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Hi

I've been spending time here and there... I'd like to take a moment to ask a few questions, mkay?

Here it is: The members of Prince.org are grouped together and considered to be at the lowest stratum of the Prince community on the Web today. Imagine that! In fact, time is spent on dissing the org... the org this or the org that... is commonplace.

What exactly do you think should be done, could be done, or should anything be done about toning down the content of the site?

If things were different here, you know... not so much dirt, smut, and nonsense... as opposed to clean, G-rated content, and people making good points all the time - would people here be as tight? Would it just feel too goody-two-shoes and make you run for the hills?

IS there anything wrong with the "attitude" of those who post under the prince.org name? Or is this "attitude" or that "they are a bunch of complainers who should consider what they are saying in the name of Prince", contrived with the intention of bringing the org to its knees?

I'd like to ask that when posting on this thread, we try to comment with serious thought in mind, just to see what we come up with.

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I will check back here later today, hoping to see opinions on this. Keep in mind, this is not MY opinion, but what I've seen summarized and presented to you. In case you are wondering, I AM a part of the org, and therefore am grouped along with you all.

Perhaps we could change the name of the site to NPGMC.org while we're at it?

Seriously, you have to take a step outside the box and look at the big picture. To someone who has no knowledge of the Prince fan community, it doesn't make a difference. I've noticed recent articles in which quotes from the Org have been included. It's the most popular non-pay fan forum on the Web. I think there's precious little to worry about.

If people want a more nuanced, controlled environment to talk about Prince, it exists and can be enjoyed for twenty five bucks. Speaking for myself, I would be very sad (and would probably come on here far less frequently) if the diversity, free dialog and anything-goes atmosphere of the Org were to be stifled.

I think the moderators are doing a great job on this site, and I think there are a lot of positive examples of thoughtful, productive thinkers on here. Don't mess with a good thing if you can help it.
[This message was edited Thu Aug 21 6:09:54 PDT 2003 by Anxiety]

Prince.org is the "capital" of the Prince nation on the web...so to speak.

New York gets dissed a lot for the same reasons.

I'd hate to see things clamp down around here...I love the freedom.

You might consider adding a prince "fams" forum where the moderation rules eliminate negativity just for that one forum. Seriously.

I noticed that there is a thread about the Org on HouseQuake.com (in their Other Funky Websites forum). Is that what you are talking about?

I'm a cunt!

I don't think you should change anything.
The org is just fine as it is.
If people want to moan about this and that, let them moan - people like to have a good old whinge every now and then and if they're on this site a lot of the time they're bound to find something they're not happy with.
I enjoy this site as well as housequake.com.
The more sites like these the better as far as I'm concerned.

The Org can be a very negative place, but perhaps a lot of that comes from people having nothing else to talk about? Consider that we're not even sure which continent Prince is in, there's not much tangible stuff to talk about. However, despite the negativity towards Prince and his music, by and large we are quite civilised towards each-other, which wasn't the case a couple of years ago if I recall correctly. So that's a good thing.

I think the site itself could be tweaked to be more representative of real Prince-related topics. Sure, GD would still exist, but perhaps a crap GD topic such as (pick one, we all know how sleeazy and off-topic GD can be) shouldn't appear in the most-recent topics list? Perhaps there could be a grouping of forums, those that are on-topic and those that aren't.

The Org is the only Prince site where you can be truly honest in your opinions.

Yes the org gets dissed, this is no doubt true.
We are the 'project kids' of the prince sites.
More to the point, we are the AMERICANS ofthe sites.
By that i mean we catch the most heat because we
are the most active. We fight for our freedoms and
bring criminals to justice
We are more outspoken than the lil namby-pamby goody two shoes sites, not held to kissin fam booty ('less she fine)
We got street cred

Let the General Discussion and Politics & Religion forums have tons of lee-way and rule the other forums with an Iron Fist.

Stop the thread crapping/flames/and meta discussion with a vengence.

Thanks for all the replies so far, it is really just a question to get opinions from you the people who give life to the org.

Nothing is going to happen or is planned, this is just a place to post your opinion.

LaVisHh said:

same old song and dance...

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sorry... wrong thread...

i thought this was the "what are you listening to now" thread edit...
[This message was edited Thu Aug 21 12:17:56 PDT 2003 by EllisDee]

teller said:

ABSO-LUTELY!!! Nicely put Teller - prince.org is indeed the 'New York' of the Prince 'nation' on the web...
Sure, sometime's the apple can be rotten, but mostly, the taste left in your mouth here is sweet.
Come take a bite!
My

teller said:

Exactly right.

