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Reply #30 posted 12/21/04 9:05pm

EverlastingNow

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psychodelicide said:

jazzy328is said:

I enjoyed the windy and lisa days, but I think the better music was made prior to them coming on board, The revolution before W & L was tighter, they could cover more and they all seemed to be like a hand and a glove. I love W & L, but they wasn't all that talented if you ask me, when they left and did their own thing, kind of boring, I could care less about their sexuality, and I don't think Dez was refering to that, I think he was refering to his playing ability and her's, it was a step down, (remember Prince did get rid of them).

Some act as if W & L is what made Prince, Now you know that is not the truth, Prince made W & L.


nod I agree, I never thought that Wendy and Lisa were all that either, contrary to popular opinion on this website. I have heard comments that Prince wrote better music when he was working with them, which is total censored. The people that Prince works with does not influence him, HE influences THEM.
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Prince did do more creative music when Wendy and Lisa were in the band as a whole, they were the best filter he's ever had. There was no Revolution before Wendy and Lisa, just a band, Bobby's even said that (Uptown magazine before someone asks). Wendy and Lisa are two of the most talented all the way around musicians he's had. Sure Wendy may not have had the chops that Dez or Mike Scott have but what she brought to the table was far greater. Has Prince picked up the phone to invite Dez to do anything??? No. Did he ask Wendy to play with him a few times this year, YES he did. Plus even when he's been asked who he'd have BACK in his band, he mentioned them first. So sure you don't have to think Wendy and Lisa were all that, but Prince does and that's what's important. As for your HE influences them, if that was true they would have stopped making music after they left. But they still put out great music and are seaked out by a lot of respected musicians. I don't mind reading someone's opinion but those two posts were just crap. Wendy a step down from Dez? That's pure comedy. She got to create a lot of music with Prince, some released some in the vault, plus he respected Wendy and Lisa enough to send them partial songs for them to finish. Dez never had that kind of trust from Prince, so there was no step down. I do like Dez however a lot, I actually seen Prince when Dez was in the band, but I just thought he sounded a little bitter in that interview.
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Reply #31 posted 12/22/04 4:21am

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EverlastingNow said:

psychodelicide said:



nod I agree, I never thought that Wendy and Lisa were all that either, contrary to popular opinion on this website. I have heard comments that Prince wrote better music when he was working with them, which is total censored. The people that Prince works with does not influence him, HE influences THEM.
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Prince did do more creative music when Wendy and Lisa were in the band as a whole, they were the best filter he's ever had. There was no Revolution before Wendy and Lisa, just a band, Bobby's even said that (Uptown magazine before someone asks). Wendy and Lisa are two of the most talented all the way around musicians he's had. Sure Wendy may not have had the chops that Dez or Mike Scott have but what she brought to the table was far greater. Has Prince picked up the phone to invite Dez to do anything??? No. Did he ask Wendy to play with him a few times this year, YES he did. Plus even when he's been asked who he'd have BACK in his band, he mentioned them first. So sure you don't have to think Wendy and Lisa were all that, but Prince does and that's what's important. As for your HE influences them, if that was true they would have stopped making music after they left. But they still put out great music and are seaked out by a lot of respected musicians. I don't mind reading someone's opinion but those two posts were just crap. Wendy a step down from Dez? That's pure comedy. She got to create a lot of music with Prince, some released some in the vault, plus he respected Wendy and Lisa enough to send them partial songs for them to finish. Dez never had that kind of trust from Prince, so there was no step down. I do like Dez however a lot, I actually seen Prince when Dez was in the band, but I just thought he sounded a little bitter in that interview.

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The Time albums.
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Reply #32 posted 12/22/04 6:44am

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psychodelicide said:



