right. We're ALL beautiful!The blessings and curses of being beautiful - a documentary
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wehawk32 said: i never saw Graffiti bridge
. I saw robin on soul train, in house party and in the chicago jet mag all of which alway made me smile. I thought about renting the movie but i never have - yes i do miss her and i don't think she would mind me writing that little bit her. It is tastful and i would never say anything bad about her - she tried very hard to get where ever she ended up - i am proud i know her..Wehawk32, do you have any pictures of Robin we can see?  [Edited 10/2/05 19:49pm] The blessings and curses of being beautiful - a documentary
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more stories!!! pretty please, with sugar on top! | |
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Krystal666 said: Really intersting! Maybe I'll be staying there someday artpal. Hee hee. So Prince would pay all their bills, food, what about shopping money? Did he give Robin money to go shopping too? Hmm... Robin didn't have a regular job when we were there, so I suppose Prince was paying her rent. She also had other casual boyfriends that tended to buy her things etc. She was so proud of stuff like that. I must admit we were pretty naughty when it came to our power over boys. One night we all sat around the answering machine listening to all the messages from men to various members of the Dames. We heard things like, "why haven't you called me?" or "Where are you?" or "I sure would like to get together..." We were laughing cuz the messages one after another added up to a collection of desperate men. Sorry guys - we were just being naughty. I guess men play women and well - women play men.
[Edited 10/3/05 7:48am] [Edited 10/3/05 7:49am] The blessings and curses of being beautiful - a documentary
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artpal said: Krystal666 said: Really intersting! Maybe I'll be staying there someday artpal. Hee hee. So Prince would pay all their bills, food, what about shopping money? Did he give Robin money to go shopping too? Hmm... Robin didn't have a regular job when we were there, so I suppose Prince was paying her rent. She also had other casual boyfriends that tended to buy her things etc. She was so proud of stuff like that. I must admit we were pretty naughty when it came to our power over boys. One night we all sat around the answering machine listening to all the messages from men to various members of the Dames. We heard things like, "why haven't you called me?" or "Where are you?" or "I sure would like to get together..." We were laughing cuz the messages one after another added up to a collection of desperate men. Sorry guys - we were just being naughty. I guess men play women and well - women play men.
[Edited 10/3/05 7:48am] [Edited 10/3/05 7:49am] That's funny. The only problem is what if you play someone special? How do you determine who you want to play with and who you could really fall in love with? If you play someone who you could really fall in love with they could find out and feel angry. I'm not passing judgement on you artpal I just wonder how you single girls seperate that.
I really don't understand why Robin would be proud of men giving her things. I guess she had a rough past though so materialistc things probably of great importance to her. Wasn't Prince jelouse of her other boyfriends? | |
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Krystal666 said: artpal said: Hmm... Robin didn't have a regular job when we were there, so I suppose Prince was paying her rent. She also had other casual boyfriends that tended to buy her things etc. She was so proud of stuff like that. I must admit we were pretty naughty when it came to our power over boys. One night we all sat around the answering machine listening to all the messages from men to various members of the Dames. We heard things like, "why haven't you called me?" or "Where are you?" or "I sure would like to get together..." We were laughing cuz the messages one after another added up to a collection of desperate men. Sorry guys - we were just being naughty. I guess men play women and well - women play men.
[Edited 10/3/05 7:48am] [Edited 10/3/05 7:49am] That's funny. The only problem is what if you play someone special? How do you determine who you want to play with and who you could really fall in love with? If you play someone who you could really fall in love with they could find out and feel angry. I'm not passing judgement on you artpal I just wonder how you single girls seperate that.
I really don't understand why Robin would be proud of men giving her things. I guess she had a rough past though so materialistc things probably of great importance to her. Wasn't Prince jelouse of her other boyfriends? Well, the only real "player" in the group was Robin. The calls for other Dames were legit boyfriends or just male friends. These calls sounded normal by themselves. But in the context of all the other calls, it sounded funny - like a collection of males - one after another after another after another. I think what I consider naughty on our part was laughing at the answering machine. Aside from Robin, it was all innocent.
So I can't answer your question about being a player - I myself can't imagine how anyone can have the energy to juggle people like that. I would imagine Prince would have been jealous - I don't know if he knew or not. The closest I got to a date was taking a long car ride with one of the Paisley Park engineers. His name was Paul I think. He asked me out and I said I had a boyfriend. He asked if we could just be friends and could he just take me for a ride around town. I was stressed out and needed a break and I said yes as long as he understood we'd just be friends. It turned out to be cool like that. I learned from him some insider Paisley Park stuff. The most significant secret I learned was that nobody took Prince's protege acts seriously. They were all a joke to them. He liked me however because I seemed like a serious musician who was all about the music rather than just shaking my booty around. I think Robin liked the attention she got when guys bought her things. It made her feel special. I interviewed an exotic dancer in my documentary who enjoys that too. It's like, "See how special I am? Someone bought me this mink stole! That's how much they liked me."  [Edited 10/3/05 11:11am] The blessings and curses of being beautiful - a documentary
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artpal said: Krystal666 said: That's funny. The only problem is what if you play someone special? How do you determine who you want to play with and who you could really fall in love with? If you play someone who you could really fall in love with they could find out and feel angry. I'm not passing judgement on you artpal I just wonder how you single girls seperate that.
I really don't understand why Robin would be proud of men giving her things. I guess she had a rough past though so materialistc things probably of great importance to her. Wasn't Prince jelouse of her other boyfriends? Well, the only real "player" in the group was Robin. The calls for other Dames were legit boyfriends or just male friends. These calls sounded normal by themselves. But in the context of all the other calls, it sounded funny - like a collection of males - one after another after another after another. I think what I consider naughty on our part was laughing at the answering machine. Aside from Robin, it was all innocent.
So I can't answer your question about being a player - I myself can't imagine how anyone can have the energy to juggle people like that. I would imagine Prince would have been jealous - I don't know if he knew or not. The closest I got to a date was taking a long car ride with one of the Paisley Park engineers. His name was Paul I think. He asked me out and I said I had a boyfriend. He asked if we could just be friends and could he just take me for a ride around town. I was stressed out and needed a break and I said yes as long as he understood we'd just be friends. It turned out to be cool like that. I learned from him some insider Paisley Park stuff. The most significant secret I learned was that nobody took Prince's protege acts seriously. They were all a joke to them. He liked me however because I seemed like a serious musician who was all about the music rather than just shaking my booty around. I think Robin liked the attention she got when guys bought her things. It made her feel special. I interviewed an exotic dancer in my documentary who enjoys that too. It's like, "See how special I am? Someone bought me this mink stole! That's how much they liked me."
[Edited 10/3/05 11:11am] Thanks Liza! So you thought the "naughty" bit was laughing at all the guys huh? You are SUCH a Catholic like me! I'd probably be like "Jesus please forgive me for making fun of all those men behind their backs!"
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Hey artpal or bassdame I have a question...it's kinda bizarre but hey, you know I'm full of those right? Hee hee. Ok did you ever witness Robin or one of Prince's girlfriends mention another man was good looking in Prince's presemce? How did he react? How do you think he would react?
Ok sorry just wanted to ask that. Feel free to plug your movie now artpal.
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Krystal666 said: artpal said: Hmm... Robin didn't have a regular job when we were there, so I suppose Prince was paying her rent. She also had other casual boyfriends that tended to buy her things etc. She was so proud of stuff like that. I must admit we were pretty naughty when it came to our power over boys. One night we all sat around the answering machine listening to all the messages from men to various members of the Dames. We heard things like, "why haven't you called me?" or "Where are you?" or "I sure would like to get together..." We were laughing cuz the messages one after another added up to a collection of desperate men. Sorry guys - we were just being naughty. I guess men play women and well - women play men.
[Edited 10/3/05 7:48am] [Edited 10/3/05 7:49am] That's funny. The only problem is what if you play someone special? How do you determine who you want to play with and who you could really fall in love with? If you play someone who you could really fall in love with they could find out and feel angry. I'm not passing judgement on you artpal I just wonder how you single girls seperate that.
I really don't understand why Robin would be proud of men giving her things. I guess she had a rough past though so materialistc things probably of great importance to her. Wasn't Prince jelouse of her other boyfriends? robin was an independent woman..the thing is, if she were a man she would be "the man", pimp or be pimped.the life we had was not real life, the rules were different. i in some strange way admired robin. think of all the women who had men around them who were taking everything from them and they got nothing. she was simply working her plan and using what she had to do so. it wasn't necessarily about being materialistic it was about survival for the very reason you stated, nobody was giving her anything, she did what she had to do. but look at the level she did it on. so many women would've gladly been where she was without rent, money anything. sometimes rough backgrounds make you much hungrier than someone who has always had access to things. a lot of successful people come from these backgrounds. when you're hungry ya gotta eat! prince was a double standard in terms of jealousy and robin got it right..he didn't own her he was in line like everybody else.!!! i hope this doesn't sound to harsh. but i was working temp jobs and she was at the gym!! later | |
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Krystal666 said: Hey artpal or bassdame I have a question...it's kinda bizarre but hey, you know I'm full of those right? Hee hee. Ok did you ever witness Robin or one of Prince's girlfriends mention another man was good looking in Prince's presemce? How did he react? How do you think he would react?
Ok sorry just wanted to ask that. Feel free to plug your movie now artpal.
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[Edited 10/3/05 14:07pm] if he really liked you he would be jealous but i also think that when he first sees someone helikes he rather enjoys the process of "taking" her from her man. it would be a challenge and certainly would make life more interesting for him. i think the sad thing is, for him it's a game, but not for the girl. robin understood the process and tried to keep her options open and not get to caught up, it's called protecting yourself, remember she knew that the possiblity of price cutting her loose was there and she would be back on her own in terms of survival. here's something most people don't know..there was someone very special in her life and he along with p. took care of her. don't aks who.. that i will never tell, but she did love this person. she also loved prince and was devastated when he moved on. i guess there's always the hope that maybe you're the one. later | |
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bassdame said: Krystal666 said: That's funny. The only problem is what if you play someone special? How do you determine who you want to play with and who you could really fall in love with? If you play someone who you could really fall in love with they could find out and feel angry. I'm not passing judgement on you artpal I just wonder how you single girls seperate that.
I really don't understand why Robin would be proud of men giving her things. I guess she had a rough past though so materialistc things probably of great importance to her. Wasn't Prince jelouse of her other boyfriends? robin was an independent woman..the thing is, if she were a man she would be "the man", pimp or be pimped.the life we had was not real life, the rules were different. i in some strange way admired robin. think of all the women who had men around them who were taking everything from them and they got nothing. she was simply working her plan and using what she had to do so. it wasn't necessarily about being materialistic it was about survival for the very reason you stated, nobody was giving her anything, she did what she had to do. but look at the level she did it on. so many women would've gladly been where she was without rent, money anything. sometimes rough backgrounds make you much hungrier than someone who has always had access to things. a lot of successful people come from these backgrounds. when you're hungry ya gotta eat! prince was a double standard in terms of jealousy and robin got it right..he didn't own her he was in line like everybody else.!!! i hope this doesn't sound to harsh. but i was working temp jobs and she was at the gym!! later Wow, when you put it like that her whole being was pretty feminist! I actually really respect that. She was just using her assets and talents to survive and ofcourse that is what we all have to do. I'm sure many men, including Prince, considered taking care of her finnacialy a small price to pay for her company and they probably enjoyed giving her things anyway. And like you said if Prince were paying any of our female orgers rent, food, ect...NONE of us would be complaining. I know I wouldn't! 
As for what you said about Prince not owning Robin but he was in line...I LOVE that! Thanks for explaining bassdame....sometimes people don't understand people's motives right away but when you look deeper it all makes perfect sense. | |
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bassdame said: Krystal666 said: Hey artpal or bassdame I have a question...it's kinda bizarre but hey, you know I'm full of those right? Hee hee. Ok did you ever witness Robin or one of Prince's girlfriends mention another man was good looking in Prince's presemce? How did he react? How do you think he would react?
Ok sorry just wanted to ask that. Feel free to plug your movie now artpal.
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[Edited 10/3/05 14:07pm] if he really liked you he would be jealous but i also think that when he first sees someone helikes he rather enjoys the process of "taking" her from her man. it would be a challenge and certainly would make life more interesting for him. i think the sad thing is, for him it's a game, but not for the girl. robin understood the process and tried to keep her options open and not get to caught up, it's called protecting yourself, remember she knew that the possiblity of price cutting her loose was there and she would be back on her own in terms of survival. here's something most people don't know..there was someone very special in her life and he along with p. took care of her. don't aks who.. that i will never tell, but she did love this person. she also loved prince and was devastated when he moved on. i guess there's always the hope that maybe you're the one. later Just like Robin I became a die hard Prince fan when I was thirteen and dreamed of meeting him just once!. Her admiration for him I can COMPLETLY relate to! | |
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bassdame said: Krystal666 said: Hey artpal or bassdame I have a question...it's kinda bizarre but hey, you know I'm full of those right? Hee hee. Ok did you ever witness Robin or one of Prince's girlfriends mention another man was good looking in Prince's presemce? How did he react? How do you think he would react?
Ok sorry just wanted to ask that. Feel free to plug your movie now artpal.
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[Edited 10/3/05 14:07pm] if he really liked you he would be jealous but i also think that when he first sees someone helikes he rather enjoys the process of "taking" her from her man. it would be a challenge and certainly would make life more interesting for him. i think the sad thing is, for him it's a game, but not for the girl. robin understood the process and tried to keep her options open and not get to caught up, it's called protecting yourself, remember she knew that the possiblity of price cutting her loose was there and she would be back on her own in terms of survival. here's something most people don't know..there was someone very special in her life and he along with p. took care of her. don't aks who.. that i will never tell, but she did love this person. she also loved prince and was devastated when he moved on. i guess there's always the hope that maybe you're the one. later wow Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
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Moonwalkbjrain said: bassdame said: if he really liked you he would be jealous but i also think that when he first sees someone helikes he rather enjoys the process of "taking" her from her man. it would be a challenge and certainly would make life more interesting for him. i think the sad thing is, for him it's a game, but not for the girl. robin understood the process and tried to keep her options open and not get to caught up, it's called protecting yourself, remember she knew that the possiblity of price cutting her loose was there and she would be back on her own in terms of survival. here's something most people don't know..there was someone very special in her life and he along with p. took care of her. don't aks who.. that i will never tell, but she did love this person. she also loved prince and was devastated when he moved on. i guess there's always the hope that maybe you're the one. later wow Robin Power is the shit! | |
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artpal said: Krystal666 said: That's funny. The only problem is what if you play someone special? How do you determine who you want to play with and who you could really fall in love with? If you play someone who you could really fall in love with they could find out and feel angry. I'm not passing judgement on you artpal I just wonder how you single girls seperate that.
I really don't understand why Robin would be proud of men giving her things. I guess she had a rough past though so materialistc things probably of great importance to her. Wasn't Prince jelouse of her other boyfriends? Well, the only real "player" in the group was Robin. The calls for other Dames were legit boyfriends or just male friends. These calls sounded normal by themselves. But in the context of all the other calls, it sounded funny - like a collection of males - one after another after another after another. I think what I consider naughty on our part was laughing at the answering machine. Aside from Robin, it was all innocent.
So I can't answer your question about being a player - I myself can't imagine how anyone can have the energy to juggle people like that. I would imagine Prince would have been jealous - I don't know if he knew or not. The closest I got to a date was taking a long car ride with one of the Paisley Park engineers. His name was Paul I think. He asked me out and I said I had a boyfriend. He asked if we could just be friends and could he just take me for a ride around town. I was stressed out and needed a break and I said yes as long as he understood we'd just be friends. It turned out to be cool like that. I learned from him some insider Paisley Park stuff. The most significant secret I learned was that nobody took Prince's protege acts seriously. They were all a joke to them. He liked me however because I seemed like a serious musician who was all about the music rather than just shaking my booty around. I think Robin liked the attention she got when guys bought her things. It made her feel special. I interviewed an exotic dancer in my documentary who enjoys that too. It's like, "See how special I am? Someone bought me this mink stole! That's how much they liked me."
[Edited 10/3/05 11:11am] just a thought..it could be that the man assesed you and thought that was your value. to have your attention required a fur coat. not special but available if the price was right. personally nobody had enough money to get my attention cause material things and money wasn't what i was looking for. don't get me wrong there is a saying that if money doesn't buy you happiness then you don't know where to shop!! but i found out that i can't enjoy things that don't belong to me. it just drives me even more to get it for myself. to you younger women who are still "looking", remember never give up your power. later | |
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bassdame said: artpal said: Well, the only real "player" in the group was Robin. The calls for other Dames were legit boyfriends or just male friends. These calls sounded normal by themselves. But in the context of all the other calls, it sounded funny - like a collection of males - one after another after another after another. I think what I consider naughty on our part was laughing at the answering machine. Aside from Robin, it was all innocent.
So I can't answer your question about being a player - I myself can't imagine how anyone can have the energy to juggle people like that. I would imagine Prince would have been jealous - I don't know if he knew or not. The closest I got to a date was taking a long car ride with one of the Paisley Park engineers. His name was Paul I think. He asked me out and I said I had a boyfriend. He asked if we could just be friends and could he just take me for a ride around town. I was stressed out and needed a break and I said yes as long as he understood we'd just be friends. It turned out to be cool like that. I learned from him some insider Paisley Park stuff. The most significant secret I learned was that nobody took Prince's protege acts seriously. They were all a joke to them. He liked me however because I seemed like a serious musician who was all about the music rather than just shaking my booty around. I think Robin liked the attention she got when guys bought her things. It made her feel special. I interviewed an exotic dancer in my documentary who enjoys that too. It's like, "See how special I am? Someone bought me this mink stole! That's how much they liked me."
[Edited 10/3/05 11:11am] just a thought..it could be that the man assesed you and thought that was your value. to have your attention required a fur coat. not special but available if the price was right. personally nobody had enough money to get my attention cause material things and money wasn't what i was looking for. don't get me wrong there is a saying that if money doesn't buy you happiness then you don't know where to shop!! but i found out that i can't enjoy things that don't belong to me. it just drives me even more to get it for myself. to you younger women who are still "looking", remember never give up your power. later wow,ur cool | |
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bassdame said: artpal said: Well, the only real "player" in the group was Robin. The calls for other Dames were legit boyfriends or just male friends. These calls sounded normal by themselves. But in the context of all the other calls, it sounded funny - like a collection of males - one after another after another after another. I think what I consider naughty on our part was laughing at the answering machine. Aside from Robin, it was all innocent.
So I can't answer your question about being a player - I myself can't imagine how anyone can have the energy to juggle people like that. I would imagine Prince would have been jealous - I don't know if he knew or not. The closest I got to a date was taking a long car ride with one of the Paisley Park engineers. His name was Paul I think. He asked me out and I said I had a boyfriend. He asked if we could just be friends and could he just take me for a ride around town. I was stressed out and needed a break and I said yes as long as he understood we'd just be friends. It turned out to be cool like that. I learned from him some insider Paisley Park stuff. The most significant secret I learned was that nobody took Prince's protege acts seriously. They were all a joke to them. He liked me however because I seemed like a serious musician who was all about the music rather than just shaking my booty around. I think Robin liked the attention she got when guys bought her things. It made her feel special. I interviewed an exotic dancer in my documentary who enjoys that too. It's like, "See how special I am? Someone bought me this mink stole! That's how much they liked me."
[Edited 10/3/05 11:11am] just a thought..it could be that the man assesed you and thought that was your value. to have your attention required a fur coat. not special but available if the price was right. personally nobody had enough money to get my attention cause material things and money wasn't what i was looking for. don't get me wrong there is a saying that if money doesn't buy you happiness then you don't know where to shop!! but i found out that i can't enjoy things that don't belong to me. it just drives me even more to get it for myself. to you younger women who are still "looking", remember never give up your power. later I could definatly tell bassdame. Money is important but it shouldn't define you as a person. Money doesn't equal class and sophistication. And ofcourse you can't take it with you! | |
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bassdame said: Krystal666 said: Hey artpal or bassdame I have a question...it's kinda bizarre but hey, you know I'm full of those right? Hee hee. Ok did you ever witness Robin or one of Prince's girlfriends mention another man was good looking in Prince's presemce? How did he react? How do you think he would react?
