laurarichardson said: sosgemini said: her delusions... [Edited 2/4/05 15:11pm] ----- Well maybe it was in my dreams when I read about this on Prince.org. Just because you are the moderator it does not make you a know it all. I will see if I can find something on the web and post it. Get off your hero worship and get in touch with reality people use drugs.(LOL) Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: laurarichardson said: ----- Well maybe it was in my dreams when I read about this on Prince.org. Just because you are the moderator it does not make you a know it all. I will see if I can find something on the web and post it. Get off your hero worship and get in touch with reality people use drugs.(LOL) ----- Funny how you don't have much to say about Mr. Johnson and his gun antics. | |
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laurarichardson said:[quote] sosgemini said: [Edited 2/4/05 15:11pm] ----- Nothing in here about drugs but he does talk about lying under his ex's car with a gun. Does not say that he went to jail for doing this but from what I have read he did and the story goes that this was due to drugs. I'd already read the article you posted a long time ago. Again...I've followed his career pretty closely. "Total Druggie" sounds as if you're making a personal assertion about the cat with out backing it up with anything factual to support your claim. Could his actions have been as the result of drug use? Maybe... but you can't say this with any certainty since you didn't witness these acts or have any intimate knowledge of what led up to it. Besides, I thought the main thrust of the thread was what one thought of Jesse in the musical sense. Of course I'd like him to be happy & healhty, but what he does or doesn't do or his personal habits are really his business! It's always been about the music for me. I've been playing guitar a long time now & Jesse's music along with Prince stuff were initial sources of inspiration. Peace -K- [Edited 2/8/05 11:03am] | |
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kstrat said:[quote] laurarichardson said: sosgemini said: [Edited 2/4/05 15:11pm] ----- Nothing in here about drugs but he does talk about lying under his ex's car with a gun. Does not say that he went to jail for doing this but from what I have read he did and the story goes that this was due to drugs. I'd already read the article you posted a long time ago. Again...I've followed his career pretty closely. "Total Druggie" sounds as if you're making a personal assertion about the cat with out backing it up with anything factual to support your claim. Could his actions have been as the result of drug use? Maybe... but you can't say this with any certainty since you didn't witness these acts or have any intimate knowledge of what led up to it. Besides, I thought the main thrust of the thread was what one thought of Jesse in the musical sense. Of course I'd like him to be happy & healhty, but what he does or doesn't do or his personal habits are really his business! It's always been about the music for me. I've been playing guitar a long time now & Jesse's music along with Prince stuff were initial sources of inspiration. Peace -K- [Edited 2/8/05 11:03am] ----- I think Jesse is great too. I just don't think he is better than Prince. Unfortunatly, one's personal habits can effect their ability to perform. He is a talented guy who is not productive and due to some comments by other orgers it may be due to drugs. Anyway I am not delusional as the all knowing moderator seems to think I am. | |
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laurarichardson said: Anyway I am not delusional as the all knowing moderator seems to think I am. be careful..your gonna get ulcers if you take everything soo serious.. Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: laurarichardson said: Anyway I am not delusional as the all knowing moderator seems to think I am. be careful..your gonna get ulcers if you take everything soo serious.. ----- I think we know who takes themselves to seriously on this board. | |
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laurarichardson said: sosgemini said: be careful..your gonna get ulcers if you take everything soo serious.. ----- I think we know who takes themselves to seriously on this board. Space for sale... | |
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Personally, Jesse Johnson sounds like a conceited, arrogant, blank blank. I will admit that he is talented, but as Laura stated, one "personal habits" could prevent them from becoming productive and successful...Just my two cents. u & me, we got mad chemisty | |
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laurarichardson said: sosgemini said: be careful..your gonna get ulcers if you take everything soo serious.. ----- I think we know who takes themselves to seriously on this board. Good article on Jessie. I worked with Morris and Andre back in 95. A lot of what was mentioned in the article, Morris told me. Don't trip on what other's may think. At the end of the day, it won't hold salt anyways. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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blackguitaristz said: laurarichardson said: ----- I think we know who takes themselves to seriously on this board. Good article on Jessie. I worked with Morris and Andre back in 95. A lot of what was mentioned in the article, Morris told me. Don't trip on what other's may think. At the end of the day, it won't hold salt anyways. Exactly. | |
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blackguitaristz said: laurarichardson said: ----- I think we know who takes themselves to seriously on this board. Good article on Jessie. I worked with Morris and Andre back in 95. A lot of what was mentioned in the article, Morris told me. Don't trip on what other's may think. At the end of the day, it won't hold salt anyways. Nowadays, I like to keep my focus on an artist music plain & simple. As I've gotten older I've found that I've become less and less interested in their personal details. I'm not the least bit interested in elvaluating their lifestyles. I just want to enjoy some good music. What I don't get is how a conversation about digging Jesse's musical output degenerates in to a discussion about his personal business. It's as if you can't enjoy the music without some dirt being dished out. (Yea... he's cool BUT..., He' be more successful IF..., He's..blah..Blah.. blankety..blah) You're absolutely right @ the end of the day what you & I think really doesn't matter anyway. [Edited 2/9/05 8:48am] | |
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JJ is the baddest player out there! | |
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sluvah said: JJ is the baddest player out there!