nod I agree, I never thought that Wendy and Lisa were all that either, contrary to popular opinion on this website. I have heard comments that Prince wrote better music when he was working with them, which is total censored. The people that Prince works with does not influence him, HE influences THEM.
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Prince did do more creative music when Wendy and Lisa were in the band as a whole, they were the best filter he's ever had. There was no Revolution before Wendy and Lisa, just a band, Bobby's even said that (Uptown magazine before someone asks). Wendy and Lisa are two of the most talented all the way around musicians he's had. Sure Wendy may not have had the chops that Dez or Mike Scott have but what she brought to the table was far greater. Has Prince picked up the phone to invite Dez to do anything??? No. Did he ask Wendy to play with him a few times this year, YES he did. Plus even when he's been asked who he'd have BACK in his band, he mentioned them first. So sure you don't have to think Wendy and Lisa were all that, but Prince does and that's what's important. As for your HE influences them, if that was true they would have stopped making music after they left. But they still put out great music and are seaked out by a lot of respected musicians. I don't mind reading someone's opinion but those two posts were just crap. Wendy a step down from Dez? That's pure comedy. She got to create a lot of music with Prince, some released some in the vault, plus he respected Wendy and Lisa enough to send them partial songs for them to finish. Dez never had that kind of trust from Prince, so there was no step down. I do like Dez however a lot, I actually seen Prince when Dez was in the band, but I just thought he sounded a little bitter in that interview.



Well, I enjoy reading other people's posts as well, but I didn't label your post as being "crap", even though I disagreed with what you wrote. I wasn't expecting you to agree with what I said about Wendy and Lisa, since I know you are a diehard fan of theirs. In fact, I was waiting for you to post your opinion saying that you disagreed, and sure enough, you did. lol

Everybody knows that there was no Revolution before Wendy and Lisa joined Prince's band, that is a well documented fact. We don't know for sure if Prince ever picked up the phone and ask Dez to do anything with him. Perhaps Dez turned him Prince down because he was busy working on another musical project, which could have been possible, for all we know. We will never know for sure whether Dez got another opportunity to work with Prince or not.

I used to own a Wendy and Lisa album (forget the name of it now), but most of the songs on that album, to me, sound like Prince songs. When I would listen to that album, the Prince influence and the Prince vibe was definitely there. So your comment that if Wendy and Lisa would have stopped making music after they left Prince's band is moot, since Prince definitely influenced Wendy and Lisa's musical abilities, and their songwriting skills. As far as Prince asking them back to work with him, that is kind of to be expected, since it is a well known fact that Prince, at one time, was very good friends with Wendy and Lisa, while they were working with him.
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Reply #33 posted 12/22/04 6:47am

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EverlastingNow said:



Prince did do more creative music when Wendy and Lisa were in the band as a whole, they were the best filter he's ever had. There was no Revolution before Wendy and Lisa, just a band, Bobby's even said that (Uptown magazine before someone asks). Wendy and Lisa are two of the most talented all the way around musicians he's had. Sure Wendy may not have had the chops that Dez or Mike Scott have but what she brought to the table was far greater. Has Prince picked up the phone to invite Dez to do anything??? No. Did he ask Wendy to play with him a few times this year, YES he did. Plus even when he's been asked who he'd have BACK in his band, he mentioned them first. So sure you don't have to think Wendy and Lisa were all that, but Prince does and that's what's important. As for your HE influences them, if that was true they would have stopped making music after they left. But they still put out great music and are seaked out by a lot of respected musicians. I don't mind reading someone's opinion but those two posts were just crap. Wendy a step down from Dez? That's pure comedy. She got to create a lot of music with Prince, some released some in the vault, plus he respected Wendy and Lisa enough to send them partial songs for them to finish. Dez never had that kind of trust from Prince, so there was no step down. I do like Dez however a lot, I actually seen Prince when Dez was in the band, but I just thought he sounded a little bitter in that interview.

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You never get over the fact that this is Prince.Org not W&L org.(LOL). I think a lot of the stuff P did before W&L came along is really good and like a lot of the stuff he did when they left and he must have trusted Dez as he worked on
The Time albums.



I agree, Prince had great music before and after Wendy and Lisa came into the picture. It makes me sick how some people act like Wendy and Lisa are some kind of goddesses who should be worshipped. It is that type of fawning that turned me off from them and their music.
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Reply #34 posted 12/22/04 7:31am

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EverlastingNow said:



Prince did do more creative music when Wendy and Lisa were in the band as a whole, they were the best filter he's ever had. There was no Revolution before Wendy and Lisa, just a band, Bobby's even said that (Uptown magazine before someone asks). Wendy and Lisa are two of the most talented all the way around musicians he's had. Sure Wendy may not have had the chops that Dez or Mike Scott have but what she brought to the table was far greater. Has Prince picked up the phone to invite Dez to do anything??? No. Did he ask Wendy to play with him a few times this year, YES he did. Plus even when he's been asked who he'd have BACK in his band, he mentioned them first. So sure you don't have to think Wendy and Lisa were all that, but Prince does and that's what's important. As for your HE influences them, if that was true they would have stopped making music after they left. But they still put out great music and are seaked out by a lot of respected musicians. I don't mind reading someone's opinion but those two posts were just crap. Wendy a step down from Dez? That's pure comedy. She got to create a lot of music with Prince, some released some in the vault, plus he respected Wendy and Lisa enough to send them partial songs for them to finish. Dez never had that kind of trust from Prince, so there was no step down. I do like Dez however a lot, I actually seen Prince when Dez was in the band, but I just thought he sounded a little bitter in that interview.



