JudasLChrist said:

Hey I can't help it! He is a sexy, sophisticated, traveled, older man! My favorite type! I like the idea of Prince as a sexy Cassanova!

bassdame said:

wow. thats really interesting, deffinately not what i was expecting, when i see him on the telle he doesn't seem like that kind of "ME" guy. but then u cant judge a book by its cover right. bass i just looove and respect how u stay soo cool about these things and don't get omg!! syndrome
thanks 4 the story

Moonwalkbjrain said:

hey you said telle are british or influenced by the brits-i spent quite a bit of time in the uk-what gives? believe it or not in my first musical life i was a rocker-led zeppelin did it for me-kashmir
thanks for appreciating the way i flowed..at the time i seemed like an alien-i was so extremely frustated at my lack of adoration abilities. but in my heart i am a raving fan- it just translates differently. i always had the notion that we're all "adorable". why one more than the other. hey you all that responded to my vibe with your honesty in terms of you would go "gaga" if you had the chance hey that's all good..any response thats pure is real..don't think for a minute that there's anything judgemental about me. if i ever met the person who broke down my persona star or not that person would have a fan fanatically for life. i have fanatic potential-just found a reason to release itf, other through my music, like god it's in us all
later

just read what i posted, you'll notice when i'm tired or distracted i don't proof so hopefully you all can figure out what i was trying to say.
later

bassdame said:

hey there are no more postings- i think i have driven you all away. artpal has even bowed out!!!where are you girl. i won't be around for a while so please come back and chat everyone.
later

bassdame said:

nahhh u aint drove us away! folks just probly sleep and stuff...but don't worry, i dont think anyway can stay awayd from this thread for TOO long



nahh i aint british (jersey in the house!) but i guess u could say im british influenced. i'm into different ways of speaking, so i say stuff like telle, wanker, groovy, sweet, damage (like a way to say whats ur problem) copastetik (i use to have my friends rollin wit that one) stuff like that.
thats cool, whats it like over there? is it really always cold and dank? whats the music scene like? and yea i def. like the way u flow with celebs. and ur right we are all "adorable" in our own ways, but u know what it is? celebs are exposed, they show their adorability on a wider scale than the average person. its a town hero type thing, the more people in ur town that see u save the kid from gettin run over the more u get adored and fawned over and all that. and its cool if u never go OMG!!!!! over a celeb, like i said, its cool that ur not fazed by that. celebs need more people like u around them, i think that would bring their whole "diva" thing wayyyyy down

bassdame said:

Hey Bass - still here - just don't know what to say. Except - you still haven't answered how you became a bass player as opposed to a keyboard player or other instrumentalist. Also, someone asked what you've been up to lately.

The celeb thing worked similarly with me. Like I said, I admire Prince as a musician and I was so happy to jam with him, but that's about where it ended.

Even the musicianship worship had its limits. Remember how I had to show Prince a line on the keyboard several times before he got it down on the guitar? Well, if Prince had been me, I would have had that line in one try. Yes, on the guitar, which I play as well. I've been seen around town playing the bass and violin too. He saw on my resume that I play violin and wouldn't believe it. He made me send him a tape of my playing the violin - I played Vivaldi for him.

You see, I have the fastest ears in the West. Play me anything on the radio and I'll play it right back at you.

I wonder if this thread is in trouble now.

But anyway, yes, I too saw him as a peer who happened to "win the lottery" so to speak. Not to say I'm better than him - not at all - just that there were times where he just didn't scare me at all.

Another thing Bassdame - I can tell you're really holding back on some juicy stories - that's cool. I made a big boo boo on the original thread, which we had to pull. It's kinda hard to tell where to draw the line, isn't it?

Come on - you can think of something juicy but innocent kinda sorta -

I have an idea - why don't you write us how YOU perceived our jam session with Prince and other notable events? They only know my point of view. Perhaps you weren't very impressed jamming with Prince?
[Edited 8/13/05 7:07am]

BlaqueKnight said:

I've been in touch with Alysa the singer and Tracy the guitarist. Alyssa is busy gigging as a singer. She is awesome, by the way. Tracy doesn't play much guitar anymore and is busy riding horses in competition. She's actually from MN. Alyssa doesn't care to post cuz she's not one to joing online discussion groups. Tracy doesn't own a computer. She did, however, express interest in getting the Dames back together.

