Try even saying the word "dick" on certain other sites. Unless you're talking about Mr. Nixon or Mr. Van Dyke (and that's pushing it because you got both "Dick" and "Dyke" in the same name), your post will disappear WITHOUT explanation, but WITH the quickness.

That's funny, I could have sworn we were discussing The Org. What do certain other sites have to do with the discussion we are having here? I'm going to go out on a limb here, but maybe juuuust maybe, if a little more time was spent addressing the issues on this site instead of overshadowing them with whatever does or does not go on elsewhere, there'd be no need for this discussion.

I don't know what situation you're talking about, but I'm not going to say that we all make perfectly sound judgment calls 100 percent of the time. I'm also not going to comment on a situation with which I wasn't involved or with which I'm not familiar.

If you are referring to the "dick sucking" thread. You should be familiar with it, as you did post on it. http://www.prince.org/msg/7/95401 However, if you're referring to the nameless friend situation, it has been taken care of. I was using it as an example to illustrate my point.

I will, however, stand by what I said earlier on this thread. You can come on here to kiss the purple ass or you can make it your life's mission to tell the Purple One to kiss YOUR ass. Whatever. You and your sundry kissing needs are welcome here. Just don't BE an ass and we'll get along fine.

Ass kissing? That's the kind of articulation that really makes this site a major let down. I come here to share my views on and show appreciation for an extraordinarily talented man that has entertained me for more than 20 years. That's not kissing his ass. And since I've been very vocal in my critique of this place lately, does that mean I told you to kiss my ass?

So if you're looking for a double standard, you might wanna dig a little deeper. Or maybe use a more articulate shovel?

Shall we all go to the hardware store together, I'll even treat!

Peeps need to listen loud and clear... if a thread or post offends you, skip it. Don't click on it... fight the urge to check it out and pass it up!)

SexyBeautifulOne, if you don't like this site, then understand that you never have to come here again if you don't want.

EvilWhiteMale said:

You know, I have a favorite wrecka stow in my neigborhood. The employees are rude and roll their eyes whenever you have the nerve to go up to the counter and expect them to actually ring up your purchases and, oh my god, WORK - and the customers are extremely rude and have absolutely no problem shoving you or refusing to move when you say "excuse me".

But you know what, they've got great music at really good prices, and there's some semblence of a hint that the people who run the store really enjoy (and know about) music. So I keep going and ignore the stuff that gets on my nerves.

It's kinda like life. Nothing's gonna be a hundred percent the way you want it. You put up with the crap to get to the good stuff, or else you look elsewhere for a better alternative. We try to improve this place as best we can, but it's never gonna be all things to all people. It's what it is. So fucking deal or move on.

Ya know?

wrecka stow edit
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We try to improve this place as best we can, but it's never gonna be all things to all people. It's what it is. So fucking deal or move on.

Ya know?

June7 said:

No, June, that's totally off! The thread was HARMLESS. Photoshop Prince, this and that, add some poodles and some farts and it was all very funny and cute. I didn't get to see the new photo by EWM, but I did see the porno one with Prince's ass being spanked and although it was amusing, it was not appropriate. Some people surf the org at work, and because I'm using public computers through my university, I'm not allowed to view anything that could be considered 'pornographic.' (And they have cameras in here, watching us! )

If the new photo in question was put up without a link or warning or anything, that's where I have a problem. I opened the thread expecting something akin to the other photoshopping threads, but did NOT expect porn. People need to be forewarned about it. You dig?

It aint my Stow is it?

SexyBeautifulOne, if you don't like this site, then understand that you never have to come here again if you don't want.

LOL, a thinned skin EvilWhiteMale, now that's comedy! Obviously, I like the site on some level because I do come here. What I don't like are certain aspects of it, which I chose to speak on since the subject had been brought up. That's Freedom of Speech for you, ain't it great?

sosgemini said:

Since you knew who the offender was without me stating any names, I'm led to believe you read the thread I was referencing. Which means you also saw that a moderator was going along for the ride. So how much good is reporting it going to really do, hmmm?

If da mod is readin it. Why do we have to report it? You should be able to make a decision on da argument you see right here

No, June, that's totally off! The thread was HARMLESS. Photoshop Prince, this and that, add some poodles and some farts and it was all very funny and cute. I didn't get to see the new photo by EWM, but I did see the porno one with Prince's ass being spanked and although it was amusing, it was not appropriate. Some people surf the org at work, and because I'm using public computers through my university, I'm not allowed to view anything that could be considered 'pornographic.' (And they have cameras in here, watching us! )

If the new photo in question was put up without a link or warning or anything, that's where I have a problem. I opened the thread expecting something akin to the other photoshopping threads, but did NOT expect porn. People need to be forewarned about it. You dig?