Well, I enjoy reading other people's posts as well, but I didn't label your post as being "crap", even though I disagreed with what you wrote. I wasn't expecting you to agree with what I said about Wendy and Lisa, since I know you are a diehard fan of theirs. In fact, I was waiting for you to post your opinion saying that you disagreed, and sure enough, you did. lol

Everybody knows that there was no Revolution before Wendy and Lisa joined Prince's band, that is a well documented fact.

We don't know for sure if Prince ever picked up the phone and ask Dez to do anything with him. Perhaps Dez turned him Prince down because he was busy working on another musical project, which could have been possible, for all we know. We will never know for sure whether Dez got another opportunity to work with Prince or not.

I used to own a Wendy and Lisa album (forget the name of it now), but most of the songs on that album, to me, sound like Prince songs. When I would listen to that album, the Prince influence and the Prince vibe was definitely there. So your comment that if Wendy and Lisa would have stopped making music after they left Prince's band is moot, since Prince definitely influenced Wendy and Lisa's musical abilities, and their songwriting skills. As far as Prince asking them back to work with him, that is kind of to be expected, since it is a well known fact that Prince, at one time, was very good friends with Wendy and Lisa, while they were working with him.



I think thre was a Revolution before Wendy and Lisa. If you look closely, you can see the name on the 1999 album cover - when Dez was still the guitarist and made one of the most memorable contributions to any Prince music with the Little Red Corvette solo.

You are so right. Why is it automatically assumed that Prince doesnt talk to Dez. I have heard Dez say in more than one interview that he and Prince spoke when the Musicology tour came to TN where Dez is based.

All valid points and I am glad to see someone step up on this lingering Wendy and Lisa syndrome. Thanks!
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Reply #35 posted 12/22/04 8:08am

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I think thre was a Revolution before Wendy and Lisa. If you look closely, you can see the name on the 1999 album cover - when Dez was still the guitarist and made one of the most memorable contributions to any Prince music with the Little Red Corvette solo. {snipped}




Regarding the Revolution moniker: You are correct, there was and it does.
The only thing I have to add is that Lisa was already in the band and Wendy was not.

Hell as far as guitarists go Dez Dickerson and Mikko Weaver blew Wendy away in a live setting.

I wonder how many posts this thread will get before someone posts the tired regurgitated line: "Prince once said W&L added colour to his music." lol
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Reply #36 posted 12/22/04 8:19am

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I didn't know what Dez and that drunk meant either by Wendy and Lisa. Lesbians or straight hetero women, it don't make no difference. Wendy and Lisa were a force to be recond with in Prince's band. I'm not takin' nothin' from Dez because he was a force too. But don't be actin' like you are better than somebody because you found God. I thought Wendy was a good replacement after Dez because she could play funky and she was different it wasn't another copy cat of Dez.

As far as the Dez not sounding bitter, I guess he wouldn't be because he gave it up, he quit. He didn't get fired.

*Note* I'm really not trying to be funny by this, but if nobody said this was Dez Dickerson, I would've sworn this was a White guy talking. He didn't sound like a black man not one lick. (Not to get it confused with Black people who talk proper English, don't get it confused) He sounded White.


Thanks BinaryJustin and Dealodelandron. I just realized after I made my comment that Dez did come from Minneapolis, maybe that's why he talks that way. I had never ever heard Dez speak in the past. Listening to this interview was the first time I had heard him speak. I meant no offense and didn't say there was anything wrong with anybody who talks a certain way. I just didn't want it to sound like just because you're not talking slang talk and you talk correct English then you're not really black. Just like Tiger Woods. Tiger talks white to me. It doesn't mean he isn't black, although he will tell you he is Caublanashian.

