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Thread started 04/23/05 8:50am

OnionJuice

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IS Prince on bad terms with anybody?

Out of all of his ex-bandmembers and ex-girlfriends, who all aint on so well terms with him?
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Reply #1 posted 04/23/05 9:24am

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I don't know. It would probably be Andre Cymone and Jesse Johnson.
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Reply #2 posted 04/23/05 9:57am

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He seems to have made up with Wendy but I wonder about Lisa? Gilbert Davidson might be another one as well.I think for the most part, they all mostly just don't keep in touch and move on with their lives.
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Reply #3 posted 04/23/05 10:03am

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I dont think there's any love lost between him and St Paul..... wink
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Reply #4 posted 04/23/05 10:22am

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You would hope most everyone who did have differences would have put it behind by now. Some of the names mentioned goes back an awful lot of years...
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Reply #5 posted 04/23/05 10:58am

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sitruk7 said:

He seems to have made up with Wendy but I wonder about Lisa? Gilbert Davidson might be another one as well.I think for the most part, they all mostly just don't keep in touch and move on with their lives.


Makes me wonder about Susannah while we are mentioning the girls hmmm
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Reply #6 posted 04/23/05 12:23pm

Hotlegs

vainandy said:

I don't know. It would probably be Andre Cymone and Jesse Johnson.

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Reply #7 posted 04/23/05 2:27pm

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How did he fall out with those people?
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Reply #8 posted 04/24/05 9:20am

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OnionJuice said:

How did he fall out with those people?


Andre's family basically took Prince in when he was a kid, and Prince and Andre always jammed together and made a lot of music together. Andre was a part of Prince's for his first few albums, and a lot of his ideas from their jams were used by Prince. However he gradually became more and more jealous of the attention Prince was recieving and how big he was becoming, so he left the band. I don't think he is on bad terms with Prince though.

According to some peoples reports, Prince has said that Jesse Johnson is the only guitarist he's afraid of. Jesse (as well as the rest of The Time) felt creatively stifled because Prince insisted on writing and producing all of their material himself. On tour together there was always a big rivalry between the Revolution and the Time (despite the fact that Prince was writing all of the music!) and one time there was a massive food fight between the two, during this, Prince pulled Jesse off stage and handcuffed him to the coast rails in the dressing room, and jumped onto the stage with the time, taking jesse's place... i think jesse was always pissed off about that...

also jesse was putting out his solo album called "shockadelica"... but that was just the album name, he didnt have a tune called "shockadelica".... prince told him that all albums with a great title should have a great title tune....

so prince wrote his own song called "shockadelica" and put it out on a b-side.... jesse got pissed off because when his album came out, everyone thought he took the name from prince, rather than the other way around.
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Reply #9 posted 04/24/05 9:41am

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Militant said:

OnionJuice said:

How did he fall out with those people?


Andre's family basically took Prince in when he was a kid, and Prince and Andre always jammed together and made a lot of music together. Andre was a part of Prince's for his first few albums, and a lot of his ideas from their jams were used by Prince. However he gradually became more and more jealous of the attention Prince was recieving and how big he was becoming, so he left the band. I don't think he is on bad terms with Prince though.

According to some peoples reports, Prince has said that Jesse Johnson is the only guitarist he's afraid of. Jesse (as well as the rest of The Time) felt creatively stifled because Prince insisted on writing and producing all of their material himself. On tour together there was always a big rivalry between the Revolution and the Time (despite the fact that Prince was writing all of the music!) and one time there was a massive food fight between the two, during this, Prince pulled Jesse off stage and handcuffed him to the coast rails in the dressing room, and jumped onto the stage with the time, taking jesse's place... i think jesse was always pissed off about that...

also jesse was putting out his solo album called "shockadelica"... but that was just the album name, he didnt have a tune called "shockadelica".... prince told him that all albums with a great title should have a great title tune....

so prince wrote his own song called "shockadelica" and put it out on a b-side.... jesse got pissed off because when his album came out, everyone thought he took the name from prince, rather than the other way around.


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Reply #10 posted 04/24/05 10:05am

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Heat with Andre may have got squashed when Andre had a hit from Prince's The Dance Electric.P also paid respect to Andre's mom in The Sacrifice of Victor.

I wonder if Cat still has bad feelings toward Prince. She struck me as a bit jealous of P's marriage with Mayte after his Interview magazine interview with Spike Lee.
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Reply #11 posted 04/24/05 12:59pm

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Militant said:

Andre's family basically took Prince in when he was a kid, and Prince and Andre always jammed together and made a lot of music together. Andre was a part of Prince's for his first few albums, and a lot of his ideas from their jams were used by Prince. However he gradually became more and more jealous of the attention Prince was recieving and how big he was becoming, so he left the band. I don't think he is on bad terms with Prince though.


