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Thread started 07/03/05 1:53am

Moonwalkbjrain

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Jill Jones are yall serious?!

so i just listened to mia bocca, didn't even listen to it all..she sounds horrible...this is the girl that yall give so much prasie to and i finally hear it and its like DAMN whatthehell were they talking about? whats about w/ all the jill hype?
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Reply #1 posted 07/03/05 2:23am

thedog

Moonwalkbjrain said:

so i just listened to mia bocca, didn't even listen to it all..she sounds horrible...this is the girl that yall give so much prasie to and i finally hear it and its like DAMN whatthehell were they talking about? whats about w/ all the jill hype?


On that song she sounds stupid, but there are others. You should listen to baby you're a trip. She sounds much better, like a true R&B singer.
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Reply #2 posted 07/03/05 1:03pm

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thedog said:

Moonwalkbjrain said:

so i just listened to mia bocca, didn't even listen to it all..she sounds horrible...this is the girl that yall give so much prasie to and i finally hear it and its like DAMN whatthehell were they talking about? whats about w/ all the jill hype?


On that song she sounds stupid, but there are others. You should listen to baby you're a trip. She sounds much better, like a true R&B singer.





I agree "Mia Boca" sounds like one of those typical protege records but "Baby your a trip" is the shiznit...and "Violet blue" and "For you"
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Reply #3 posted 07/03/05 1:06pm

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Listen to Violet Blue. wink
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Reply #4 posted 07/03/05 1:21pm

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BeautifulOneJem said:

Listen to Violet Blue. wink


Yes!
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Reply #5 posted 07/03/05 1:50pm

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the music is what makes that song, not the vocal
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Reply #6 posted 07/03/05 2:45pm

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Moonwalkbjrain said:

so i just listened to mia bocca, didn't even listen to it all..she sounds horrible...this is the girl that yall give so much prasie to and i finally hear it and its like DAMN whatthehell were they talking about? whats about w/ all the jill hype?

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I have been saying this for years and warning people. That chick had a horrible voice. The music is great but she sucks ass as a singer.
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Reply #7 posted 07/03/05 2:46pm

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4nowneway said:

the music is what makes that song, not the vocal

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Good Lord. What are you supposed to do pretend you don't hear a sound that makes you think of a screaming cat. (LOL)
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Reply #8 posted 07/03/05 3:02pm

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laurarichardson said:

4nowneway said:

the music is what makes that song, not the vocal

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Good Lord. What are you supposed to do pretend you don't hear a sound that makes you think of a screaming cat. (LOL)



lol lol lol falloff
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Reply #9 posted 07/03/05 5:04pm

altavista

laurarichardson said:

Moonwalkbjrain said:

so i just listened to mia bocca, didn't even listen to it all..she sounds horrible...this is the girl that yall give so much prasie to and i finally hear it and its like DAMN whatthehell were they talking about? whats about w/ all the jill hype?

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I have been saying this for years and warning people. That chick had a horrible voice. The music is great but she sucks ass as a singer.


It's so interesting that so many people feel this way. JJ was a background singer on so many of P's cuts in the 1999 days, and she was great. She was also a backup singer for Teena Marie, which I don't think was an easy gig to get. So I don't know what gives. I like JJ's album, though. I like the whole vibe of it. I appreciate it best when it's listened to in its entirety in a sitting. It's actually quite a short album.
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Reply #10 posted 07/03/05 7:37pm

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laurarichardson said:

4nowneway said:

the music is what makes that song, not the vocal

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Good Lord. What are you supposed to do pretend you don't hear a sound that makes you think of a screaming cat. (LOL)



nod i don't care how good the music is..if i aint feelin ya voice i can't get with what ya doin.

so violet blue and baby ur a trip are good huh? anyone wanna share so i can find out? biggrin
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Reply #11 posted 07/03/05 7:50pm

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Moonwalkbjrain said:

laurarichardson said:


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Good Lord. What are you supposed to do pretend you don't hear a sound that makes you think of a screaming cat. (LOL)



nod i don't care how good the music is..if i aint feelin ya voice i can't get with what ya doin.

so violet blue and baby ur a trip are good huh? anyone wanna share so i can find out? biggrin


I agree.

That's like saying "It doesn't matter that the actors in this movie I'm watching can't act, cause the written lines are good."
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Reply #12 posted 07/03/05 9:42pm

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I dig her voice she sounds a lot like Gwen Stefani
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Reply #13 posted 07/03/05 9:50pm

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Jill has talent and a strong voice, for sure.

And the *music* on her debut album is great. IMO, I do think she overdoes the screechiness angle a tad on it, however. boxed
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Reply #14 posted 07/03/05 9:55pm

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4nowneway said:

I dig her voice she sounds a lot like Gwen Stefani

Hollaback Girl is trash though.
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Reply #15 posted 07/04/05 2:30am

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I also don't like Mia Bocca, but I do like G-spot, and Baby, you're a trip. The music to Mia Bocca I like it better it being instrumental like it was in the movie Under The Cherry Moon.
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Reply #16 posted 07/04/05 7:45am

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Her album is OK but she would have had a much better album if Prince had given her one around the time of "1999" or "Purple Rain". It would have been that bad ass "Minneapolis Sound" and she would at least have had a fighting chance like Vanity 6 and Apollonia 6. Poor Jill didn't get her album until people had lost interest in Prince and his new sound.
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Reply #17 posted 07/04/05 11:21am

thedog

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Her album is OK but she would have had a much better album if Prince had given her one around the time of "1999" or "Purple Rain". It would have been that bad ass "Minneapolis Sound" and she would at least have had a fighting chance like Vanity 6 and Apollonia 6. Poor Jill didn't get her album until people had lost interest in Prince and his new sound.