On the subject of Dez,Wendy, and Lisa. The way I took it, he sounded like he was abit arrogant because he thought he was a better musician than Wendy and Lisa. Alot of you might agree that Dez was a better guitar player, but he's the one who made the decision to move to other things and Prince chose Wendy as his replacement. Prince, at the time was not in his religion as he is now. I guess the who lesbian fit right into his band at the time.
I understand what you mean about Dez sounding white. I think that it has to do with where he grew up. I mean they all have a Minneapolis accent, if there is one. Maybe it's more of an environemtal thing than a black or white thing.

I know that it's possible that Lisa and Wendy were not an item. There was a strong push for people to believe that though, come on Computer Blue. I just got that feeling. If they would've expressed their sentiments regarding Prince, Wendy and Lisa the way that you did, then I would've believed it was about the music.

I also wanted to mention that even if Wendy and/or Lisa are gay just because they are always together doesn't mean they're lovers. My best friend and I are both gay and we're not a couple.

Miguel
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Reply #37 posted 12/22/04 8:33am

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Prince did do more creative music when Wendy and Lisa were in the band as a whole, they were the best filter he's ever had. There was no Revolution before Wendy and Lisa, just a band, Bobby's even said that (Uptown magazine before someone asks). Wendy and Lisa are two of the most talented all the way around musicians he's had. Sure Wendy may not have had the chops that Dez or Mike Scott have but what she brought to the table was far greater. Has Prince picked up the phone to invite Dez to do anything??? No. Did he ask Wendy to play with him a few times this year, YES he did. Plus even when he's been asked who he'd have BACK in his band, he mentioned them first. So sure you don't have to think Wendy and Lisa were all that, but Prince does and that's what's important. As for your HE influences them, if that was true they would have stopped making music after they left. But they still put out great music and are seaked out by a lot of respected musicians. I don't mind reading someone's opinion but those two posts were just crap. Wendy a step down from Dez? That's pure comedy. She got to create a lot of music with Prince, some released some in the vault, plus he respected Wendy and Lisa enough to send them partial songs for them to finish. Dez never had that kind of trust from Prince, so there was no step down. I do like Dez however a lot, I actually seen Prince when Dez was in the band, but I just thought he sounded a little bitter in that interview.

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You never get over the fact that this is Prince.Org not W&L org.(LOL). I think a lot of the stuff P did before W&L came along is really good and like a lot of the stuff he did when they left and he must have trusted Dez as he worked on
The Time albums.


Oh please, like Prince is the only topic on the Org. lol I've been a Prince fan for 25 years and counting so don't make it sound like I'm just a Wendy and Lisa fan. I never said that Prince didn't have great music before them or after them, I said that he had more creative music, he took more chances when they were in his life.
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Reply #38 posted 12/22/04 8:36am

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EverlastingNow said:



Prince did do more creative music when Wendy and Lisa were in the band as a whole, they were the best filter he's ever had. There was no Revolution before Wendy and Lisa, just a band, Bobby's even said that (Uptown magazine before someone asks). Wendy and Lisa are two of the most talented all the way around musicians he's had. Sure Wendy may not have had the chops that Dez or Mike Scott have but what she brought to the table was far greater. Has Prince picked up the phone to invite Dez to do anything??? No. Did he ask Wendy to play with him a few times this year, YES he did. Plus even when he's been asked who he'd have BACK in his band, he mentioned them first. So sure you don't have to think Wendy and Lisa were all that, but Prince does and that's what's important. As for your HE influences them, if that was true they would have stopped making music after they left. But they still put out great music and are seaked out by a lot of respected musicians. I don't mind reading someone's opinion but those two posts were just crap. Wendy a step down from Dez? That's pure comedy. She got to create a lot of music with Prince, some released some in the vault, plus he respected Wendy and Lisa enough to send them partial songs for them to finish. Dez never had that kind of trust from Prince, so there was no step down. I do like Dez however a lot, I actually seen Prince when Dez was in the band, but I just thought he sounded a little bitter in that interview.



Well, I enjoy reading other people's posts as well, but I didn't label your post as being "crap", even though I disagreed with what you wrote. I wasn't expecting you to agree with what I said about Wendy and Lisa, since I know you are a diehard fan of theirs. In fact, I was waiting for you to post your opinion saying that you disagreed, and sure enough, you did. lol

Everybody knows that there was no Revolution before Wendy and Lisa joined Prince's band, that is a well documented fact. We don't know for sure if Prince ever picked up the phone and ask Dez to do anything with him. Perhaps Dez turned him Prince down because he was busy working on another musical project, which could have been possible, for all we know. We will never know for sure whether Dez got another opportunity to work with Prince or not.

I used to own a Wendy and Lisa album (forget the name of it now), but most of the songs on that album, to me, sound like Prince songs. When I would listen to that album, the Prince influence and the Prince vibe was definitely there. So your comment that if Wendy and Lisa would have stopped making music after they left Prince's band is moot, since Prince definitely influenced Wendy and Lisa's musical abilities, and their songwriting skills. As far as Prince asking them back to work with him, that is kind of to be expected, since it is a well known fact that Prince, at one time, was very good friends with Wendy and Lisa, while they were working with him.


Oh my God, are you the girl who lost her shoe at the Glam Slam show in 94???? lol
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Reply #39 posted 12/22/04 8:41am

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laurarichardson said:


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You never get over the fact that this is Prince.Org not W&L org.(LOL). I think a lot of the stuff P did before W&L came along is really good and like a lot of the stuff he did when they left and he must have trusted Dez as he worked on
The Time albums.



I agree, Prince had great music before and after Wendy and Lisa came into the picture. It makes me sick how some people act like Wendy and Lisa are some kind of goddesses who should be worshipped. It is that type of fawning that turned me off from them and their music.


Worshiping and fawning turned you off? Or the fact that you do the same for Prince and don't like thinking he ever had any help making his music?? hmmm
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Reply #40 posted 12/22/04 8:47am

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psychodelicide said:




Well, I enjoy reading other people's posts as well, but I didn't label your post as being "crap", even though I disagreed with what you wrote. I wasn't expecting you to agree with what I said about Wendy and Lisa, since I know you are a diehard fan of theirs. In fact, I was waiting for you to post your opinion saying that you disagreed, and sure enough, you did. lol

Everybody knows that there was no Revolution before Wendy and Lisa joined Prince's band, that is a well documented fact. We don't know for sure if Prince ever picked up the phone and ask Dez to do anything with him. Perhaps Dez turned him Prince down because he was busy working on another musical project, which could have been possible, for all we know. We will never know for sure whether Dez got another opportunity to work with Prince or not.

I used to own a Wendy and Lisa album (forget the name of it now), but most of the songs on that album, to me, sound like Prince songs. When I would listen to that album, the Prince influence and the Prince vibe was definitely there. So your comment that if Wendy and Lisa would have stopped making music after they left Prince's band is moot, since Prince definitely influenced Wendy and Lisa's musical abilities, and their songwriting skills. As far as Prince asking them back to work with him, that is kind of to be expected, since it is a well known fact that Prince, at one time, was very good friends with Wendy and Lisa, while they were working with him.


Oh my God, are you the girl who lost her shoe at the Glam Slam show in 94???? lol


No, that was not me. no no no! Besides what does that have to do with my previous post?
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Reply #41 posted 12/22/04 8:48am

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I agree, Prince had great music before and after Wendy and Lisa came into the picture. It makes me sick how some people act like Wendy and Lisa are some kind of goddesses who should be worshipped. It is that type of fawning that turned me off from them and their music.


Worshiping and fawning turned you off? Or the fact that you do the same for Prince and don't like thinking he ever had any help making his music?? hmmm


I don't fawn over ANYBODY, and that includes Prince. I am well aware of the fact that Prince has help writing his music, that is not an issue with me.
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Reply #42 posted 12/22/04 8:52am

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Reply #43 posted 12/22/04 8:56am

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Oh my God, are you the girl who lost her shoe at the Glam Slam show in 94???? lol


No, that was not me. no no no! Besides what does that have to do with my previous post?
[Edited 12/22/04 8:53am]


Is that you in the picture in the purple jumpsuit on the motorcycle? If so, it was you lol It had nothing to with it other than I remember where I've seen you now. lol
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Reply #44 posted 12/22/04 9:05am

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Yup, that is me in the purple outfit. You must have seen me at the celebration in 2002, when I was walking around Paisley Park wearing it. biggrin
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Reply #45 posted 12/22/04 6:41pm

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I really enjoyed Prince's band from backintheday, as much as I do now.
especially Lisa and Wendy.2 me they were a part of Prince. I mean I identified
with there persona as much as I did Prince's. I loved the chemistry that they had. Lisa until this day still inspires me as a keyboardist. I loved her chords
they would make you wanna cry! Wendy had the talent at least to me as a raw player on the gutair. It was if she made up the music as she went along, and she
had her own mind,which I think Prince respected.I loved the post revolution days
with Dez,Andre,Lisa Bobby Z.,and the Doctor (Matt) Fink.... That was Prince
Hard core!!!!
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Reply #46 posted 12/22/04 8:32pm

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I tried to listen to the interview but the sound kept turning on and off and I got annoyed and turned it off.

I didn't hear the interview but I kept reading people's posts saying that Dez said he "didn't get Wendy and Lisa". He may have been referring to the weird influences that they brought to Prince's music beginning with "Around The World In A Day". People always praise Wendy and Lisa for introducing Prince to different styles. I've always blamed them for weakening Prince's hard style. When I first heard that Prince had fired The Revolution, I thought Prince was going to return to his old self but Wendy and Lisa's influence had already taken it's toll. I wish Dez had never left.
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Reply #47 posted 12/22/04 10:18pm

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vainandy said:

I tried to listen to the interview but the sound kept turning on and off and I got annoyed and turned it off.

I didn't hear the interview but I kept reading people's posts saying that Dez said he "didn't get Wendy and Lisa". He may have been referring to the weird influences that they brought to Prince's music beginning with "Around The World In A Day". People always praise Wendy and Lisa for introducing Prince to different styles. I've always blamed them for weakening Prince's hard style. When I first heard that Prince had fired The Revolution, I thought Prince was going to return to his old self but Wendy and Lisa's influence had already taken it's toll. I wish Dez had never left.


I concur... I don't like ATWIAD at all, and while I find Parade to be a more enjoyable listening experience to its predeccesor, I don't find myself reaching for it over some of Prince's earlier stuff or even some of the NPG era stuff. Makes me LMAO when I read how some people feel the girls ascended P's music. eek

To each their own I guess....
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Reply #48 posted 12/23/04 1:13pm

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Great interview-but I did not appreciate the remarks re:Wendy and Lisa. The two of them were an integral part of Prince's sound during the Revolution era. They were responsible for making Prince realize that his bandmembers can be great songwriters as well as great musicians. To discredit them the way Dez and that DJ did was insulting.
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Reply #49 posted 12/23/04 3:42pm

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Oh Lord, here we go again. rolleyes
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Reply #50 posted 12/23/04 4:36pm

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Oh Lord, here we go again. rolleyes


What is that supposed to mean? hmmm
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Reply #51 posted 12/23/04 5:59pm

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Scroll up and read my and other people's posts, you will know what I mean.
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Reply #52 posted 12/23/04 9:36pm

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Kazama said:

vainandy said:

I tried to listen to the interview but the sound kept turning on and off and I got annoyed and turned it off.

I didn't hear the interview but I kept reading people's posts saying that Dez said he "didn't get Wendy and Lisa". He may have been referring to the weird influences that they brought to Prince's music beginning with "Around The World In A Day". People always praise Wendy and Lisa for introducing Prince to different styles. I've always blamed them for weakening Prince's hard style. When I first heard that Prince had fired The Revolution, I thought Prince was going to return to his old self but Wendy and Lisa's influence had already taken it's toll. I wish Dez had never left.


I concur... I don't like ATWIAD at all, and while I find Parade to be a more enjoyable listening experience to its predeccesor, I don't find myself reaching for it over some of Prince's earlier stuff or even some of the NPG era stuff. Makes me LMAO when I read how some people feel the girls ascended P's music. eek

To each their own I guess....


Which is funny because I LMAO when I read how someone doesn't see what the girls added to Prince's music, or anyone they've worked with actually.
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Reply #53 posted 12/23/04 9:39pm

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chrisrenee said:

Great interview-but I did not appreciate the remarks re:Wendy and Lisa. The two of them were an integral part of Prince's sound during the Revolution era. They were responsible for making Prince realize that his bandmembers can be great songwriters as well as great musicians. To discredit them the way Dez and that DJ did was insulting.
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I totally agree. You'll see on this topic however that there are some people that don't want to think that Prince wasn't responsible for everything during that era. They'll see the light someday...they always do lol
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EverlastingNow said:

Kazama said:



I concur... I don't like ATWIAD at all, and while I find Parade to be a more enjoyable listening experience to its predeccesor, I don't find myself reaching for it over some of Prince's earlier stuff or even some of the NPG era stuff. Makes me LMAO when I read how some people feel the girls ascended P's music. eek

To each their own I guess....