He was tired of Prince stealing and not giving him credit.
[Edited 4/24/05 13:00pm]
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Reply #12 posted 04/24/05 1:10pm

Hotlegs

vainandy said:

Militant said:

Andre's family basically took Prince in when he was a kid, and Prince and Andre always jammed together and made a lot of music together. Andre was a part of Prince's for his first few albums, and a lot of his ideas from their jams were used by Prince. However he gradually became more and more jealous of the attention Prince was recieving and how big he was becoming, so he left the band. I don't think he is on bad terms with Prince though.


He was tired of Prince stealing and not giving him credit.
[Edited 4/24/05 13:00pm]

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Reply #13 posted 04/24/05 5:26pm

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Averett said:

sitruk7 said:

He seems to have made up with Wendy but I wonder about Lisa? Gilbert Davidson might be another one as well.I think for the most part, they all mostly just don't keep in touch and move on with their lives.


Makes me wonder about Susannah while we are mentioning the girls hmmm



Sus went with Wendy to the aftershow that Wendy jammed at. the person i wonder about is Lisa. she has yet to "kick it" with prince...well, one that we are aware of.

yet all the times that wendy (and sus) have made an effort to re-connect (in public) with prince, lisa didnt participate.
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Reply #14 posted 04/24/05 8:23pm

Averett

sosgemini said:

Averett said:



Makes me wonder about Susannah while we are mentioning the girls hmmm



Sus went with Wendy to the aftershow that Wendy jammed at. the person i wonder about is Lisa. she has yet to "kick it" with prince...well, one that we are aware of.

yet all the times that wendy (and sus) have made an effort to re-connect (in public) with prince, lisa didnt participate.


Hmmmm.... interesting observation hmmm I now share your cusriousity. Lisa's extensive history with Prince may have lent itself to deeper feelings of hurt than that of Wendy, the relative newcomer of the group.
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Reply #15 posted 04/24/05 9:46pm

Hotlegs

Averett said:

sosgemini said:




Sus went with Wendy to the aftershow that Wendy jammed at. the person i wonder about is Lisa. she has yet to "kick it" with prince...well, one that we are aware of.

yet all the times that wendy (and sus) have made an effort to re-connect (in public) with prince, lisa didnt participate.


Hmmmm.... interesting observation hmmm I now share your cusriousity. Lisa's extensive history with Prince may have lent itself to deeper feelings of hurt than that of Wendy, the relative newcomer of the group.
[Edited 4/24/05 20:24pm]


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Reply #16 posted 04/25/05 12:09am

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OnionJuice said:

Out of all of his ex-bandmembers and ex-girlfriends, who all aint on so well terms with him?


Mayte?
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Reply #17 posted 04/25/05 12:11am

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vainandy said:

I don't know. It would probably be Andre Cymone and Jesse Johnson.


I think Andre Cymone hates Prince way more!
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Reply #18 posted 04/25/05 12:13am

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sitruk7 said:

He seems to have made up with Wendy but I wonder about Lisa? Gilbert Davidson might be another one as well.I think for the most part, they all mostly just don't keep in touch and move on with their lives.


Unlike Wendy, Lisa wouldn't want to do music with Prince again unless the circumstances in the way he does business change.
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Reply #19 posted 04/25/05 12:19am

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Militant said:

OnionJuice said:

How did he fall out with those people?


Andre's family basically took Prince in when he was a kid, and Prince and Andre always jammed together and made a lot of music together. Andre was a part of Prince's for his first few albums, and a lot of his ideas from their jams were used by Prince. However he gradually became more and more jealous of the attention Prince was recieving and how big he was becoming, so he left the band. I don't think he is on bad terms with Prince though.

According to some peoples reports, Prince has said that Jesse Johnson is the only guitarist he's afraid of. Jesse (as well as the rest of The Time) felt creatively stifled because Prince insisted on writing and producing all of their material himself. On tour together there was always a big rivalry between the Revolution and the Time (despite the fact that Prince was writing all of the music!) and one time there was a massive food fight between the two, during this, Prince pulled Jesse off stage and handcuffed him to the coast rails in the dressing room, and jumped onto the stage with the time, taking jesse's place... i think jesse was always pissed off about that...

also jesse was putting out his solo album called "shockadelica"... but that was just the album name, he didnt have a tune called "shockadelica".... prince told him that all albums with a great title should have a great title tune....

so prince wrote his own song called "shockadelica" and put it out on a b-side.... jesse got pissed off because when his album came out, everyone thought he took the name from prince, rather than the other way around.


Prince wanted Jesse to write a title track for Shockadelica. Jesse rejected the idea.

Sad. Just Sad.
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Reply #20 posted 04/25/05 12:25am

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sitruk7 said:

Heat with Andre may have got squashed when Andre had a hit from Prince's The Dance Electric.P also paid respect to Andre's mom in The Sacrifice of Victor.

I wonder if Cat still has bad feelings toward Prince. She struck me as a bit jealous of P's marriage with Mayte after his Interview magazine interview with Spike Lee.


Cat did tell Prince & Mayte that she was happy for the both of them.

But Cat also told Prince that as a dancer, Mayte would never be as special to him as she (Cat) was in his life.

