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Reply #120 posted 02/06/04 12:24pm

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If anything good comes of this Quaidbowl situation I think it's that we are discussing and addressing issues that have been festering in this place for quite sometime. Quaidbowl isn't the cause of all the issues, being presented here by both sides, it's just the straw that broke the camels back so to speak. nod
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Reply #121 posted 02/06/04 12:25pm

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langebleu said:

If the sick humor genuinely offended some people - those people that you sincerely wish to apologise to for causing offence to them - then why do you refuse to apologise for the sick humor?

I don't apologize for telling dirty jokes, but I wouldn't do it in polite company--and the nature of my creation was such that polite company caught wind of it. Polite company knows who they are.
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Reply #122 posted 02/06/04 12:37pm

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Lleena said:

Why was there an Org Watching forum? Wasn't this encouraging more attacks on Orgers? sigh

To try and get the "complaining about the org" threads out of the main discussion area. They were getting annoying for the non-orgers on my site who had no knowledge of any of the long-standing feuds or personalities involved. It didn't work...only one thread got posted in there.

And yes...obviously I let the attacks continue...my bad.
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Reply #123 posted 02/06/04 12:51pm

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DavidEye said:

Then,why the hell did you shut down the site? If you TRULY believe that your site was harmless,inoffensive fun,why did you immediately start removing the contents once we all found out about it? Guilty conscience,perhaps?

On one of the threads from your site,you,IceNine and Chemmie were discussing alter egos that you guys were planning to create at Prince.org,for the sole purpose of race-baiting and pissing off other Orgers.Does this line look familiar?

"My next account will be a black woman who dislikes Whites.But she doesn't say anything blatantly racist"

disbelief and let's not even mention the threads titled "I Hate Spades" and "I Hate People Who Act Niggardly".

I shut it down because of all of this bullshit. I'm sure a copy-cat site will emerge from somewhere else in time.

I've already explained the Spades, coons, beaners, etc. threads. Unless you've been living under a rock, you've seen similar "psyche" threads here on the org--you think it means one thing, and you take the bait and click on it, and "psyche!" --it turns out to be shovels, not the derogatory form of "spade." Along a similar vein, "Niggardly" means miserly. That was a bait thread for people who are not familiar with the term. I didn't post any of those, but I replied to them, and some of the follow-up replies were pretty fuckin' hilarious.

I apologize for the org-attack threads. I've never used an alias for myself, not even once, in my entire org career, but I enabled Chemmie and IceNine to do so by giving them the keys to the clubhouse.
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Reply #124 posted 02/06/04 12:53pm

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TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:

teller said:

The "I hate spades" thread was about shovels. The "I hate coons" thread was about raccoons. Etc, etc, etc. IceNine used to pull this "PSYCHE!" thread shit all the time. Comedy!

But the Uptown Reporter thought it would be fun to lie to you instead. Whoever that is, for someone who went to the trouble to dig through all the archives and find only the worst possible crap, they somehow managed to omit the punchline.

Extremely dishonest move, whoever you are...I'm not impressed...but the herd is impressed, so you're a star.
I can believe you are trying to explain this shit away! If you hate shovels, then it's "I hate shovels" and if you hate raccoons, then it's "I hate raccoons". I read the fucking punchlines and the shit still was not funny.

No...the point is to look like you're posting something offensive at first--that's the "joke." You don't org much, do you?
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Reply #125 posted 02/06/04 12:57pm

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2the9s said:

I have nothing against those people having their own site! Most of them have fucked up this one anyway, so their departure would be welcome!


OUCH! lol
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Reply #126 posted 02/06/04 12:59pm

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MelissaC said:

Teller, we are once again on the same wavelength. I'd love to offer you my complete and unapologetic support, but at the moment that is rather like an endorsement from Al Gore: it ain't gonna help ya any. mr.green

I hope you'll fire up that software again sometime, and I hope I'll be on the invite list.

hug

Oh it's alright... hug No one died.

