that "shockadelica"-issue is quite funny: did prince title that b-side b4 jesse's album release? and if yes, was it cuz jesse had that collab with sly stone? i think prince never got any work with sly, right?

newpower4ever said:

Fambot, Jimmy & Terry are producers. They are not performing artists. You're not SUPPOSED to know where they are. They are behind artists, where hitmakers belong.

newpower4ever said:

Fambot, Jimmy & Terry are producers. They are not performing artists. You're not SUPPOSED to know where they are. They are behind artists, where hitmakers belong.

blackguitaristz said:

How ridiculous is the premise of causing someone bodily harm over a peice of tape? I love Jesse but he worked for Prince. The reason that anyone had even heard of him was due to Prince. If he wants to erase tape, he can do it. He's Prince. You're not. It was and is that simple.

sextonseven said:

I don't know! I know Jessie's solo is long, but Morris said Jessie really wanted to showcase his guitar playing on "Jungle Love" since P never really allowed Jessie to touch any of the other Time's songs. So, I know Jessie wanted to kinda get revenge on P because of that shit. And then to learn that P ERASED some of it! Jessie was really angry. I know Jessie is short too, about 5'6. But, Jessie, I think would have really hurt P if he had got loose. But, I know P was a rough dude too. That shit would have been "on"!

DonSpectrofuzz said:

The story is, Jesse had told Prince about his new album (Shockadelica) and Jesse told him the title of the album. Prince asked to hear the title cut and Jesse said there wasn't one. Prince couldn't believe that Jesse had a tight-ass album title like "Shockadelica" but didn't have a SINGLE FROM THE SAME NAME. So Prince -- JUST TO FUCK WITH JESSE -- Killer B'd him with "Shockadelica"...and Jesse was PISSSSSED! LOL! So I think that's where some of the beef stems from.

Eroticist said:

In this case,I think Prince had a point.How the hell are you gonna call your album something fun and exciting like 'Shocakadelica' and NOT come up with a kickass title track? Jesse could have easily wrote a slammin' funk jam with that title.

blackguitaristz said:

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The Time was not a rock band. They were in RnB band. I am not doubting P may have been jelous but 2 minutes is enough.

BlaqueKnight said:

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Well they are not really doing well right now. Damita Jo was the biggest bomb of last year.

laurarichardson said:

Well, I don't think there's anyone on this site that has ever thought of The Time as a rock band. But, P's "rock" solo on "Get It Up" is quite long for a "r&b" song, as well as P's "rock" solo on "777-9311". So, Jessie having a solo on "Jungle Love" certainly wasn't out of step from what had already been presented. Besides, I have never considered The Time as an "r&b" band. They were a funk band.

laurarichardson said:

Jam & Lewis are doing well with the new Usher album.

DavidEye said:

Eroticist said:

I bet he was pissed and we all know how jealous he can get.

DavidEye said:

So you know how pissed he was when he saw Sly doing a song with Jesse.

sextonseven said:

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Do you really think the Usher CD is something to proud of ?

laurarichardson said:

I didn't say it was. You said Jam & Lewis weren't doing well and I pointed out they are most likely making lots of money off their tracks on Usher's latest album. It sounds like they are doing well to me.

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How child like is an argument like this at this point? Why does it matter? I love most of the Prince associates (I even like some of Wendy and Lisa) but the fact that Prince relaly doesnt need any of them has been obviously for years. The fact that Prince is still the only person that anyone knows or cares about some 20 years after the Purple Rain breakthrough proves this point.

blackguitaristz said:

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I know they are a funk band and I knew a lot of people back in the day who did not like the guitar on Get It UP or 777-9311. I don't have to tell you how an African-American audience can get when they hear a little too much guitar.
I don't have an issue with it but, maybe P really wanted The Time to be more of an RnB act at the PR era. So he could keep his foot on the RnB side of things.

laurarichardson said:

Well, I don't think there's anyone on this site that has ever thought of The Time as a rock band. But, P's "rock" solo on "Get It Up" is quite long for a "r&b" song, as well as P's "rock" solo on "777-9311". So, Jessie having a solo on "Jungle Love" certainly wasn't out of step from what had already been presented. Besides, I have never considered The Time as an "r&b" band. They were a funk band.

laurarichardson said:

Hold up now, I don't think that you are speaking for the majority of Black audiences. Keep in mind that alot of Black audience bought records by Isley Brothers and Funkadelic which incorporated hellified guitar solos. So, if anything, the guitar solos in a funk jam wasn't an issue. Ask some us Old Schoolers about cuts like Maggot Brain by Funkadelic, Who's That Lady by the lsleys and this is just for starters b/c I could go on and on.

How ridiculous is the premise of causing someone bodily harm over a peice of tape? I love Jesse but he worked for Prince. The reason that anyone had even heard of him was due to Prince. If he wants to erase tape, he can do it. He's Prince. You're not. It was and is that simple.

laurarichardson said:

Hold up now, I don't think that you are speaking for the majority of Black audiences. Keep in mind that alot of Black audience bought records by Isley Brothers and Funkadelic which incorporated hellified guitar solos. So, if anything, the guitar solos in a funk jam wasn't an issue. Ask some us Old Schoolers about cuts like Maggot Brain by Funkadelic, Who's That Lady by the lsleys and this is just for starters b/c I could go on and on.

Hotlegs said:

musicologist said:

What a ridiculously insensitive idolworshipping statement to make. You don't fuck with an artist's art without at least speaking to him about it first. There is a way to do something. Being rude and crass ain't the way. The fact that Prince ERASED parts instead of muting them shows that he was jealous of Jesse. Jesse would wax that ass on guitar every time and Prince knows it. Even now, Prince is not on Jesse's level in my opinion. Prince seems to hate to see certain people get props.

Hotlegs said:

Thank you, sista.