Yeah, her album sounded like something that should have came out in between 1982 and 1984. I think she should have been the lead singer for 6 (Jill 6), but I guess she would have had to have been fucking Prince like Vanity was.
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Reply #18 posted 07/04/05 12:04pm

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altavista said:

laurarichardson said:


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I have been saying this for years and warning people. That chick had a horrible voice. The music is great but she sucks ass as a singer.


It's so interesting that so many people feel this way. JJ was a background singer on so many of P's cuts in the 1999 days, and she was great. She was also a backup singer for Teena Marie, which I don't think was an easy gig to get. So I don't know what gives. I like JJ's album, though. I like the whole vibe of it. I appreciate it best when it's listened to in its entirety in a sitting. It's actually quite a short album.

Yeah, I don't think she could've gotten to be backup singing for Lady T and have a weak voice.
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Reply #19 posted 07/04/05 5:49pm

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I guess she would have had to have been fucking Prince like Vanity was.


Prince was fucking JJ.
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Reply #20 posted 07/05/05 2:42am

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Moonwalkbjrain said:

so i just listened to mia bocca, didn't even listen to it all..she sounds horrible...this is the girl that yall give so much prasie to and i finally hear it and its like DAMN whatthehell were they talking about? whats about w/ all the jill hype?



haha.....

its a good cd id say. not the greatest thing ever but its good to have in your prince collection smile
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Reply #21 posted 07/05/05 4:23am

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TheCrucialExperience said:

altavista said:



It's so interesting that so many people feel this way. JJ was a background singer on so many of P's cuts in the 1999 days, and she was great. She was also a backup singer for Teena Marie, which I don't think was an easy gig to get. So I don't know what gives. I like JJ's album, though. I like the whole vibe of it. I appreciate it best when it's listened to in its entirety in a sitting. It's actually quite a short album.

Yeah, I don't think she could've gotten to be backup singing for Lady T and have a weak voice.

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That is exactly why her singing on the Cd was such a disappointment to me. I wanted like the CD but, I can't take her voice.
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Reply #22 posted 07/05/05 5:01am

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Unlike many other female Prince proteges,Jill Jones can actually sing,but unfortunately,on her debut album she didn't use her vocals very well.On too many songs,she does alot of screaming,yelling and Prince-inspired yelps.It becomes embarassing at times.She sometimes sounds as if she is losing her mind,lol.For the most part,the songs are good,but the vocals needed more restraint and less gimmicks.
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Reply #23 posted 07/05/05 6:17am

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vainandy said:

Her album is OK but she would have had a much better album if Prince had given her one around the time of "1999" or "Purple Rain". It would have been that bad ass "Minneapolis Sound" and she would at least have had a fighting chance like Vanity 6 and Apollonia 6. Poor Jill didn't get her album until people had lost interest in Prince and his new sound.



Absolutely.I always felt that her album came out too late.By 1987,the whole "G-spot" concept was already old (lol) and many of the other songs ("All Day All Night"..."Mia Bocca") simply sounded outdated by 1987.In fact,The Revolution (who plays on her album) weren't even together by the time Jill's album was finally released! Her album should have come out in 1985,when she could taken advantage of the "Purple Rain" hype from several months earlier.
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Reply #24 posted 07/05/05 7:25am

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I have yet to hear this album
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Reply #25 posted 07/05/05 12:03pm

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Moonwalkbjrain said:

so i just listened to mia bocca, didn't even listen to it all..she sounds horrible...this is the girl that yall give so much prasie to and i finally hear it and its like DAMN whatthehell were they talking about? whats about w/ all the jill hype?


yeah, i don't get it either.
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Reply #26 posted 07/05/05 2:08pm

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J.J. can blow. Just listen to the tracks off of the 1999 album and the "What Time Is It?" album. P was a punkass for not giving Jill an album of some funk/rock material circa 1999/Purple Rain. That's the kind of material J.J. should have been doing. She DEFINATELY should have had an album in 84, no doubt about it. Teena's "Emerald City" album, side 1, THAT'S what Jill should have been doing during the Purple Rain explosion. Half of the material on Mazarati's album should have been given to J.J. I hate the material he gave her on her album. That to me, was super sorry. And he knew it. That's why he held off on her album, untill he jumped off into that Paris, France type of thing he was doing. He knew that shit didn't fit Jill.
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Reply #27 posted 07/05/05 2:51pm

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thedog said:

I guess she would have had to have been fucking Prince like Vanity was.


Prince was fucking JJ.



She always claims she didn't
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Reply #28 posted 07/05/05 6:16pm

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Militant said:



Prince was fucking JJ.



She always claims she didn't


Well it's well-known that she was. However, I think her comments are about the fact that I don't think anyone would want to advertise/admit that she was somebody's "holla back" girl. A "B-lister" who was with him when he wasn't busy with his new finds... hate to say it, but it's true..
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Reply #29 posted 07/05/05 7:22pm

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That's why he held off on her album, untill he jumped off into that Paris, France type of thing he was doing. He knew that shit didn't fit Jill.


Exactly....that "Parade" type shit. People may love it and call it "genius" on this site but the most of the general public hated it. He was so absorbed with a "Lawrence Welk" sound at the time with the orchestras and shit, that some of it bled over into Jill's album. A lot of people bought "Parade" simply because it was Prince but they weren't going to buy the same type of shit that disappointed them with Jill, who was not very well known.

She should have been given an album with the synthesizers and shit (and NO DAMN ORCHESTRAS) like Vanity 6 and Apollonia 6. She may not have become a huge star but at least she would have sold as well as they did. Jesse Johnson was doing well at the time of Jill Jones and so was Andre Cymone producing Jody Watley. Why?....because they didn't have Prince putting damn orchestras on their songs turning people off.
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