Prince still think that incident was funny!
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Reply #21 posted 04/25/05 10:29am

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Hotlegs said:

Averett said:



Hmmmm.... interesting observation hmmm I now share your cusriousity. Lisa's extensive history with Prince may have lent itself to deeper feelings of hurt than that of Wendy, the relative newcomer of the group.
[Edited 4/24/05 20:24pm]


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O-kay, "Miss Co-Signer". lol
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Reply #22 posted 04/25/05 11:48am

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The question should be is Prince on GOOD terms with anybody? lol lol lol
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Reply #23 posted 04/25/05 12:55pm

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BlaqueKnight said:

The question should be is Prince on GOOD terms with anybody? lol lol lol


Clive Davis? Undecided
Mayte? Yes (he loves her like a baby sister) and No (because she cheated on him first)
Jesse Johnson? No (Prince still fears him?!?)
Rick James? Yes (at least Rick like Musicology!!!)
Wendy Melvoin? Yes
Lisa Coleman? Undecided
Alexander O'Neal? Yes (Alexander confirm this in a 2004 interview)
Rosie Gaines? No (Prince still owe her more money?)
The WB Music Group? No (they still have the master tapes!!!)


...am I missing anyone else???
[Edited 4/25/05 12:56pm]
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Reply #24 posted 04/25/05 1:03pm

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I really think that at the age of 46, Prince, with his religion and lifestyle, has let bygones be bygones. What is the point of being on bad terms with anybody? You saw the turnout at the Family Jamm, you saw the extras on the "Purple Rain" DVD with the Revolution, and Jesse himself has said that all is well. I believe Prince has let his ego down enough where all that has become irrelevant and over with.
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Reply #25 posted 04/25/05 3:56pm

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TonyVanDam said:

BlaqueKnight said:

The question should be is Prince on GOOD terms with anybody? lol lol lol


Clive Davis? Undecided
Mayte? Yes (he loves her like a baby sister) and No (because she cheated on him first)
Jesse Johnson? No (Prince still fears him?!?)
Rick James? Yes (at least Rick like Musicology!!!)
Wendy Melvoin? Yes
Lisa Coleman? Undecided
Alexander O'Neal? Yes (Alexander confirm this in a 2004 interview)
Rosie Gaines? No (Prince still owe her more money?)
The WB Music Group? No (they still have the master tapes!!!)



...am I missing anyone else???
[Edited 4/25/05 12:56pm]


Aw man, come on! Can't anyone around here take a joke?
[Edited 4/25/05 15:57pm]
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Reply #26 posted 04/25/05 5:21pm

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BlaqueKnight said:

TonyVanDam said:



Clive Davis? Undecided
Mayte? Yes (he loves her like a baby sister) and No (because she cheated on him first)
Jesse Johnson? No (Prince still fears him?!?)
Rick James? Yes (at least Rick like Musicology!!!)
Wendy Melvoin? Yes
Lisa Coleman? Undecided
Alexander O'Neal? Yes (Alexander confirm this in a 2004 interview)
Rosie Gaines? No (Prince still owe her more money?)
The WB Music Group? No (they still have the master tapes!!!)



...am I missing anyone else???
[Edited 4/25/05 12:56pm]


Aw man, come on! Can't anyone around here take a joke?
[Edited 4/25/05 15:57pm]


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Reply #27 posted 04/25/05 10:10pm

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BlaqueKnight said:

TonyVanDam said:



Clive Davis? Undecided
Mayte? Yes (he loves her like a baby sister) and No (because she cheated on him first)
Jesse Johnson? No (Prince still fears him?!?)
Rick James? Yes (at least Rick like Musicology!!!)
Wendy Melvoin? Yes
Lisa Coleman? Undecided
Alexander O'Neal? Yes (Alexander confirm this in a 2004 interview)
Rosie Gaines? No (Prince still owe her more money?)
The WB Music Group? No (they still have the master tapes!!!)



...am I missing anyone else???
[Edited 4/25/05 12:56pm]


Aw man, come on! Can't anyone around here take a joke?
[Edited 4/25/05 15:57pm]



Unless you said so beforehand, no. wink
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Reply #28 posted 04/26/05 6:51am

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Sorry. I thought the lol lol lol indicated that. I'll try to be clearer next time.
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Reply #29 posted 04/26/05 2:39pm

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TonyVanDam said:

BlaqueKnight said:

The question should be is Prince on GOOD terms with anybody? lol lol lol


Clive Davis? Undecided
Mayte? Yes (he loves her like a baby sister) and No (because she cheated on him first)
Jesse Johnson? No (Prince still fears him?!?)
Rick James? Yes (at least Rick like Musicology!!!)
Wendy Melvoin? Yes
Lisa Coleman? Undecided
Alexander O'Neal? Yes (Alexander confirm this in a 2004 interview)
Rosie Gaines? No (Prince still owe her more money?)
The WB Music Group? No (they still have the master tapes!!!)


...am I missing anyone else???
[Edited 4/25/05 12:56pm]


Rick liked Musicology? when did he comment about it? that's interesting considering Rick has despised prince and from what I heard was bad-mouthing him to the end.
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