I don't know what's next for my software, but I'm not doing anything with "orgers" again without Ben's permission.
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Reply #127 posted 02/06/04 1:26pm

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teller said:

TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:

teller said:

The "I hate spades" thread was about shovels. The "I hate coons" thread was about raccoons. Etc, etc, etc. IceNine used to pull this "PSYCHE!" thread shit all the time. Comedy!

But the Uptown Reporter thought it would be fun to lie to you instead. Whoever that is, for someone who went to the trouble to dig through all the archives and find only the worst possible crap, they somehow managed to omit the punchline.

Extremely dishonest move, whoever you are...I'm not impressed...but the herd is impressed, so you're a star.
I can believe you are trying to explain this shit away! If you hate shovels, then it's "I hate shovels" and if you hate raccoons, then it's "I hate raccoons". I read the fucking punchlines and the shit still was not funny.

No...the point is to look like you're posting something offensive at first--that's the "joke." You don't org much, do you?
I guess I haven't Org'ed enough, as I don't recall threads about spades and coons here.
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Reply #128 posted 02/06/04 1:48pm

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2the9s said:

matt said:

2the9s said:

Lie Number 2: That You Created TCFBADO With That Title and Aerogram Coincidentally Stumbled Upon This Title in His Thread Here.

[snip]

I and some others had been browsing that forum for a good week or so before it was exposed and I distinctly remember that you took your title from that thread that Aero created here on the Org. There was no coincidence about it.


hmmm Erm, isn't that what teller said?

"It was called 'QuaidBowl' for a while... When some of the personal attacks began, Quaid asked that I remove his logo and move the site. I did…it was called 'The Beta BBS' for a little while, then when Aero posted that funny thread about 'The Center for Banned and Departed Orgers,' it seemed cute." --teller, 02/05/04 1:29pm

Methinks a retraction and apology are in order. nod


Hey, maybe I just didn't see the part you quoted. Should I apologize for what I didn't see? wink

Maybe you're not even paying attention, and are just stirring up more shit for the sake of trolling me in that transparent fashion of yours, like you always do. hmmm
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Reply #129 posted 02/06/04 1:52pm

2the9s

teller said:

2the9s said:

matt said:

2the9s said:

Lie Number 2: That You Created TCFBADO With That Title and Aerogram Coincidentally Stumbled Upon This Title in His Thread Here.

[snip]

I and some others had been browsing that forum for a good week or so before it was exposed and I distinctly remember that you took your title from that thread that Aero created here on the Org. There was no coincidence about it.


hmmm Erm, isn't that what teller said?

"It was called 'QuaidBowl' for a while... When some of the personal attacks began, Quaid asked that I remove his logo and move the site. I did…it was called 'The Beta BBS' for a little while, then when Aero posted that funny thread about 'The Center for Banned and Departed Orgers,' it seemed cute." --teller, 02/05/04 1:29pm

Methinks a retraction and apology are in order. nod


Hey, maybe I just didn't see the part you quoted. Should I apologize for what I didn't see? wink

Maybe you're not even paying attention, and are just stirring up more shit for the sake of trolling me in that transparent fashion of yours, like you always do. hmmm


Why don't you be a man and address my other points and stop with your selective responses.

It is sure is convenient to ignore me, isn't it?

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Reply #130 posted 02/06/04 1:54pm

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teller accusing people of stirring up shit! That's hysterical!

Man, you are funny after all!

You learned well from Ice!

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Reply #131 posted 02/06/04 1:58pm

2the9s

And the skeleton talking about transparency...

Like most people can't see through this "statement" for what it is, a justification of hate speech.
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Reply #132 posted 02/06/04 2:10pm

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teller said:

MelissaC said:

Teller, we are once again on the same wavelength. I'd love to offer you my complete and unapologetic support, but at the moment that is rather like an endorsement from Al Gore: it ain't gonna help ya any. mr.green

I hope you'll fire up that software again sometime, and I hope I'll be on the invite list.

hug

Oh it's alright... hug No one died.