You damn straight. | |
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kstrat said: laurarichardson said: ----- I don't know if P could feel threaten by a total druggie. I love Jesse but you can't beat showmanship. "Total Drugggie"??? Where's that commin' from? I know that in the past that Jesse's had some personal problems, which he's admitted to. I'm not aware that dope was one of them, and I've followed his solo career pretty closely from the onset. I ask again, where did you get this info? As far as his guitar playing goes Jesse is comming from out of a different space than Prince. I wouldn't go so far as to say one cat is better than the other, but in terms of pure balls, I prefer Jesse's playing. Also I could see myself talking shop with Jesse if I ever met him. Prince? Forget about it! Yes, drugs did STEAL the career away from Jessie. This is just another unfortunate example on how even genius can be robbed by that shit. This does not mean that he was a total druggie. That is a poor choice of words. Ms. Richardson, no disrespect intended, but you give far too many PERSONAL JUDGEMENTS, up in here. For whatever reason, this seems to happen quite often on these threads, with you "relaying" info on folks, based on YOUR agenda and views. This does not mean that Sogemini(supposed MODERATOR) is a saint either. You two fighting and arguing in here is really sickening and boring. Now back to point.....Jessie, was and IS a very fine musician who went down the wrong path of life. His PERSONAL decisions(drugs) were the MAIN reason why P resorted to public dissing of Jessie and his music. Both are fine guitarists, and should be collaborating as good 'ol boyz....whether this ever happens is the biggest question ever. "If you wanna feel the FUNK....then you have to know the SOUL!!!"-----(Up and Down...just like a seesaw, Back and Forth...oh girl I'm fallin) | |
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NPGman said: kstrat said: "Total Drugggie"??? Where's that commin' from? I know that in the past that Jesse's had some personal problems, which he's admitted to. I'm not aware that dope was one of them, and I've followed his solo career pretty closely from the onset. I ask again, where did you get this info? As far as his guitar playing goes Jesse is comming from out of a different space than Prince. I wouldn't go so far as to say one cat is better than the other, but in terms of pure balls, I prefer Jesse's playing. Also I could see myself talking shop with Jesse if I ever met him. Prince? Forget about it! Yes, drugs did STEAL the career away from Jessie. This is just another unfortunate example on how even genius can be robbed by that shit. This does not mean that he was a total druggie. That is a poor choice of words. Ms. Richardson, no disrespect intended, but you give far too many PERSONAL JUDGEMENTS, up in here. For whatever reason, this seems to happen quite often on these threads, with you "relaying" info on folks, based on YOUR agenda and views. This does not mean that Sogemini(supposed MODERATOR) is a saint either. You two fighting and arguing in here is really sickening and boring. Now back to point.....Jessie, was and IS a very fine musician who went down the wrong path of life. His PERSONAL decisions(drugs) were the MAIN reason why P resorted to public dissing of Jessie and his music. Both are fine guitarists, and should be collaborating as good 'ol boyz....whether this ever happens is the biggest question ever. Well Said NPG | |
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NPGman said: kstrat said: "Total Drugggie"??? Where's that commin' from? I know that in the past that Jesse's had some personal problems, which he's admitted to. I'm not aware that dope was one of them, and I've followed his solo career pretty closely from the onset. I ask again, where did you get this info? As far as his guitar playing goes Jesse is comming from out of a different space than Prince. I wouldn't go so far as to say one cat is better than the other, but in terms of pure balls, I prefer Jesse's playing. Also I could see myself talking shop with Jesse if I ever met him. Prince? Forget about it! Yes, drugs did STEAL the career away from Jessie. This is just another unfortunate example on how even genius can be robbed by that shit. This does not mean that he was a total druggie. That is a poor choice of words. Ms. Richardson, no disrespect intended, but you give far too many PERSONAL JUDGEMENTS, up in here. For whatever reason, this seems to happen quite often on these threads, with you "relaying" info on folks, based on YOUR agenda and views. This does not mean that Sogemini(supposed MODERATOR) is a saint either. You two fighting and arguing in here is really sickening and boring. Now back to point.....Jessie, was and IS a very fine musician who went down the wrong path of life. His PERSONAL decisions(drugs) were the MAIN reason why P resorted to public dissing of Jessie and his music. Both are fine guitarists, and should be collaborating as good 'ol boyz....whether this ever happens is the biggest question ever. for the record, i am not a moderator in this forum..i am just a participant just like everyone else...i have the right to call her statement delusional.....note: i did not once call her crazy..i was refering to her statement.....thats not personal. was it overboard? possibly.....but just like you felt the need to vent with your statement to her, so did i.. :mrgeen: [Edited 2/17/05 19:33pm] Space for sale... | |
