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Reply #30 posted 01/02/20 4:47pm

PennyPurple

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BartVanHemelen said:

mELdOURADOsELVAGEM said:

Interesting, thanks for the schooling. I'm not tech savvy at all and don't know how that works. So do you think it's a simple fix for ben if it's cookies?

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The main problem is that AFAIK the Org runs on a custom version of 20 year old forum software. Usually a bug like the one we're experiencing now would have been caught and fixed in an update aeons ago, but now Ben has to look for it himself. Might even be a quirk related to how the software interacts with a specific version of PHP. It might be easy to solve, but quite frankly date/time issues are among the most annoying issues to pinpoint and fix when it comes to software.

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The most ideal solution would be an update to a current forum software package, buuuuut... that would cost a truckload of time and money. Consider that you'd need to convert the existing database to the one used by the new software: twenty years of posts is a lot of data. Consider that this might require new server hardware. Consider that someone will need to pay for it. Consider that the Org likely has various features that might not be available in that new forum software -- e.g. the way the URLs are formed: now you need to have a solution in place so all old URLs continue to work. Etc etc etc.

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The advantage would be that the Org would finally move with the times, might have nice features like e.g. being able to "like" a post, easy permalinks to posts, mobile friendly lay-out, a proper WYSIWYG editor,... But like I said: this would be a costly and time-consuming affair. A blog I visit regularly has recently upgraded to a current version of Wordpress after being stuck on an older one for years, and it took them months and several dedictaed people to get there, even though their previous version was only half a decade old or so. But then you have a lot of custom functionality that also needs to be ported, various features, millions of comments that needed to be moved to a new database,... And after launch (BTW the site was offline for about a day just for the move) they're still spending a lot of times fixing bugs that only turned up now their full audience is using the site. They've even encountered an issue that can only be fixed by Wordpress itself (due to the millions of comments in the database causing one query to max out the server resources!).

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TBH I don't see that happening here. I doubt you'll get enough people willing to pay up $5 or $10 or $20 one time for such an endeavour, when it is absolutely unclear how much work (and thus money) would need to be involved.

I've offered several times to pitch in and try to get the Org updated, so have others. Still willing to pitch in.

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Reply #31 posted 01/02/20 6:56pm

benni

I just came on site discussion to see if anyone else was having this problem, and see that I'm not alone. I've been having to log in each and every time, even though I click the "remember me". I haven't had to log in unless I've updated my system and deleted my cookies, so this is new.

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Reply #32 posted 01/02/20 8:08pm

FragileUnderto
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Ok so it's not my phone logging me out lol
Cant believe my purple psychedelic pimp slap pimp2

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Reply #33 posted 01/02/20 8:09pm

udo

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If crowdfunding is needed, no problem for me to donate a bit.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #34 posted 01/03/20 1:37pm

TheEnglishGent

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I know it's late but thought I'd chime in with a me too. Never had to log in to the org after clicking remember me. Now I have to log in every time I close the page.

RIP sad
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Reply #35 posted 01/03/20 3:37pm

Pokeno4Money

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I don't mind the glitch, actually I kinda like it.

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Reply #36 posted 01/04/20 12:31am

TheEnglishGent

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Just noticed that if you don’t tick remember me you get logged out every time you go to a different page!
RIP sad
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Reply #37 posted 01/04/20 12:27pm

lust

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Glad it’s not just me then. Been like this for a couple of weeks and it’s fucking annoying.
If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it!
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Reply #38 posted 01/05/20 12:37pm

lust

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So has this issue been acknowledged and being dealt with or are we still rockin the “nothing to see here” Comical Ali approach?
If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it!
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Reply #39 posted 01/05/20 3:39pm

Mumio

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lust said:

So has this issue been acknowledged and being dealt with or are we still rockin the “nothing to see here” Comical Ali approach?




Can we not be rude about this? We don't pay a single penny to use this website and any maintenance issues are done for free by the owner I believe, so I'm gonna say it will be done at his discretion. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Reply #40 posted 01/05/20 3:50pm

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i noticed the login change right after i upgraded to win10 from win7 about two weeks ago.

obviously, this is all my fault.

sorry sad

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we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #41 posted 01/05/20 4:01pm

luv4u

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Mumio said:

lust said:

So has this issue been acknowledged and being dealt with or are we still rockin the “nothing to see here” Comical Ali approach?




Can we not be rude about this? We don't pay a single penny to use this website and any maintenance issues are done for free by the owner I believe, so I'm gonna say it will be done at his discretion. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.


yeahthat

canada

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Reply #42 posted 01/06/20 7:52am

nd33

Word up, somethings fucked with the login system since last week...
Music, sweet music, I wish I could caress and...kiss, kiss...
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Reply #43 posted 01/06/20 1:02pm

TheEnglishGent

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Mumio said:

lust said:

So has this issue been acknowledged and being dealt with or are we still rockin the “nothing to see here” Comical Ali approach?