okay- tomorrow i'm on my way to the west coast until tues., so i'll be out of pocket. yeah i also use copasetic! this is a word i can't do without, unfortunately "vibe" is another one. england is cold and dank. there were times when i wore sweaters (or cardigans) in july. i see the brits as people who honor and love their heritage and legacy, but they need to acknowledge it and move on- it's okay to have central heat and air!!! after a while you desperately want to see a 7/11 or mcd. there was a kfc near the american embassy. this was sometime ago so i'm sure they progressed since then.
when i was a little one i used to think that whenever a song played on the radio the actual musicians were there playing!!i used to beg my mother to take me to the radio station to see the groups and i spent many nites trying to figure out how all those people could fit in one room..silly girl
yeah i went to boarding school in belgium and every sunday we would go to the opera. one day like finally understanding a foreign language, i could differentiate instrumentation. i was so excited and shared this news with anyone who would listen i wanted to know if they too heard the song in totality but yet dissected and anyalyzed every instrument. i was 8. i would wake up at night and hear songs complete with vocals, backgrounds everything. when i got older and away from the nuns i began to keep a tape recorder by my bed and sing/mumble stuff into it. everyday was like getting email from someone you like. one day here recently i played the recorder eager to hear what i might have come up with and i swear i heard my voice saying "nothing tonight"!
i have some wacky theories about mucisians and the instrument they play. a lot of times the instrument chooses you. drummers- loud, sometimes smaller in stature, think they know everything. i usually clash personally with drummers but love them on the count of 4. bass - also loud, sometimes the leader of the group, steady, loyal personalities-this is me always looking for stability and solid ground, used to think i knew it all-now i know it would be no fun to know it all..what would be the point in going on. the thing that gets me up every morning is the certainty that the best is yet to come. guitar- divas straight up, you always gotta tell them to turn it down. every note they play is a solo!!! keys- nerdy, :square:this person is usually the music director and will always want to give out charts that no one uses. hey with this combo you've got a family and if you get the right folks it's magic. there was an all girl band that i was in, after being with another female long enough your cycles will adjust to coincide (this is a fact), so we had a calendar and the week before was redlined, because everyone was pmsing and that's when we usually had fights and somebody would inevitiably quit (just for the night) okay you probably don't want to hear this..but i have always had tomboy tendencies i wanted to (and did) ride motorcycles. the bass was a natural instrument for me. also here's the part you might not want to hear..i was crazy about this boy who played bass. the magic of him ..he enlightened me, taught to love the bass and then of course he was gone but left me a lifetime gift. i started just hanging around the music crew when i came to live in the states. i met some guys who were horrified that my favorite groups were all rock bands. now this is true..they locked in a room for 48 hrs., with nothing but music to listen to; here's some of the roster..ohio players , grahm central station, nother's finest, al green , sly and the,,,, when i came out of that room i had stars in my eyes , i wanted 2 things , something to eat and someone to teach me how to thump!!! our circle was really small in dc, so we all knew of each other and i heard about artpal long before i met her. those days were so much fun y'all, we would all go to each others shows as a group. my band would get together and decide what we should wear and we would go together and stand at the back of the club and try to intimidate our "rivals". one day i bought some shades (uv) and decided i would wear them to see another group play. well we pimped walked into the club just knowing everyone was looking at us (cause of course we had "the look" i want y'll to know that i couldn't see a damn thing and i walked straight into a wall :omfg:artpal you best believe i have some stories that would get us thrown off of this thread, i promise next time i post i will deliver a story with the names withheld to protect the innocent (yeah right), but you all will be able to put is together. where's krystal..if i ran her off then i'm just to through..artpal where's your girl at!? and where is the song? and call me i got some wisdom for u
later i not proofing so anything wacky figure it out!

Krystal666 said:

eddie did date vanity-that's weird you should bring that up..that's who he dropped me for!!!!! Prince is very controlled around women, he always seems amused but when i saw him with carmen when she walked in the room his energy changed and it looked like he actually blushed! p. seems to like small boned women or women with immense talent. alicia and beyonce would not necessarily been his type (only he really knows that though) if it was not for their intense talent. he had an awesome eye for recognizing stars in the making. i never saw him boss anyone around, but i only saw him in his space and i'd liketo see the person who's going to boss him around there. he's intense he's sexy he's short he's beautiful. he's very intelligent, and he's always watching. i used to get the feeling that when we (the group) were sitting around talking that he was around, we just couldn't see him. you cannot convince me that when we practiced at pp that he wasn't us! don't get the wrong impression..i love p. on so many levels.
later girl

artpal said:

o wow! violin...thats sexy

bassdame said:

oh my...thats a longgggg ass post! lol

lol wow thats crazy about the weather. i'd looooove to go there one day or even live there, but that whole cold and dank mess is such a turn off! are u serious about the 711 and mcd thing? i cannot believe they didn't have one, i feel for u cuz i looooove me some mcd! thats cute about the musicians @ the radio station thing, but i can do u one better. for the longest time i use to think that all the melodies i heard comming from the radio and the cd player where made in factories. i always use to think - wow are they ever gonna run outta melodies? - AND on songs that used multiple vocals, i used to think it was the same person singing everything at once and i would get sooooo frustrated when i couldn't do it! crazy huh? lol

o wow the opera, that sounds sooo fun! opera really fascinates me, can't really listen to it, kinda bores me, but its so fascinating how those singers do their voices. dude are u serious about this?



thats really cool. i like ur theories about musicians, what other instruments can u play?

this sounds soooo awesome


i bet u had the time of ur life during those 48hrs! i can't wait for ur next story! and artpal u too!

