but really Mani seems to make Prince happy and is probably more mature than Mayte...don't get me wrong I LOVE Mayte...but she was sixteen when she met him so I think Prince just kinda molded her and then threw her away when she wanted to become her own person...Mani was kinda already her own person when she met him and seems to be more self assured so maybe that makes me feel Prince has matured a little when it comes to women..

Krystal666 said:

I would have to agree with you on this. It just doesn't feel right to cheer this sort of thing. It is like taking pleasure, humor etc in someone else's grief and hurt. (Mayte's). I just don't feel right in my conscience to give this a thumbs up.

KaleidoscopeEyes said:

Well I was making light of it...but really Mani seems to make Prince happy and is probably more mature than Mayte...don't get me wrong I LOVE Mayte...but she was sixteen when she met him so I think Prince just kinda molded her and then threw her away when she wanted to become her own person...Mani was kinda already her own person when she met him and seems to be more self assured so maybe that makes me feel Prince has matured a little when it comes to women...but :Mani does seem to make Prince happy I applaude her for living my dream...I wanted to marry Prince since I was twelve years old and she went and made it happen for herself so I really congradulate her for going after what she wants. I don't know how she did it but it worked!!! Your a rock star Mani!

KaleidoscopeEyes said:

RUMOURS

Oh heck it's a picture of them applauding. Unless the people in the background are "mirroring" them also.

What you can deduce from this picture is that someone on stage probably did/said something that made them want to clap.

Is prince praying? That pic looks scary

Smooches;)

MsMisha319 said:

No, he's just pretending to care about whoever he's clapping for.

Krystal666 said:

First of all, I think it's slightly disturbing that Prince is discussed as if he was some kind of trophy or prize that Mani ultimately "won". That attitude really typifies stalkerish/obsessive mentality if you ask me - as though the object of the obsession is a "thing" to "get" at all costs.

I've read before that people who knew Mani in college described her fixation on Prince as an "obsession" and that PRince was all she ever talked about.

To be that fixated on another human being - someone whom you don't even know and have never even met - and fixated enough that you'll go to the extreme of rearranging your entire life around that person and deliberating creating situations where you'll be able to be around that person, etc IS stalkerish behavior. Especially so, too, when you take into consideration Prince was ALREADY A MARRIED MAN. I won't even go into my thoughts on if the rumors are true about Mani involving herself into Prince and Mayte's marriage...

All I know is I'd be creeped out if someone - WHO DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ME NOR HAD EVEN EVER MET NOR SPOKEN TO ME BEFORE - decided they were going to pick up and move 100s of miles away from their home just to be closer to me, got a job near me/with me/in my same place of business just so they could be around me, and had a fixation on me to the point their peers and friends perceived it as an "obsession". That's bizarre behavior, sorry.

Lastly, and speaking for myself, I'm hardly jealous of anyone who would behave in such a way - and especially if the whispers and rumors about Mani being involved in Prince while he was still married to Mayte are true. Maybe some don't have issues with infidelity or sneaking around behind another woman's back with her man, but I have no respect for someone who'd wilingly become involved with a married peson.
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You are right on! Moving to MN from Canada was a high-stakes move. I wonder how many people do that, hoping they'll score a job at PP. They must reject A LOT of people. How did she sashay in there and close the deal? I know Mani is very attractive, but there are a lot of fine women who've done what she did and came up short. And it's not like Prince is conducting the interviews. I wonder if he's instructed the screeners to employ a "good looks" policy.

altavista said:

You've got it exactly right. Prince has always had "screeners," a main bodyguard or assistant who decides who gets to meet Prince and who doesn't. I'm sure that Mani was well aware that she has the "good looks" that would get her past the bodyguards at Paisley Park. I've been to celebrations at PP and I've been to Prince afterparties in different cities. Plenty of women have tried to get into VIP party rooms were Prince was, or stood in long lines trying to get into a club, and they didn't make it because they didn't have the "good looks" that would get them past the bodyguards.

Mani knew she had the looks that Prince prefers, so it wasn't that big of a risk for her to pull up stakes and move to MN.

He looks like he respects and admires her alot...but I don't see intense sexual chemistry like I saw with Mayte.

Oh heck it's a picture of them applauding. Unless the people in the background are "mirroring" them also.

What you can deduce from this picture is that someone on stage probably did/said something that made them want to clap.

altavista said:

You've got it exactly right. Prince has always had "screeners," a main bodyguard or assistant who decides who gets to meet Prince and who doesn't. I'm sure that Mani was well aware that she has the "good looks" that would get her past the bodyguards at Paisley Park. I've been to celebrations at PP and I've been to Prince afterparties in different cities. Plenty of women have tried to get into VIP party rooms were Prince was, or stood in long lines trying to get into a club, and they didn't make it because they didn't have the "good looks" that would get them past the bodyguards.

Mani knew she had the looks that Prince prefers, so it wasn't that big of a risk for her to pull up stakes and move to MN.