SexyBeautifulOne said:

It sure is. So quit bitching when people post something you disagree with.

SexyBeautifulOne: I think you have many good points and it seems we're completely on the same page. Unfortunately it's like spitting against the wind to have the opinion we both seem to have.

I can't photoshop to save my life, but the previous threads were very funny and I enjoyed them and marveled at what people could do. This time around however was different, I was both disgusted and sad at seeing the pictures in question.

You're way too sensitive. Hopefully I can help desensitize you over time.

There are some things you should not joke about

Says who, the comedy police? Who are you to decide what can be joked about and what can't?

I'm betting that EWM and the others with extremely bad taste on this site would throw huge fits if jokes were made concerning 9/11

Fuck no. And you haven't been paying attention to what I've written about that. If I don't like what I see, I stop looking at it. I don't need to start a goddamn protest over it.

but joking about the Iraqis that were humiliated and in one case killed is fine to them.

Welcome to the world. Comedy is relative.

To me you joke about neither because a person has to have some standards, some morals to stand by.

And again, are you the one to say what's moral and what isn't? Your morality is YOUR morality. Don't think we all have to live by that.

EWM has by his posting of the picture shown that he deserves no respect from people, because he has shown none.

I don't need your fucking respect. You are you to me? NO ONE, that's who. I'm being myself, and if you don't like it, then move on and spend your time with those who you feel are worthy of your precious respect.

What you give will be returned so to speak.

Bring it on.

I keep reading that EWM is a really great person and my best friend on this site likes him, but all I see is a person without any regard or respect for others.

Because you see what you wanna see. Turns out, a lot of people like me, both on the org and in the outside world, cuz they can appreciate who I am. I'm always honest and I have respect for all who can respect me back.

Say hello to your friend by the way.

A person with double standards at best, with no standards more likely.

Just because I don't live by your standards, doesn't mean I don't have them. Be happy with your own.

The cussing and name calling hardly makes it better, because that is what people like EWM resort to when they have run out of creative and productive arguments.

No, it's being free to discuss issues how I choose. If cussing bothers you then ignore those who use it. I've made many productive arguments, regardless of what language I use. Get over it.

I agree fully Wizard, but it seems that only one moderator goes on that, the rest seem to think that anything goes until it's noticed by a regular user. Here it's also time to rekindle the torch I was holding against the LSR forum before it was killed, namely what SexyBeautifulOne said; It is a FAN community and Ben stats himself in the purpose of the Org that it's to educate fans of Prince and his music.

Well, as you can see, a lot of other stuff is disussed here.

It's furthermore the without question biggest and most complete independent Prince fan site, and so IMO needs a certain control over what happens on the site because whether it's a site by fans for fans, many people who have a purely professional interest in Prince also visit the site.

Look around. A great deal of the site itself has nothing to do with Prince.

How do these exercises in bad taste educate Prince fans?

How do photoshop spoofs educate Prince fans?

Do the creators and daily users of the Org wish others to see this? Do we need the bad taste to be displayed that openly? I say we don't.

Well bravo to you! You're quite the hardcore liberal protester, aren't you? What a fine, yet cliche'd way to end an argument.

Here's an idea. If you don't like this site, make your own, and run it however you like. What bearing does prince.org have on your life that you have to make such a fuckin stink about it?

Yes Natsume, you are right on point here. It even says somewhere (I can't remember if it's in the user agreement or somewhere else) that before posting pictures you should consider the fact that some people access the Org from work. Porn is NEVER appropriate, on this site or elsewhere. Natty

Where's the porn?

SexyBeautifulOne: I think you have many good points and it seems we're completely on the same page. Unfortunately it's like spitting against the wind to have the opinion we both seem to have.

You don't have to be here. If you're so hurt and bothered by the content, pack your bags.

LOL, oh I get it, you really thought Freedom of Speech only applied to you. No, I'm afraid somebody told you wrong. It applies to ALL of us. People are just as free to disagree with me as I am to disagree with them. You're the only one who's bitching about anything. So in the future, if you can't take the heat, stay out of my conversation. I'm so proud to be an American!!

SexyBeautifulOne said:

Are you always this corny, or just online? Say whatever you like. I just think it's retarded to get so upset over a picture that you never have to look at again if you choose. But instead of just scrolling past, you have to protest. Make your own fucking site. You can have it as pure and sterilized as you like.

Since reading apparently is not your strong suit, I'll help you out. The only thing I said regarding a picture was that I didn't see it. So why you feel you must be defensive regarding a picture towards me is for you to figure out.

