o yes! i LOVE that movie!!! it would be amazing to have a docu like that about the "purple people"

laurarichardson said:

I am BLACK and Parade is one of my favorite of his albums.
That drummer from the Roots,Jill Scott and Amel Larrieux also love it,who are also black,the last time I checked.

gypsyfire said:

black here too...

say it loud!!!

sosgemini said:

Me three! I think 'Parade' was Prince's best album. We must be the only people of color in the world that like it.

sosgemini said:

me four! I have to admitted i was aback when I first heard that album ATWIAD back in 1993 (and that the same year that I like Prince and also the same year I like wendy and some lisa) because I thought it going to be another Purple Rain but it eventually grew on me. Parade is cool too. Girls and Boys and Mountains are the jam. And so is Pop Life, Rasberry Beret, and Condition of the Heart.

sosgemini said:

same here...

say it loud yall! we blk weirdness lovers and we proud!

sosgemini said:

I would have never guessed! I guess it is the avatar that threw me off.

:: sticks a toe in the water ::

I think the question of overrated and underrated regarding W&L has to do with the period in question and who's doing the rating.

I'll throw you a bone here. In terms of Prince's overall output and career, I think that Wendy & Lisa are overrated in terms of that period. Equally, I think that in the Prince community that period of Wendy & Lisa's lives is overrated in terms of its impact to their overall career.

The Prince years were, without question, fundamental to Wendy & Lisa's careers. Would they have had musical careers without the Prince connection? I don't doubt it - certainly their musical brothers had the Prince connection as well, but that wasn't what they leveraged on their ways to work with later artists. The whole extended family had musical connections, and so while Wendy and Lisa would have radically different musical careers without the Revolution days, I have no doubt they'd still have worked in the industry as the respected sessionists and songwriters they are.

When I look at Wendy & Lisa, I see musicians' musicians. Last week's Largo show was proof of that: Eric Clapton, John Mayers, Seal, Alicia Keys, and many others in the crowd were industry types out to support a group of musicians that clearly spoke to them in their own language. And certainly this shows in the fact they're still in demand as songwriters and sessionists - both for new artists working to establish themselves (Van Hunt, OK Go, and The Like) as well as a very diverse group big names who see in their work something key to work with (Tricky, Gwen Stefani, Eric Clapton, etc, etc.)

I don't think these musicians are choosing to work with Wendy & Lisa as musicians, songwriters and producers because of some over-rated hype. Clearly folks Eric Clapton can take their pick of musicians and songwriters. When we get into the current period of Wendy & Lisa's career, I would have to say that their music is held in high esteem by their peers and fairly underrated outside the industry.

So let's get back to that bone I'm ready to throw you.

When I listen to the old Prince music, I hear some very young women who were still growing into themselves, and had yet to become the incredibly competent and strong musicians they are today. Given their youth, I'm very impressed - things like Lisa's piano solos on "Anotherloverholenyohead," stopping on a dime in a key whispered in her head only a few minutes before? Impressive, but . . . not where she is now in terms of her scoring work. Wendy's ability to hold the energy of a massive stadium crowd and lead the band during the Parade tour? Good stuff - unquestionably - but compared to her jam with Eric Clapton and Doyle Bramhall II at Largo last week, it was really only prep work.

So here's what I'll say. Over the last 20 years Wendy & Lisa have just begun to hit their full stride in perhaps the last 8 (since Girl Bros, and hence after most of their albums were released). Compared to what they are doing now in their session, songwriting and scoring work, the Revolution work is indeed highly overrated.

Here's my question for you. Do you also believe that Prince has grown, challenged and extended his work over the last 20 years? Can you say of him that he his work now, compared to the Revolution days, is better, worse, or about the same? And if he's not continuing to challenge himself to get better over time, why not?

(I can't answer that question for anyone but me, so I'm really asking you.)

i just want to say i totally disagree with alliason..





j/k

and i'll answer...yes and no..prince's live work is phenominal right now.....i dont think anyone can touch that right now..but, on record...on record he seems to have lost the desire to capture "vitality" and life.....

just my two cents...

SOSGemini you keep teasing me with the GB Radio updates when I can't stream at work? That's almost worse than misspelling my name, man.

:: pouts ::

Alliasan said:

I remember Katrina from the old Wendy & Lisa bulletin board on Artist Direct. That bb used to be fun until the design and format got changed and killed it.

sextonseven said:

Hey you -

Oh, god, that board was great till (sniff) they (mope) KILLED IT!

Oh, well. We always have prince.org right?

Suddenly talkative these days,
K

Alliasan said:

Ah, memories.

My first post on the old bb was a question about the upcoming free W&L show at Arlene's Grocery in NYC's lower east side. Kat welcomed me to the board with open arms (as she does everyone). It was a nice little online family. Or at least time has colored my memory of it as being a nice family.

hey, dont forget about girlbroslandia.org.

i miss all the ole imusic folk.....thingie,joshyjosh, that rollercoaster guy.....


i think a lot of people are intimidated to post because they think we are soo serious or are too informed about all that is wendy and lisa...

but deep down, we are just crazy funny folks who want a good life from time to time....

man that board used to be funny...

sosgemini said:

imusic! That is what it used to be called! I couldn't remember that for the life of me--only that Artist Direct owned it or took it over and one day it went to hell.

sextonseven said:

what was your name there?

and please replace "life" with "laugh" in my initial post.

sosgemini said:

I had three imusic names that I used depending on which board I was posting: seandavid, sextonseven and Paris Dean. seandavid may have been my W&L alias.

sosgemini said:

Speak for yourself, my friend! Me? I am vewwy, vewwy sewious, all the time, just like Shecky.

sextonseven said:

Yes, it was seandavid! Gawd, it's been years and years, but good to see you here! Come on over and play in the sandbox sometime.

Alliasan said:

Maybe I will take that first step. As long as I don't feel like I'm cheating on the org behind its back.

sextonseven said:

Nah. Do what SOSGemini does - be polyamorous with the org in front of its face!

Alliasan said:

I dunno. I'm a monogamous type of guy.

I'm also single ladies. Orgnote me and I'll impress you with my extensive knowledge of comic books.

sextonseven said:

I remember they have that wendy and lisa message board on imusic it was around girls bro era if i am not mistaken. i was a lurker back then so of course no one remembers me. but i enjoyed reading the board and it was a great board too.

those were the dayz. but now i got prince org and girlbrolandia to turn to now.

Hold up... W&L did a free show in NYC????? When was this? I live here and we never get any good "Related Artist" action (although 5 minues ago I got an email from BB King's that Morris and the time will be here in Dec).

GaryMF said:

Oh man, the free Wendy & Lisa show at Arlene's Grocery was several years ago--before the Girl Bros. album was released. The setlist was mostly Girl Bros tracks, none of which I had heard yet since the album wasn't released, but I loved the show.

I'll make note of the upcoming Time show at BB King's. You never know which old members might show up. Last time I saw them there, it was a dinner show so people were getting food served to them while the guys were onstage which was a bit annoying.

sextonseven said:

If you're gonna go (Or other NYC orgers) let me know adn we should meet up.