Can we not be rude about this? We don't pay a single penny to use this website and any maintenance issues are done for free by the owner I believe, so I'm gonna say it will be done at his discretion. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.



Well said.

RIP sad
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Reply #44 posted 01/06/20 9:42pm

lust

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Mumio said:



lust said:


So has this issue been acknowledged and being dealt with or are we still rockin the “nothing to see here” Comical Ali approach?






Can we not be rude about this? We don't pay a single penny to use this website and any maintenance issues are done for free by the owner I believe, so I'm gonna say it will be done at his discretion. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.



Fair comment!

Just had a bad day. Didn’t mean to offend.
If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it!
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Reply #45 posted 01/08/20 10:28pm

Mumio

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lust said:

Mumio said:




Can we not be rude about this? We don't pay a single penny to use this website and any maintenance issues are done for free by the owner I believe, so I'm gonna say it will be done at his discretion. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

Fair comment! Just had a bad day. Didn’t mean to offend.



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Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Reply #46 posted 01/09/20 5:06am

BartVanHemelen

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Do the admins have access to stats about this site? I wouldn't be surprised if this login issue is causing people to post a lot less because they find it too much of a hassle.

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Reply #47 posted 01/09/20 7:17am

udo

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Do the admins need help for this issue?

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #48 posted 01/09/20 1:11pm

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TheEnglishGent said:

Just noticed that if you don’t tick remember me you get logged out every time you go to a different page!

I tick that box every time I log in and still get logged out automatically after a short while, even when I stay on the org and don´t go to another open tab. Before that, I used to stay logged in all the time, even when my computer was turned off completely.

" I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?"
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Reply #49 posted 01/09/20 3:01pm

luv4u

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KoolEaze said:

TheEnglishGent said:

Just noticed that if you don’t tick remember me you get logged out every time you go to a different page!

I tick that box every time I log in and still get logged out automatically after a short while, even when I stay on the org and don´t go to another open tab. Before that, I used to stay logged in all the time, even when my computer was turned off completely.


I'll bring it to the Founders attention.

canada

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"I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben
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Reply #50 posted 01/31/20 10:36am

mELdOURADOsELV
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So this seems to be fixed now? I haven't been signed out aromatically yet.. guess we'll see..
mushy
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Reply #51 posted 01/31/20 2:03pm

LoveGalore

mELdOURADOsELVAGEM said:

So this seems to be fixed now? I haven't been signed out aromatically yet.. guess we'll see..

Just logged in to tell you that, no, it is not fixed. lol

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Reply #52 posted 01/31/20 8:25pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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LoveGalore said:

mELdOURADOsELVAGEM said:

So this seems to be fixed now? I haven't been signed out aromatically yet.. guess we'll see..

Just logged in to tell you that, no, it is not fixed. lol

lol lol lol

Not fixed for me either.

Not at home nor at work.

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Reply #53 posted 01/31/20 10:50pm

Mumio

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Nope, not fixed here either. And not staying logged in has messed up all the email alerts I am supposed to get because I have to be logged in in order for the system to know I have read each alert, if not then I won't get anymore alerts.

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Reply #54 posted 02/01/20 8:31pm

mELdOURADOsELV
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LoveGalore said:



mELdOURADOsELVAGEM said:


So this seems to be fixed now? I haven't been signed out aromatically yet.. guess we'll see..

Just logged in to tell you that, no, it is not fixed. lol


Lol I just signed in to reply 😂 , thank you!
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Reply #55 posted 02/04/20 8:40pm

databank

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Same problem here for a couple of weeks.

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Reply #56 posted 02/04/20 9:14pm

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PennyPurple said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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I've offered several times to pitch in and try to get the Org updated, so have others. Still willing to pitch in.

yeahthat Chop chop !

My highlight, not OP.



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Rest in Peace Bettie Boo. See u soon.
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Reply #57 posted 02/08/20 3:12am

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How/where do we support the efforts to reinstate the autologin bevahiour of this website?

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #58 posted 02/12/20 9:09am

TrivialPursuit

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udo said:

How/where do we support the efforts to reinstate the autologin bevahiour of this website?


Good question. It's curious that this is still happening. It feels like Ben is just completely hands off at this point. And I know Mods can only do so much. They don't control the backend of the site like Ben can.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #59 posted 02/16/20 8:04am

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If it's too expensive or something to fix, if it's not going to be fixed, maybe tell us so we get over it and accept it and move on? Just a suggestion.

Liberty > Authority
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