[...]


"No one died." Is that all you can say about all this? Is that the edge you talk so much about?

Answer please.
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Reply #133 posted 02/06/04 2:12pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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2the9s said:

teller said:

MelissaC said:

Teller, we are once again on the same wavelength. I'd love to offer you my complete and unapologetic support, but at the moment that is rather like an endorsement from Al Gore: it ain't gonna help ya any. mr.green

I hope you'll fire up that software again sometime, and I hope I'll be on the invite list.

hug

Oh it's alright... hug No one died.

[...]


"No one died." Is that all you can say about all this? Is that the edge you talk so much about?

Answer please.


I beleive that would be the "line" lol
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Reply #134 posted 02/06/04 2:39pm

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teller said:

langebleu said:

If the sick humor genuinely offended some people - those people that you sincerely wish to apologise to for causing offence to them - then why do you refuse to apologise for the sick humor?

I don't apologize for telling dirty jokes, but I wouldn't do it in polite company--and the nature of my creation was such that polite company caught wind of it. Polite company knows who they are.

Thanks for the response, teller.

Maybe I'm missing the point you are making, but I wasn't asking about dirty jokes.

I was asking about 'sick humor'.

What you seemed to be saying was, to highlight your own words:

whomever was genuinely offended by all this


but your statement that says:

I won't apologize for the sick humor


immediately afterwards, basically says you are not apologising for 'all' this.

You are effectively only apologising for creating something that allowed certain people to be offended but you are not apologising to them for the material that actually caused the offence because you had no intention of them ever seeing it?
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Reply #135 posted 02/06/04 2:42pm

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KoolAid said:

In one thread, Aaron said "no need to email Tron an invite, I'll just call him." Did he? So when Tron posts his melodramatic "I'm sickened by this" I really wonder.


I just want to say that there was honestly nothing "melodramatic" about TRON's thread... everything he wrote was sincere... and it is hurtful for you to wonder any different. TRON was EXTREMELY hurt by everything he saw on that other site, please trust that. sad

I just wanted to clear that up.
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Reply #136 posted 02/06/04 2:47pm

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Diva said:

KoolAid said:

In one thread, Aaron said "no need to email Tron an invite, I'll just call him." Did he? So when Tron posts his melodramatic "I'm sickened by this" I really wonder.


I just want to say that there was honestly nothing "melodramatic" about TRON's thread... everything he wrote was sincere... and it is hurtful for you to wonder any different. TRON was EXTREMELY hurt by everything he saw on that other site, please trust that. sad

I just wanted to clear that up.


This is a major part of the problem in all this. Speculation is being passed off as facts. Many people who are the angriest are making suppositions as to what really happened and presenting those assumptions as the absolute truth.
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Reply #137 posted 02/06/04 3:11pm

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langebleu said:

You are effectively only apologising for creating something that allowed certain people to be offended but you are not apologising to them for the material that actually caused the offence because you had no intention of them ever seeing it?

Exactly. It is a fact that I like sick humor and I'm not ashamed of that fact, so no apology. I wouldn't do it front of polite company--I feel bad about causing that to happen, so that apology went there.
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Reply #138 posted 02/06/04 3:13pm

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2the9s said:

Why don't you be a man and address my other points and stop with your selective responses.

It is sure is convenient to ignore me, isn't it?

wink

Because you're a phony, I don't respect you, your "points" are random, and I don't feel the need to answer to you.
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Reply #139 posted 02/06/04 3:22pm

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TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:

teller said:

TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:

teller said:

The "I hate spades" thread was about shovels. The "I hate coons" thread was about raccoons. Etc, etc, etc. IceNine used to pull this "PSYCHE!" thread shit all the time. Comedy!

But the Uptown Reporter thought it would be fun to lie to you instead. Whoever that is, for someone who went to the trouble to dig through all the archives and find only the worst possible crap, they somehow managed to omit the punchline.