Which is funny because I LMAO when I read how someone doesn't see what the girls added to Prince's music, or anyone they've worked with actually.


I totally agree that they are extremely talented but I personally prefer Prince's music without their influence. It was much harder edged.
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Reply #55 posted 12/24/04 7:53am

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EverlastingNow said:

Kazama said:



I concur... I don't like ATWIAD at all, and while I find Parade to be a more enjoyable listening experience to its predeccesor, I don't find myself reaching for it over some of Prince's earlier stuff or even some of the NPG era stuff. Makes me LMAO when I read how some people feel the girls ascended P's music. eek

To each their own I guess....


Which is funny because I LMAO when I read how someone doesn't see what the girls added to Prince's music, or anyone they've worked with actually.


Not saying the girls are crap, just overrated; esp when you're speaking on P's music...

Concerning Prince: They definitely added something alright, I just don't find it as enthralling as you. I don't see it as some sort of musical elevation for P, which was the way I construed your initial post. I can be honest though and tell you that Pop Life, Slow Love, and Sometimes It Snows In April are beautiful songs imo, (my favs from P's collaborative W&L era) but they aren't of the same entertainment caliber as P's earlier offerings imo...

Also, since you asked the question "When was the last time P picked up the phone to invite Dez to anything" - When was the last time P picked up the phone to cut a song with W&L? I'd take that praise with a grain of salt, since he doesn't seem to wanna revisit this musical ascension...
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EverlastingNow said:

chrisrenee said:

Great interview-but I did not appreciate the remarks re:Wendy and Lisa. The two of them were an integral part of Prince's sound during the Revolution era. They were responsible for making Prince realize that his bandmembers can be great songwriters as well as great musicians. To discredit them the way Dez and that DJ did was insulting.
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I totally agree. You'll see on this topic however that there are some people that don't want to think that Prince wasn't responsible for everything during that era. They'll see the light someday...they always do lol


"The light" is that not everyone on this website think that Wendy and Lisa are goddesses, like some people do.
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Kazama said:

EverlastingNow said:



Which is funny because I LMAO when I read how someone doesn't see what the girls added to Prince's music, or anyone they've worked with actually.


Not saying the girls are crap, just overrated; esp when you're speaking on P's music...

Concerning Prince: They definitely added something alright, I just don't find it as enthralling as you. I don't see it as some sort of musical elevation for P, which was the way I construed your initial post. I can be honest though and tell you that Pop Life, Slow Love, and Sometimes It Snows In April are beautiful songs imo, (my favs from P's collaborative W&L era) but they aren't of the same entertainment caliber as P's earlier offerings imo...

Also, since you asked the question "When was the last time P picked up the phone to invite Dez to anything" - When was the last time P picked up the phone to cut a song with W&L? I'd take that praise with a grain of salt, since he doesn't seem to wanna revisit this musical ascension...
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I said it once, but I'll say it again:
























A-fuckin-men! clapping Glad to see that not everybody on this website thinks that the ground that Wendy and Lisa walk on should be kissed and revered.
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Reply #58 posted 12/24/04 8:50am

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psychodelicide said:

Kazama said:



Not saying the girls are crap, just overrated; esp when you're speaking on P's music...

Concerning Prince: They definitely added something alright, I just don't find it as enthralling as you. I don't see it as some sort of musical elevation for P, which was the way I construed your initial post. I can be honest though and tell you that Pop Life, Slow Love, and Sometimes It Snows In April are beautiful songs imo, (my favs from P's collaborative W&L era) but they aren't of the same entertainment caliber as P's earlier offerings imo...

Also, since you asked the question "When was the last time P picked up the phone to invite Dez to anything" - When was the last time P picked up the phone to cut a song with W&L? I'd take that praise with a grain of salt, since he doesn't seem to wanna revisit this musical ascension...
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I said it once, but I'll say it again:
























A-fuckin-men! clapping Glad to see that not everybody on this website thinks that the ground that Wendy and Lisa walk on should be kissed and revered.
[Edited 12/24/04 8:47am]


i love how some people get some self gratification out of shooting down other peoples personal taste...

its rather silly... nutty
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Reply #59 posted 12/24/04 8:57am

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No, my post was not intended to get "self-gratification by shooting down other people's tastes" or to be "silly", I was giving my honest opinion about the subject matter that is being discussed. Scroll up; judging from what some others have posted on this thread, I'm not alone in my thinking.
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