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NPGman said: kstrat said: "Total Drugggie"??? Where's that commin' from? I know that in the past that Jesse's had some personal problems, which he's admitted to. I'm not aware that dope was one of them, and I've followed his solo career pretty closely from the onset. I ask again, where did you get this info? As far as his guitar playing goes Jesse is comming from out of a different space than Prince. I wouldn't go so far as to say one cat is better than the other, but in terms of pure balls, I prefer Jesse's playing. Also I could see myself talking shop with Jesse if I ever met him. Prince? Forget about it! Yes, drugs did STEAL the career away from Jessie. This is just another unfortunate example on how even genius can be robbed by that shit. This does not mean that he was a total druggie. That is a poor choice of words. Ms. Richardson, no disrespect intended, but you give far too many PERSONAL JUDGEMENTS, up in here. For whatever reason, this seems to happen quite often on these threads, with you "relaying" info on folks, based on YOUR agenda and views. This does not mean that Sogemini(supposed MODERATOR) is a saint either. You two fighting and arguing in here is really sickening and boring. Now back to point.....Jessie, was and IS a very fine musician who went down the wrong path of life. His PERSONAL decisions(drugs) were the MAIN reason why P resorted to public dissing of Jessie and his music. Both are fine guitarists, and should be collaborating as good 'ol boyz....whether this ever happens is the biggest question ever. ----- I am sorry all drug use is bad to me. This is just my opinion thus I called Mr. Johnson a druggie. If is drug problems led to holding his wife hostage, waving a gun around and wasting his talent I would catorize him as a total druggie. This is just what I think you don't have to agree and guess what the world will not come to an end (LOL). We can all agree to disagree. I never said Jesse was not a fine musician. As far as SOSGEMINI is concerned she claimed I was delisional. I went and found an article to back up my point. I don't want to bicker but, I don't like being called delisional when I can back up my point. I'll to keep my post civil but, I certainly will defend myself when I must. | |
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sosgemini said: NPGman said: Yes, drugs did STEAL the career away from Jessie. This is just another unfortunate example on how even genius can be robbed by that shit. This does not mean that he was a total druggie. That is a poor choice of words. Ms. Richardson, no disrespect intended, but you give far too many PERSONAL JUDGEMENTS, up in here. For whatever reason, this seems to happen quite often on these threads, with you "relaying" info on folks, based on YOUR agenda and views. This does not mean that Sogemini(supposed MODERATOR) is a saint either. You two fighting and arguing in here is really sickening and boring. Now back to point.....Jessie, was and IS a very fine musician who went down the wrong path of life. His PERSONAL decisions(drugs) were the MAIN reason why P resorted to public dissing of Jessie and his music. Both are fine guitarists, and should be collaborating as good 'ol boyz....whether this ever happens is the biggest question ever. for the record, i am not a moderator in this forum..i am just a participant just like everyone else...i have the right to call her statement delusional.....note: i did not once call her crazy..i was refering to her statement.....thats not personal. was it overboard? possibly.....but just like you felt the need to vent with your statement to her, so did i.. :mrgeen: [Edited 2/17/05 19:33pm] ----- You have a right to call me statement delusional. Only it was not I backed it up with the article. I have a right to my opinion and if I can back it up with facts then give me my props and get off my case. | |
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sluvah said: I like all of Jesse's albums. You can not sleep on "Bare My Naked Soul" He's truly an underrated musician and writer. For some reason P liked digging at him.
Because Jesse is Badd guitar player..... Gave Prince a run for his money..... | |
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I've ALWAYS said this, and some of y'all KNOW it's true. Jesse is JUST AS GOOD, if NOT BETTERTHAN PRINCE!!!!! Sure, Prince had all the "stroke", but I've seen The Time back in the day ('83 in Buffalo N.Y.), and Jesse f**cked s**t UP!!!! I remember his solo for "777-9311", and he was rolling around on the floor in that pink zoot suit just blazin'!!!!! I saw the Houston show of the same tour, and The Time killed Prince!!!! At one point during "The Walk" you could see Jesse look backstage & then just pull some s**t off that would only piss off Prince!!! AND: as much as Prince looked up to Sly, guess who got to work with him????? Y'all need to stop puttin' down Jesse & recognize. Yeah, he may have had some personal problems in the past, but I've seen his new guitar ad, & the man is still SMOKIN'!!