Batdance said:

Consider the fact that you can walk down Broadway in NYC on any given day and see women who look just like her. It took balls to think that she would be the one.

altavista said:

I agree that it did take "balls" for Mani to think that she would be the one. But at the same time, I still don't think she took any big risk. A person has to have the "balls," or courage, to go after what they want in life. But they also have to be realistic.

I've seen women making fools of themselves trying to be noticed by Prince. Most of these women have the "balls" to try to get noticed, but at the same time, they are not being realistic or real about themselves. Prince has a certain type of woman that he prefers, and women who don't fit that type have zero reason to think they could be his woman.

Mani had the balls to try, and she was his type of girl. Other girls may have the balls to try, but they don't have the looks. It's not a big risk for someone who has the balls, plus the looks, to put herself out there so she'll be noticed.

I'm starting to ramble, but I hope the point I'm trying to make is making sense

Batdance said:

Please understand what I'm trying to say here. Mani's situation is pure luck. Maybe I'm more sensitive to this kind of thing because I'm from NY. Trust me when I telll you that rhere are a lot of gutsy, beautiful women out there who are P's type and who have a lot of reason to believe they would have a shot with him. That look is not that uncommon as you seem to think it is. Neither is Mayte's. Come on down if you don't believe me.

I think a good parallel is the modiling industry. There are a lot of gutsy, gorgeous women who want to be models and I do mean a lot. The streets are littered with them. I know a few. Yes, it takes guts to put yourself out there, but it takes luck for anything to actually happen. Even if you are exactly someone's type. Good for Mani, though. Her stars were aligned.

As for you and I, we can agree to disagree.

Batdance said:

Please understand what I'm trying to say here. Mani's situation is pure luck. Maybe I'm more sensitive to this kind of thing because I'm from NY. Trust me when I telll you that rhere are a lot of gutsy, beautiful women out there who are P's type and who have a lot of reason to believe they would have a shot with him. That look is not that uncommon as you seem to think it is. Neither is Mayte's. Come on down if you don't believe me.

I think a good parallel is the modiling industry. There are a lot of gutsy, gorgeous women who want to be models and I do mean a lot. The streets are littered with them. I know a few. Yes, it takes guts to put yourself out there, but it takes luck for anything to actually happen. Even if you are exactly someone's type. Good for Mani, though. Her stars were aligned.

As for you and I, we can agree to disagree.

altavista said:

Actually, I think that you're BOTH onto something. Yes there are plenty of girls walking the streets of New York with the Mani/Mayte flava- I've seen 'em too, but from what I've seen in MPLS, girls with the kind of exoticism the Mani/Mayte have stand out a bit more there(I suppose because there aren't as many of them). From the times I've been in MPLS most of the more exotic women I'd seen were native American or Ethiopian/Somalian...and friends there have told me that there was a time when Minneapolis just seemed so homogenous, what few ethnicities they did have there would stick out like a sore thumb. To some degree I can very well imagine how someone with the Mani/Mayte look could stand out in the Twin Cities...and then of course you are dead on about good fortune having a lot to do with it, too. However, I don't think it hurt Mrs. Prince II to not only have the looks and luck in her favor, but also a purpose and a PLAN !

I accidentally came across a picture of the two of them of January '05. Look at the body language. A tell-tale sign of people liking each other is that they "mirror" each other's body language. Look at them. Look at how they are both leaning into one another. I think they must be perfectly happy together.

Krystal666 said:

First of all, I think it's slightly disturbing that Prince is discussed as if he was some kind of trophy or prize that Mani ultimately "won". That attitude really typifies stalkerish/obsessive mentality if you ask me - as though the object of the obsession is a "thing" to "get" at all costs.

I've read before that people who knew Mani in college described her fixation on Prince as an "obsession" and that PRince was all she ever talked about.

To be that fixated on another human being - someone whom you don't even know and have never even met - and fixated enough that you'll go to the extreme of rearranging your entire life around that person and deliberating creating situations where you'll be able to be around that person, etc IS stalkerish behavior. Especially so, too, when you take into consideration Prince was ALREADY A MARRIED MAN. I won't even go into my thoughts on if the rumors are true about Mani involving herself into Prince and Mayte's marriage...

All I know is I'd be creeped out if someone - WHO DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ME NOR HAD EVEN EVER MET NOR SPOKEN TO ME BEFORE - decided they were going to pick up and move 100s of miles away from their home just to be closer to me, got a job near me/with me/in my same place of business just so they could be around me, and had a fixation on me to the point their peers and friends perceived it as an "obsession". That's bizarre behavior, sorry.

Lastly, and speaking for myself, I'm hardly jealous of anyone who would behave in such a way - and especially if the whispers and rumors about Mani being involved in Prince while he was still married to Mayte are true. Maybe some don't have issues with infidelity or sneaking around behind another woman's back with her man, but I have no respect for someone who'd wilingly become involved with a married peson.
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