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Thread started 08/14/04 7:41pm

psykosoul

Prince protege reissues

If you could have reissues of any of the Warner/Paisley Park protege albums which ones would you choose? I'm taking notice of these specialty labels like Hip-O Select and Rhino Handmade that are specializing in reissuing and remastering albums that are out of print. They seem to really be listening to the consumers. I know Rhino will produce as few as 1000 limited edition copies. So if you could have your choice of reissues of albums that are out of print, which Prince proteges would you choose?

I think The Family, Vanity 6, and the Madhouse LPs are the ones that could sell at least 1000 copies in no time flat.

Tell the good folks at Rhinohandmade.com which ones you'd like to see at this link.
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Reply #1 posted 08/15/04 12:02am

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Ok Vanity 6 and Apollonia 6,Sheila E.'s whole catalog.Jill Jones,Taja Sevelle,Mazarati,The Family,and the 2 Madhouse CD's...The Time I didn't include because they are still easy to come across.
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Reply #2 posted 08/15/04 6:37am

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It isn't Warner/Pasiley Park but I'm itching for Wild Animal and Skin on Skin reissue on CD. Won't happen until Vanity dies, I'm sure but I can dream.
Well, I went ahead an suggested it. This is what I said:
I think you should re-release Vanity's solo albums Skin on Skin and Wild Animal. Why people would want to buy it? First of all they weren't released on cd in the USA (though Skin on Skin was released on CD in Japan) Secondly, people would want to buy it because Vh1 Classic plays Vanity's solo videos, therefore exposing Vanity to a whole new generation who buys CDs.
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Reply #3 posted 08/15/04 7:42am

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All of the stuff they have on their site seems to be over 30 years old. Surely they either have to get permission from the copyright owner or have to wait until the items become "public domain" and no longer subject to copyright restrictions?
this is from their site
SECOND STEP: LICENSING
Once the ideal artist and track selection is achieved, Rhino's legal department gets busy on the process of licensing them for release. Which isn't always easy.

A&R's list of tracks, plus alternates, are divided among the legal department's staff. Our requests for licensing of the masters are then sent to the various record labels, song publishers, or whoever controls the material, along with a royalty and advance offer.

If licensing of a track is denied, we press them for a reason why. Was it an artist denial because they didn't want to be part of the package? Is there a conflicting package that's already out? Are there certain restrictions? Maybe they don't even have the rights for the U.S. anymore. So we don't just accept a no. Often, whatever problem exists is easily surmountable.

Somewhere during that process, our director of publishing works on the publishing licensing. Then, when a sufficient number of tracks have been cleared, the project goes back to A&R and is scheduled for release.

Still, other problems may occur in the licensing phase. There may be conflicting companies or people claiming rights to the track, or, in rare cases, companies or artists so obscure that they're afraid of being exploited. We just have to allay their fears, and usually, we're successful. The most convincing argument for this sort of licensing is that all parties benefit -- especially if the licensor is a major label whose track, by nature of inclusion on a popular Rhino compilation, attracts new fans to its artist's catalog.

"Sometimes these artists aren't doing anything but licensing out their tracks. It may be the only way they derive any income," notes Stewart. "The thing is, Rhino is so well-respected in this area that we usually don't have to go through too much explanation. Ultimately, Rhino won't put out a track that we don't have a legitimate license for"

Nice idea, but I can't see Prince and WB agreeing terms.
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Reply #4 posted 08/15/04 11:30am

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Reply #5 posted 08/15/04 2:41pm

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Andre Cymone, Vanity 6, Apollonia 6, Jesse Johnson, and Mazarati.
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Reply #6 posted 08/15/04 2:47pm

psykosoul

gsh said:

All of the stuff they have on their site seems to be over 30 years old. Surely they either have to get permission from the copyright owner or have to wait until the items become "public domain" and no longer subject to copyright restrictions?
Nice idea, but I can't see Prince and WB agreeing terms.


Honestly, I do see Prince withholding. But with a limited edition release, he really doesn't have anything to lose. There are some portions of that protege catalog that would sell out within months if not weeks. I really hope he comes around one day. I think if he and Rhino saw how strong the demand was he'd have no problem. I can dream, can't I? lol
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Reply #7 posted 08/15/04 11:15pm

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vainandy said:

Andre Cymone, Vanity 6, Apollonia 6, Jesse Johnson, and Mazarati.



The three Jesse albums on a&M were rereleased in 1999

The Time was going to have a greatest hits album out about the same time on Rhino, but somebody nixed it : (
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Reply #8 posted 08/16/04 3:57am

DavidEye

***Vanity 6---this album appeared on CD before (I bought it in the early 90s) but I think it's currently out of print and extremely hard to find these days.Why not remaster it and add a few bonus tracks,such as the "Drive Me Wild" remix 12" version?

***The Family ---one track from this album---"Nothing Compares 2 U"---became a huge hit for another artist,so I think there would be alot of interest in hearing what the original version sounds like.Plus,it's a solid album that many Prince fans would kill to have on CD.Remaster it and add a few bonus tracks,such as the excellent "Missunderstood".

*** Mazarati ---the first two singles---"Players' Ball" and the Prince-wriiten "100 MPH"---did well on the R&B charts.How about a cool remaster with a few bonus tracks,such as the 12" version of "Player's Ball",the Mazarati version of "Jerkout" and "Suzie Lovelace",which I think is a Mazarati demo.

*** All three of Sheila E'.s Paisley Park albums ---i think 'The Glamorous Life' is the only Sheila E. CD that's easy to find.Remaster each CD with bonus tracks.

*** the Time's first three albums ----Thankfully,these CDs are still in print,but how about remastering them,with a few bonus tracks on each one? Songs like "Grace" and "Tricky" could finally make their CD debut.
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Reply #9 posted 08/17/04 7:56am

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my pick would be MAZARATI cause its truly a classic funk album and i thought they were gonna be special.But they came out in the mid to late '80's,had they came out in the early '80's they would've given THE TIME stiff competition!....."ALL THE CRITICS LOVE U IN NEW YORK"
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Reply #10 posted 08/17/04 10:09am

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I agree with DavidEye's choices, particularly Mazarati, The Family, and Sheila E. (her self-titled third album, and IMO her best). I have all of these on vinyl, and I would love to get them on CD.
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