I've seen Morris Day & "part Time" lately. They STILL deliver the goods. But I'd almost give my right arm to hear these three words: "Cut 'em Jesse!!". And that's the quintessential truth.....RUTH!!!!! p.s.: Don't believe me???? Go back & listen to: a)Fool's Paradise b)Baby Let's Kiss c)Blondie d)Bare My Naked Soul-The Whole CD Jesse IS one of THE BEST proteges outta that whole scene!!! RECOGNIZE!!!!! | |
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woogiebear said: I've ALWAYS said this, and some of y'all KNOW it's true. Jesse is JUST AS GOOD, if NOT BETTERTHAN PRINCE!!!!! Sure, Prince had all the "stroke", but I've seen The Time back in the day ('83 in Buffalo N.Y.), and Jesse f**cked s**t UP!!!! I remember his solo for "777-9311", and he was rolling around on the floor in that pink zoot suit just blazin'!!!!! I saw the Houston show of the same tour, and The Time killed Prince!!!! At one point during "The Walk" you could see Jesse look backstage & then just pull some s**t off that would only piss off Prince!!! AND: as much as Prince looked up to Sly, guess who got to work with him????? Y'all need to stop puttin' down Jesse & recognize. Yeah, he may have had some personal problems in the past, but I've seen his new guitar ad, & the man is still SMOKIN'!!
I've seen Morris Day & "part Time" lately. They STILL deliver the goods. But I'd almost give my right arm to hear these three words: "Cut 'em Jesse!!". And that's the quintessential truth.....RUTH!!!!! p.s.: Don't believe me???? Go back & listen to: a)Fool's Paradise b)Baby Let's Kiss c)Blondie d)Bare My Naked Soul-The Whole CD Jesse IS one of THE BEST proteges outta that whole scene!!! RECOGNIZE!!!!! | |
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I agree Jesse is the baddest player pound for pound. Does anyone know his chart history? [Edited 2/20/05 11:52am] | |
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Jesse Rocked with I wanna be your man and Can you help me!! Ain't Nobody Bad, Like me! | |
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Hey, it seems like all of his albums except for his compilation are out of print. Where would I be able to find all of Jesse's albums? | |
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supppedup said: Hey, it seems like all of his albums except for his compilation are out of print. Where would I be able to find all of Jesse's albums?
You might want to try e-bay or one of those used cd shops thats where I'm looking. | |
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I always thought Jesse was a better guitarist than Prince. Prince has yet to equal up to some of the playing on "Bare My Naked Soul". As a soloist, Jesse seems to never run out of ideas, whereas Prince repeats himself a lot on guitar. Even though many on this site talk about how versatile Prince is on guitar, he definately doesn't have a limitless vocabulary within the scope of his versatility. I think Jesse is the one guy that threatened Prince the most at one point in his career because Jesse coulddo everything Prince did, so he didn't hold Prince in high regards like everyone else did. I think Prince was probably a little jealous of Jesse. I know it had to kill him when his idol Sly Stone came out of retirement, did a song with Jesse and disappeared back into the shadows. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: I always thought Jesse was a better guitarist than Prince. Prince has yet to equal up to some of the playing on "Bare My Naked Soul". As a soloist, Jesse seems to never run out of ideas, whereas Prince repeats himself a lot on guitar. Even though many on this site talk about how versatile Prince is on guitar, he definately doesn't have a limitless vocabulary within the scope of his versatility. I think Jesse is the one guy that threatened Prince the most at one point in his career because Jesse coulddo everything Prince did, so he didn't hold Prince in high regards like everyone else did. I think Prince was probably a little jealous of Jesse. I know it had to kill him when his idol Sly Stone came out of retirement, did a song with Jesse and disappeared back into the shadows.
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BlaqueKnight said: I always thought Jesse was a better guitarist than Prince. Prince has yet to equal up to some of the playing on "Bare My Naked Soul". As a soloist, Jesse seems to never run out of ideas, whereas Prince repeats himself a lot on guitar. Even though many on this site talk about how versatile Prince is on guitar, he definately doesn't have a limitless vocabulary within the scope of his versatility. I think Jesse is the one guy that threatened Prince the most at one point in his career because Jesse coulddo everything Prince did, so he didn't hold Prince in high regards like everyone else did. I think Prince was probably a little jealous of Jesse. I know it had to kill him when his idol Sly Stone came out of retirement, did a song with Jesse and disappeared back into the shadows.
Co-sign.....that solo on Love Struck was the TRUTH!!! | |
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Does anyone know his chart history? | |
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hey I didn't see this thread...I happen to be jamming to Shockadelica as I type...I had "Addiction" on repeat The Org is the short yellow bus of the Prince Internet fan community. | |
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