For all the criticism, every other Prince forum you go to has people talking about the Org. The Org gets quoted in the press, The Org gets its URL printed on concert tickets

We get criticised because we are the biggest. The people here are just as nice / as awful as they are on every other site.

Either way, there's plenty of room for the Org and other sites too. Why waste time trying to see ourselves through other people's eyes? If people care enough about us to actually HATE the Org, that really is their problem. I dig Housequake, I dig Princefams, and I dig AMP too.

Personally, I dig most of the Prince related sites out there. I prefer the Org though.

sabaisabai said:

I agree and disagree. We created non-Prince-related forums like the General Discussion forum and the Politics & Religion forum because to meet the needs of our users. The site has always been about the "fan community" rather than a straight-up fansite. Our users want to talk about more than just Prince, and that is cool with me.

However your suggest of not listing GD topics on the "recent threads" list is a good one, and probably one that Ben considered in the past.

I don't see the point of posting anywhere when you can't speak your mind (I am not including extremely abrasive or intentionally cruel posts). Come on, isn't that a complete waste of time?!

Anyone with negative comments about the org? What are they? Even if 90% of the people on here hate NEWS or any other shit that comes out, can't they be honest about that? I'm not one to usually scream "celebrate diversity!", but think about it! Does a conversation even exist when everyone "thinks" the same thing about Prince and his music?

INSATIABLE said:

High,

Eye agree with everything INSATIABLE says, and will continue 2 do so no matter what! This is a great conversation, isn't it...

PS does anyone think that maybe if eye start acting nicer, becoming more FAMlike, saying only +ive things about NEWS, Prince might notice me and email me 2 come live with him at the Park? Erm, U guys R way 2 negative here... the ORG with "or" mEaNing "gold" as its PREFIX, ONEder who said "all that gLitTers..." hmmm?

Peace

NPOMC

(New Power Orgnation Music Club)

ian said:

Sorry, I wasn't suggesting that anything was changed with the GD and P&R forums.. just that they have lower representation on the 'hottest topics'. I think it would be helpful if people were able to easier find the on-topic threads if they so choose to. Perhaps a user could toggle between modes in the hottest topics, one mode for relevant threads and one for all threads? One site I go to offers the user a choice whether to 'show noise', which applies to individual messages. I'm like that idea at the forum level, but I'm not suggesting use of the word 'noise'!
[This message was edited Thu Aug 21 18:53:18 PDT 2003 by sabaisabai]

sabaisabai said:

Tricky one, because it would require human intervention to assess what is "on-topic" and what isn't. Good ideas though, I just don't think they are practical to implement. You might end up missing threads you'd like to see etc.

ian said:

I meant to decide what is 'on-topic' at the Forum level. e.g. a thread in Prince: Music.. would be 'on-topic', one in General Discussion not on-topic. So there wouldn't be any need for subjective filtering.. I just think of the situation when I log in and am only interested in the newest Prince/NPGMC/Associated Artists topics, but when I look in hottest topics there may be as few as three of the 25 topics that apply. It would be nice to be able to toggle between 'only on-topic threads' and 'all threads', and get the latest 25 Prince-related threads..

ian said:[quote]

teller said:

Prince concert tickets??

cloud9mission said:[quote]

ian said:

That's what I was thinking...what tickets???

Nikster said:[quote]

cloud9mission said:

For the last ONA tour in Europe, the company who printed the Dutch concert tickets printed "www.prince.org" on them as if it was the official site

ian said:

They DID? No wonder P is pissed! Our punishment is silence for 2003. Yikes.

ian said:

ian said:

u HAVE GOT to be kidding, right?

SpcMs said:

It's true! Someone posted the scanned in photos...

2the9s said:

Seriously, people should read that ENTIRE thread (it's called "Is It Me Or is Prince.org out of control?") to see what LaVisH means and what we're up against. (Poor SnowDove. )

I think we CAN learn about ourselves from thinking about what others say about us. It's what makes us grow!

The Org will always be my home. Best site on the net!

2the9s said:

Wow...

I love the GD forum, but if you want to put your best side forward, the GD isn't it. I'd exclude it from the summary listings, and let it be the "back room."

We also might benefit from a newbie forum, where it is illegal to attack them until they get their legs. And uh...then we attack them! :LOL: