Terilicious said:

I hate Yanni too. He starts out with a good idea and then never goes anywhere with it. I don't get the attraction.

artpal said:

I think that's a great idea to blend the Dames reunion with your documentary! I would love to see your video when it's finished. I wonder if there is way to get a transcript of Sunday's chat. I am obsessed with finding out what Krystal666 looks like-and I am a TOTALLY straight woman-what's that all about?? Have fun in your chat!

For some reason Yanni makes me very, very ANGRY
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Yes, I could understand that, he's kinda weird.

artpal said:

cuz she thinks ur hawt!!

artpal said:

Liza you are hilarious!!! Yes it is true I pulled that naughty story out of the dames so if you want to blame anyone for having a dirty mind when it comes to Prince you can blame me. Don't accuse thease lovely ladies of even remotley trying to humanize Prince by exposing that he is just like any other man! It was ALL my evil influence!!!!

oh geez, what a turn of events.

i am from houston and had to evacuate in the wake of hurricane rita. just got home a while ago and logged in and saw THIS.

I have to say, half way through the thread, before i even saw the pics, it was obvious jizzy was the fake. i tend to lean toward a possible member of the prince camp (or mani) camp myself.

artpal and bassdame, we all absolutely love your stories, private as well as musical. as a beginning keyboardist, i most definately find the musical stories intriguing and interesting...likewise as a longtime prince fan, i find the other stories just as interesting and intriguing.

don't let fools like jizzy (who btw, has not surfaced lately since yall posted your pics) discourage you!

hope to see yall in chat tonight...trying to get loose ends tied up followwing this darned hurricane!

peace!

hey txladykat!

Hope all is well after the hurricane! I too have been enjoying the input form artpal and bassdame. I hope they continue to share with the org. Take care of yourself.

txladykat said:

Hey txladykat,

Sorry you had to go thru that! ARe you ok?

Don't worry, Jizzy didn't bother me. Actually, he really was a great publicity stunt.

Speaking of hurricanes, I understand that MsLegs might have been affected by Katrina and we haven't heard from her for a while. I hope she's okay.

Hey guys,

Notice that I changed some of the photos in response to jizzy. I learned how to make them smaller. Hope you like them!

Oh yeah - you might also notice there is a sex scene somewhere in the background.


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artpal said:

Oh, my GOD! That is one adorable and hilarious "sex scene".

Funny how I saw artpal mention herself in an earlier post as a savvy middle aged dame...and though I am in full comprehension of the "savvy" part, I'm still wondering where the HECK do you see yourself as MIDDLE AGED? You, dear, are cute as a button, and I don't see that fading for a long whil, indeed!

I must say overall, the ladies we've found from Uptown Dames are absolutely lovely! In my industry, y'all remind me of the kind of models we look for for "real life" beauty campaigns like the latest one I worked on for DOVE...just real, and BEAUTIFUL...I swear, I'd take you Dames in a beauty campaign over twats like Kate and Naomi ANY DAY ...

UptownDame and artpal joined us in The Holy River chat room last night and both of them were wonderful ladies

Thank you to both of you 4 joining us..

If any of you would like to read the chat transcript it will be posted in our forums later today or by tommorrow

www.theholyriver.com

Thanks again Dames come back anytime

Ottensen said:

Thanks, Ottensen! Actually we do modeling on the side though Bassdame says she's getting tired of that. I am an SAG actress as well and do on camera video and print work. I can send you my glamour photo if you like.

I'm proud of being middle aged - I announce it to show that I am wise and experienced. It also tells you that I was alive and conscious during the sixties seventies and eighties - which tells you what kind of conversations we can have. You can't tell in the photos but I'm starting to have a little bit of gray hair, which I will never color cuz I want people to know I am wise and experienced. It also gives me more credibility as a music composer - most people see a white male with wild white hair when they try to picture a "composer." In other words, I'm proud of my inside as well as my outside.

MidnightFunk said:

It was really fun. I wish Bassdame coulda been there. Uptown Dame, it was nice chattin. The Holy River people were nice, fun, and witty. Thanks for inviting me!

Ottensen said:

You worked on the Dove campaign? My friends and I LOVE those ads. I think that is one of the angles that Artpal is using in her documentary. What was your participation? Maybe she could use your commentary on how that campaign was discussed in the boardroom and the feedback you're getting from it..
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MidnightFunk said:

It was a lot of fun. I've never really been big on the chat thing, but I may be getting the bug
Thanks for inviting us. I'm sure we'll be around your site again.

UptownDame said:

Yeah - I love the Dove campaign as well. I do hope to interview you or someone about that.

Let me say this - all those prince babe photos you see from paisley park - they're all an illusion. Just like the rest of the glamour industry. There are makeup artists, professional photographers with lighting specialists, computer touch ups - no wonder the average woman is insecure about their looks -including us.