Ok sorry just wanted to ask that. Feel free to plug your movie now artpal.
[Edited 10/3/05 14:06pm]
[Edited 10/3/05 14:07pm] if he really liked you he would be jealous but i also think that when he first sees someone helikes he rather enjoys the process of "taking" her from her man. it would be a challenge and certainly would make life more interesting for him. i think the sad thing is, for him it's a game, but not for the girl. robin understood the process and tried to keep her options open and not get to caught up, it's called protecting yourself, remember she knew that the possiblity of price cutting her loose was there and she would be back on her own in terms of survival. here's something most people don't know..there was someone very special in her life and he along with p. took care of her. don't aks who.. that i will never tell, but she did love this person. she also loved prince and was devastated when he moved on. i guess there's always the hope that maybe you're the one. later A game huh? That really makes my head spin. I mean a man who could write the song One Kiss at a time? Wow, just wow! He kinda seems insecure when it comes to women to me.....which I can relate to because deep down I am very insecure about being attractive to the opposite sex too. I guess that is why I felt such a connection to alot of Prince's lyrics growing up....about wanting to be admired and be someone's "fantasy". | |
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Krystal666 said: A game huh? That really makes my head spin. I mean a man who could write the song One Kiss at a time? Wow, just wow! He kinda seems insecure when it comes to women to me.....which I can relate to because deep down I am very insecure about being attractive to the opposite sex too. I guess that is why I felt such a connection to alot of Prince's lyrics growing up....about wanting to be admired and be someone's "fantasy".I can totally relate to all of this Krystal. I too felt the insecurity coming from many of his lyrics growing up, and always felt the same way. Even though people tell me that I am attractive and have what they deem "bedroom eyes", I myself never felt that way..... | |
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txladykat said: Krystal666 said: A game huh? That really makes my head spin. I mean a man who could write the song One Kiss at a time? Wow, just wow! He kinda seems insecure when it comes to women to me.....which I can relate to because deep down I am very insecure about being attractive to the opposite sex too. I guess that is why I felt such a connection to alot of Prince's lyrics growing up....about wanting to be admired and be someone's "fantasy".I can totally relate to all of this Krystal. I too felt the insecurity coming from many of his lyrics growing up, and always felt the same way. Even though people tell me that I am attractive and have what they deem "bedroom eyes", I myself never felt that way..... The beautiful women I interviewed for my documentary ALL had insecurities about their looks. The former Mrs. Missouri was labeled "plain" growing up and although she blossomed in college, she can't even leave the house to grocery shop without her makeup on. I believe she joined a beauty contest for reassurance. The other women believed they are beautiful not because they themselves see it in the mirror, but because they have heard others say they are. In other words, being beautiful to them is an abstract concept based on what others tell them. There you go with my shameless plug, Krystal.
So now it's time for Bassdame and UptownDame to resume their stories! Gals? The blessings and curses of being beautiful - a documentary
http://www.beautydocumentary.com Read about my experiences working with Prince and Robin Power http://www.prince.org/msg/5/143228 | |
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artpal said: txladykat said: I can totally relate to all of this Krystal. I too felt the insecurity coming from many of his lyrics growing up, and always felt the same way. Even though people tell me that I am attractive and have what they deem "bedroom eyes", I myself never felt that way..... The beautiful women I interviewed for my documentary ALL had insecurities about their looks. The former Mrs. Missouri was labeled "plain" growing up and although she blossomed in college, she can't even leave the house to grocery shop without her makeup on. I believe she joined a beauty contest for reassurance. The other women believed they are beautiful not because they themselves see it in the mirror, but because they have heard others say they are. In other words, being beautiful to them is an abstract concept based on what others tell them. There you go with my shameless plug, Krystal.
So now it's time for Bassdame and UptownDame to resume their stories! Gals? That makes sense....years back when I did the pageant scene...whenever I would win it would always make me feel more "beautiful"....yes, totally stupid, I realize that now. Even in my modeling days, I still never felt I was that pretty and couldn't understand what they saw in me..... | |
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