Since you're protesting now about something you obviously didn't like, instead of just scrolling past, when's your fucking site going to be up?

Do yourself a favor, take your own advise, and leave me the fuck alone. Otherwise, I can go on like this all day, it doesn't matter to me!

Since you want me to comment on it, ok. The next time you're stumbling around in PhotoShop like that, make sure you copy and paste the subjects neck too, and don't forget to soften the edges, then it doesn't look so obviously bogus. Other than it offending my sense of good taste, it doesn't bother me. You have done and said worse. And that's what I was talking about.

blah blah blah, more and more statements of her dislike of what goes on here and how crappy the mods are etc.. etc.. etc...

Teacher said:

You're free to tell everyone how crappy you think the mods are, as you have done so on many occasions. As a member, I am free to tell you my feelings towards you.

As a moderator, I will continue to moderate fairly... even the (many) reports you send us requesting action. I will answer (unless another mod has beat me to it) all requests for moderation... this I have no problem with.

But you (of all people) seem to get the least enjoyment from your involvement here at the Org. In fact, you seem to really hate it here. In fact, you tend to badger everyone here on the site with your grammar corrections and other demeaning statements. You would do us all a favor (well, most of us) if you decided to leave, really.

This is not a flame, mind you... just my sentiments regarding your presence here on this site. Personally, I could do without it.

EvilWhiteMale said:

Well here's the pic for your viewing pleasure:

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actually, that pic is disturbing on many levels because of the political and moral issues that accompany it. that picture is a sucker punch for a lot of reasons, it's different from the others, because it's a true, tangible symbol of evil or something. prince ain't about that.

plus, i know it sounds like granny talking here but there's a line we really shouldn't cross with prince's image. teasing should be in good fun. bad enough we sit around gossiping on him. sorry. usually i think you're frikkin funny but that pic kinda gives me a feelin

so a lot of people reported you, did they? well, i've only reported one pic ever back when Ardeo did that thread about how will prince die and posted a pic of roadkill. first i asked him to take it down then i warned him i was going to tell and then i reported him to Handz. nothing actually happened. he eventually took it down voluntarily

humor and all that stuff aside, what it all boils down to is that you should know better. you are old enough to know better than to post stupid shit like that. not everybody possesses the same sense of humor as you. not only was that pic uncalled for, it was just plain dumb. ewm, you basically ruined that thread for everyone else and you know it. you owe people an apology for that, because it was unfair to those who were participating on the thread, as well as those who were viewing it. and don't give me any "fuck 'em if they can't take a joke"-type crap, cuz neither i nor anyone else will be buyin that.

y'know, i thought things would be okay when 'nana started up the photoshop challenge threads because 99% of the folks who put in their entries had some great stuff--and guess what? they didn't have to stoop to the level of offensiveness in order to do it! that ain't what the challenge threads are about: it's all about creativity, not shock value for the sake of gettin one's kicks.


mine.

humor and all that stuff aside, what it all boils down to is that you should know better.

Oh please, quit acting like a parent.

you are old enough to know better than to post stupid shit like that.

So I guess everyone at Saturday Night Live and all these other comedy outlets should know better too then huh? Why don't you guys complain to them too for mixing jokes with the same topic?

not everybody possesses the same sense of humor as you.

No, but several others do. So I'm not alone here.

not only was that pic uncalled for, it was just plain dumb.

You know what? That's your opinion. It's not the law of the universe.

ewm, you basically ruined that thread for everyone else and you know it.

No. Others ruined it by bitching about it and turning it into a fuckin fiasco. If no one had complained about it, the thread would have continued. Everyone could have eaisly forgotten about the pic by simply scrolling past it. Dwelling on it ruined the thread.

you owe people an apology for that, because it was unfair to those who were participating on the thread, as well as those who were viewing it.

Yeah, good luck getting a fucking apology out of me.

and don't give me any "fuck 'em if they can't take a joke"-type crap, cuz neither i nor anyone else will be buyin that.

That's your opinion. Though you may not wanna believe it, not everyone was offended by it.

y'know, i thought things would be okay when 'nana started up the photoshop challenge threads because 99% of the folks who put in their entries had some great stuff--and guess what? they didn't have to stoop to the level of offensiveness in order to do it!

So? Neither did I. I posted several other pics of various nature.

that ain't what the challenge threads are about: it's all about creativity, not shock value for the sake of gettin one's kicks.

What I did was just as creative as anything else. It took about the same amount of work and was done in the same process. And yeah, I may be kinda bold sometimes. I'm not about sunshine and lolly-fuckin-pops.


mine.

ultrraviolette said:

If you're nice, I'll show ya.

It's like asking for an apology because someone's avatar offends you, get real.