Extremely dishonest move, whoever you are...I'm not impressed...but the herd is impressed, so you're a star.
I can believe you are trying to explain this shit away! If you hate shovels, then it's "I hate shovels" and if you hate raccoons, then it's "I hate raccoons". I read the fucking punchlines and the shit still was not funny.

No...the point is to look like you're posting something offensive at first--that's the "joke." You don't org much, do you?
I guess I haven't Org'ed enough, as I don't recall threads about spades and coons here.


falloff Guess u haven't org'ed much. I LIKED u, in your previous guise as well. nod highfive

I like u even more when u make Teller look like what he is constantly worship
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Reply #140 posted 02/06/04 3:27pm

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TOFKAS rocks hug

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Reply #141 posted 02/06/04 4:03pm

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2the9s said:

teller said:

I created “The Center for Banned and Departed Orgers." The place actually has no proper name, but that's as good a name as any…here's the whole story as I see it:


Lie Number 2: That You Created TCFBADO With That Title and Aerogram Coincidentally Stumbled Upon This Title in His Thread Here.

You could at least be fair to Aerogram here, especially if your intention is to clarify people's involvement with this little experiment in Utopia. I will speculate on your motives for not being honest about Aero's role below. But first let me expose this particular little "white" lie. smile

I and some others had been browsing that forum for a good week or so before it was exposed and I distinctly remember that you took your title from that thread that Aero created here on the Org. There was no coincidence about it. In fact, many of your members briefly panicked that you had been discovered, thinking Aero's thread was an allusion to Quaidbowel [please note crude humorous spelling of Quaidbowl. Hope you appreciate it teller. smile ] I think it's important to clarify that in order to clarify Aero's role in all this, which is even much less than you let on here.

As for why you fail to do this, I suggest this is because psychologically you are unable to be completely honest on any level about what that site was/is about. Aero, I suggest, was invited for no other reason than to add legitimacy to your venture without exposing its content. As you sought to increase your numbers, your criteria broadened to include those who you felt would not "squeal," as you say.

By maintaining the fiction that perhaps Aerogram was more involved than many people would otherwise think you seek to cloud people's judgements further by feeding off his aura of legitimacy. Sure, you clear his name at other points, but not on this key issue.


While I can appreciate your intentions, I don't think that's what happened at all. It's simply that Teller wondered if I knew for a week or so and the CBDO became an handy Org reference to Quaidbowl. I don't think there was any ill will in its use and on Teller's part, seriously.

That's the second time something ends up being a reference to an Org-critical site. Remember Joey Coco's Princefagg.com with my old AMP sig? Either I've got too much damn aura or I'm cursed.
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Reply #142 posted 02/06/04 4:18pm

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cborgman said:

matt was merely carrying out the actions of the people who reported it.

[This message was edited Fri Feb 6 10:39:43 PST 2004 by cborgman]



Funny.I reported two "trolling" posts by "MelissaC" two days ago.Somehow nobody was too quick to act upon those.


What a double standard...
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Reply #143 posted 02/06/04 4:20pm

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MrTation said:

cborgman said:

matt was merely carrying out the actions of the people who reported it.

[This message was edited Fri Feb 6 10:39:43 PST 2004 by cborgman]



Funny.I reported two "trolling" posts by "MelissaC" two days ago.Somehow nobody was too quick to act upon those.


What a double standard...
disbelief


Just curious. What did you consider Trolling about her threads?
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Reply #144 posted 02/06/04 4:26pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

MrTation said:

cborgman said:

matt was merely carrying out the actions of the people who reported it.

[This message was edited Fri Feb 6 10:39:43 PST 2004 by cborgman]



Funny.I reported two "trolling" posts by "MelissaC" two days ago.Somehow nobody was too quick to act upon those.


What a double standard...
disbelief


Just curious. What did you consider Trolling about her
threads?