Those mug shots that jizzy made us do did not involve all those illusions. Tell you the truth, we felt self conscious about that. But screw it. I'd like to see Mayte's mug shot.

like smokeverbs said last night "We're all just people"

That's so true. I worked in advetising and was on a photoshott with all these models. It's shocking how the "transformation" takes place.

Tyra Banks showed how even she gets touched up via cmoputer: she showed the poster for her show and how they totally "stretched" it to make her thinner. Crazay!!!

artpal said:

Hey artpal...haven't posted in a Dames thread in a minute...I feel a bit responsible for this big ol novela...LOL,I just remember being one of the first if not the first person enquiring about you ladies...but I didn't know it would bring out the bitter,jaded,and scorned. By the way I believe your and Bassdames stories are legit.

Ottensen said:

I think the recent Dove ad is a great campaign.
Hopefully there'll be more along these lines that celebrate the body types of every day women.

Couldn't help but be a bit gleeful when I heard that the skeletal remains that are Kate Moss...



...lost her Hennes and Mauritz, Burberry and Chanel contracts due to drug use.


Here's to all the...



...healthy gals out there.


tA


Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431

Please don't make TOO much fun of Kate Moss's size. You can't tell by the frumpy shirt I have on but I'm more her size.

But yeah - I hope we can learn to appreciate the beauty in all types of women. In my documentary, the women all look different but were all somehow labeled beautiful. Interesting really - one is in a wheel chair, another the healthier Dove type size, and then of course there were the usual thin model types. I even interviewed older beauties to get their retrospective opinion on being beautiful.

The doc doesn't really try to redefine or define beauty. It simply asks beautiful women what is or was like to be considered beautiful. Is it all it's cracked up to be? I got some really surprising answers.

In the end, I came away with the impression that we are all very conflicted about beauty. We declare outside beauty as being superficial, but judge others by their appearance and freak out at any one little imperfection we might have.

The subject is so taboo that the beautiful women had trouble talking about it. Yet their beauty so affected their lives. One young woman was told that the film was about "young women in the work place". When I told her that it was REALLY about her being BEAUTIFUL she freaked. If I hadn't punked her there was no way she would have volunteered for the interview.

I know this is a shameless plug but you get to read about prince and sex in exchange.



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boriquateddy said:

Hey BT,

No need to feel bad. I'm glad you kept inquiring cuz now look at what's happening - it's great. Jizzy was great too.


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artpal said:

My view is not myopic towards Kate Moss. It's the fact that everywhere you look women are being given the false impression that you have to weigh less than 100 pounds or you're fat. And the sad part is that so many of them that are larger, but in good health, are falling for it.

Now as this relates to you, i'm willing to bet that you're not on some goofy diet, purging or doing cocaine to be that size. Am I right? That is your natural size. I'm talking about women that are trying to emulate someone who is abnormally skinny. Kate Moss in this case.

When I was coming up these were some of the women whose bodies were considered ideal...




All of a sudden, it became this...




That's quite a drastic change. To my eyes, those 2 women look seriously ill.


tA


Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431

theAudience said:

Oh man - no I'm not THAT skinny. Geeze that's scary looking. But I am naturally petite and no I'm not on a crazy diet. In fact, I was always trying hard to gain weight. When I was little, my father the physician gave me pills to make me eat more. Fortunately, with age, I put on some weight and I'm happier. I even get more compliments cuz of the extra pounds. Really. I don't think men REALLY like those anorexic skeletons you see in those photos. Lord lord lord...
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hey everyone..back from seeing artpal..been busy. where are you dizzy oh excuse me jizzy!? sorry and i mean really sorry i couldn't join the chat last night. the dove campaign was awesome and we are available! i want you all to know that i have gotten so much out of this experience, it's been so validating and fun to relive those times with people who are truly interested. for those just starting out i may have posted this before, but here's a piece of advice that jimmy jam gave me: the best thing you could possibly is BE PREPARED, you never know how or when your opportunity will come and this phrase.."i'm not ready can i come back" will end that opportunity immediately.
later

the audience: the event that you mentioned in ny.. is that the licensing conference?

bassdame said:

No.



A.E.S. (Audio Engineering Society)


tA


Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431

artpal said:

You are right artpal! Lots of women don't like it when skinny girls judge curvy women for being the size they are but alot of women don't realise the women who are size two don't necessarily starve themselves. Many women are just naturaly short and petite. I have lots of friends who are tiny they look healthy but small. They have healthy eating habits and people still accuse them of having eating disorders. You can tell when someone has an eating disorder usually because they look gaunt and lack muscle definition and have skinny face...I think Kate Moss and Calista Flockheart are perfect examples of someone with an eating disorder but there are lots of women who are just small but look healthy like Jada Pinket Smith...she is all of 5'2 and small but has a nice shaply body. I am taller and curvy but I know lots of women come in all different shapes and sizes and colors and there is no ONE look that is beautiful it is all about the individual woman!

P.S. artpal and bassdame you girls have hardly changed since the early ninties! You are both just as beautiful as ever!!!!