Bassdame said:

artpal said:

c'mon, you know it's kinda true (!), i mean, haven't you ever ONCE gotten that speech in a rehearsal or soundcheck when you have someone in your band saying that you need to get the people in the audience to nod their heads vs. follow your chart (smile)...i've alway found that if you're not in a traditional jazz or classical setting, a lot of what we've been taught goes out the window for the sake of...well, i dunno...maintaining a sense of vibrance and urgency to keep the people hypnotized on a very superficial level musically...

Ottensen said:

Yeah - I guess it's true.

Hotlegs said:

and good evenin'! funny how there'S one former head of Sony who comes to mind when you say this; I remember being at a (business)dinner party with him and two of his partners- one mega-pop producer whose career you can trace back 20 years, and one certain music "svengali" who controls (or at least USED to control) the latin music scene in the U.S...though the big three were supposed to be there to finalize the details of a deal some friends of mine were making with their label, all Mr. Labelhead would do is sit there and whine about whether or not some chick was going to show up to dinner...the chick in question actually being someone who eventually would go on to get mass hype from Sony as an artist...I mean, can you imagine being a newbie producer/session player, on the verge of getting your first big project (in terms of how many units you can count on getting sold thus solidifying your "status" in the industry), and all your host can do at the dinner that's supposed to confirm the deal you've fought so hard for is er, uh, basically ignore you...and blurt out every 2 minutes, "so when is that girl comin' that you told me about? the bitch better be here by the time coktails are finished" etc, etc,....

...it's definitely a brutal business...

Hotlegs said:

Cool vocal influences! Aside from your CD project, are you giggin'? Gotta love somebody who still wants to do jazz in this day and age....will your cd be originals or standards?

Ottensen said:

No wonder the music they put out sucks. That's why I am so happy to see those fat cows tremble at their falling sales. Thank God for the internet, huh?

artpal said:

co-sign!

Ottensen said:

So tell me a little about your friends. How did they catch the interest of these bozos in the first place? What are the details of the story?

artpal said:

Absolutely! I mean, it actually got to the point where if my friend and his partner would submit songs for cd consideration (this was after they each got their respective publishing deals with Warner and Sony (even if the demos were for very MOR artists or those of the more kitschy variety), everything would be returned at LEAST once with very specific instructions from the suits to "dumb it down, and not get too sophisticated" musically...it was definitely an eye opener as to what the heads in the music industry REALLY think about the general record buying public .

artpal said:

Whew! That would take forever to go into! But since it's late as heck here, I'm going to have to tackle that one later (it's close to 2am here, I think)! I can at least start by saying that they got their attention by sacrificing anything in their midst (the good old fashioned way of mixing talent with butt-kissing, greed and emotional ruthlessness), and--- that they were also boys so they didn't have to deal with the casting couch issue; they could talk hits, dollars, and cents to the suits without being subjected to having their legs and chests felt up, lol!!!

you know what i posted some stories about artpal and i have no idea where they are someone on another thread is thinking: who,what!? anyway it's still early for me so i'll be back with those stories. i also told cyberspace the following: i will be doing a chapter post called "bedtime stories". there will be namechanges to protect the "innocent" and their privacy. you are smart people,,you'll get it. that doesn't mean it actually happened the chapters in the story are only fiction.
come back later to read two stories i posted last night about artpal that apprently never made it
later

bassdame said:

sweeeeet. bass, u and art need to write a book! the knowledge yall have about music, the industry and the goings on @ pasiley is amazing

bassdame said:

About moi?

Wait a minute - are these stories I didn't remember? ? ?

artpal in part one told you a story about jerome..not quite accurate. jerome was already a friend of mine from the flytyme experience (before the p thing i had a production deal w/ ft. we were the group called mercedes!) anyway we were talking about the p project i was a part of and i mentioned my friend from dc came with me and she was our musical director. he wanted to meet her, and as if on cue the people parted (as in red sea), and there stood artpal. teetering back and forthmmmmm anyway he freaks out and runs to her with the words oh what a beautiful china doll. well our girl was out of it jerome suggests we all go for a ride. i'm like okay. he looks at me over the little ones head as if i had just hit him. well i would take both of you however my car is a two seater, so i'll just take artpal! well since i was the one responsible for getting her to mn, there was no way i was going to let that happen. shoot..it might've been days before she surfaced and she probably would be calling from tahiti and totally wondering how she got there, needless to say i had to shut that down..sorry jerome

i'll give you a second story about artpal later..now let's begin our bedtime story series: the plane landed and she couldn't believe that she was finally here the mecca..after all the years of gigging in her hometown, dreaming of this day, it was almost too much to bear. she began to think back to how it all started.....her name is vive..viva la saint. the day she heard christophe on the radio she knew her life would never be the same. how was it possible for another person to know her thoughts so well and put them in words and add music, music that her heart had always heard. this frightened her so much that she considered the fact that maybe she was yearning so hard for the manifestaion of her soul in lyrics and music that perhaps she had somehow entered the twilight zone...2 b contd