See the "Good Lord!" and "Ben:My Suggestions" threads..
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Reply #145 posted 02/06/04 4:57pm

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MrTation said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

MrTation said:

cborgman said:

matt was merely carrying out the actions of the people who reported it.

[This message was edited Fri Feb 6 10:39:43 PST 2004 by cborgman]



Funny.I reported two "trolling" posts by "MelissaC" two days ago.Somehow nobody was too quick to act upon those.


What a double standard...
disbelief


Just curious. What did you consider Trolling about her
threads?


See the "Good Lord!" and "Ben:My Suggestions" threads..


I read those. What was she trolling for? Trolling tends to be baiting threads and she pretty much was just sayin what was on her mind, not for the purpose of getting people all ruffled but to say what she had to say about all this. Are you referring to her saying people were acting like children? If so, she's pretty much clarified herself on that issue...or so I thought hrmph
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Reply #146 posted 02/06/04 5:05pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

MrTation said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

MrTation said:

cborgman said:

matt was merely carrying out the actions of the people who reported it.

[This message was edited Fri Feb 6 10:39:43 PST 2004 by cborgman]



Funny.I reported two "trolling" posts by "MelissaC" two days ago.Somehow nobody was too quick to act upon those.


What a double standard...
disbelief


Just curious. What did you consider Trolling about her
threads?


See the "Good Lord!" and "Ben:My Suggestions" threads..


I read those. What was she trolling for? Trolling tends to be baiting threads and she pretty much was just sayin what was on her mind, not for the purpose of getting people all ruffled but to say what she had to say about all this. Are you referring to her saying people were acting like children? If so, she's pretty much clarified herself on that issue...or so I thought hrmph


It looked like baiting to me.Definitely flaming.
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Reply #147 posted 02/06/04 5:08pm

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MrTation said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

MrTation said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

MrTation said:

cborgman said:

matt was merely carrying out the actions of the people who reported it.

[This message was edited Fri Feb 6 10:39:43 PST 2004 by cborgman]



Funny.I reported two "trolling" posts by "MelissaC" two days ago.Somehow nobody was too quick to act upon those.


What a double standard...
disbelief


Just curious. What did you consider Trolling about her
threads?


See the "Good Lord!" and "Ben:My Suggestions" threads..


I read those. What was she trolling for? Trolling tends to be baiting threads and she pretty much was just sayin what was on her mind, not for the purpose of getting people all ruffled but to say what she had to say about all this. Are you referring to her saying people were acting like children? If so, she's pretty much clarified herself on that issue...or so I thought hrmph


It looked like baiting to me.Definitely flaming.


I'm going to have to go back and read those thread over again then because I seem to remember that she bent over backwards not to flame others while allowing others to flame away...
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Reply #148 posted 02/06/04 5:11pm

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KoolAid said:

Maybe that's why RD did the damn thing. To show how hypocritical you and others are. disbelief


Speaking of that, I think it's time for a "truth in advertising" break. I knew my memory was correct about something...

http://www.prince.org/msg/100/57726

Now, you'll notice that unlike some folks I know (ahem whistling), I prefer to link to the entire discussion so people can examine all of the evidence and are not limited to misleading excerpts. But I think the following posts are noteworthy:




Mirror mirror on the wall who's the fairiest of them all? Seems like a lot of men on this site are going to great lengths posting their pictures whoring for compliments... seems like some people got a little bit too much sugar in their koolaid. --KoolAid, 08/07/03 8:49pm

You are probably the fairest, but not the fairy-est... that's reserved for the homoerotic tendencies evidenced by many of the men here posting come hither pictures. lol --KoolAid, 08/07/03 8:52pm

How homo-social of you. wink --KoolAid, 08/07/03 10:08pm




I guess everyone is welcome in your Uptown. That is, as long as they're straight.

And now back to your regularly-scheduled posturing...
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Reply #149 posted 02/06/04 5:31pm

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is this thread even about teller's statement anymore?
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