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Thread started 01/10/03 6:31pm

sambluedolphin

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PAY PAL 4 The Org.

Some sites dat jerously offer their access 3, but allow u 2 make a donation, as they can't run on the amount of IP's they get 8)

So who finances the org. ? Are they on Paisley Parks payroll? 8)

Sam 8)
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Reply #1 posted 01/11/03 9:40am

ian

The Org's bandwidth and server costs are currently financed by Ben (although I have offered to share the burden in that regard!).

At one point I was pushing the idea of "making the Org pay for itself" - i.e. if you get everyone to donate 50 cents or something it would probably cover the costs of bandwidth etc. But that'd be a controversial one maybe...
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Reply #2 posted 01/11/03 6:44pm

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As I understand it, although Ben (and the rest of the prince.org Staff) truly appreciate donation offers, we'd prefer not to take them because, among other reasons:

1) It could create an appearance that certain .org members have "bought" themselves special treatment. For example, if the .org community feels that Joe Doakes has been violating our rules and not been "punished" appropriately by the .org Staff, and then it becomes known that Joe gave us $100, well, people are going to allege that we're going easy on Joe because he gave us money.


2) Ben would prefer that people financially support the .org, if they desire to do so, by purchasing stuff from our "Shop." Unfortunately, the Shop is down for now--I assume it has to do with Ben's move to Spain.
Please note: effective March 21, 2010, I've stepped down from my prince.org Moderator position.
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Reply #3 posted 01/11/03 9:04pm

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dammit... i was hoping that i could just send in some money anytime i felt like flaming someone...
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Reply #4 posted 01/12/03 5:57am

ian

matt said:


1) It could create an appearance that certain .org members have "bought" themselves special treatment. For example, if the .org community feels that Joe Doakes has been violating our rules and not been "punished" appropriately by the .org Staff, and then it becomes known that Joe gave us $100, well, people are going to allege that we're going easy on Joe because he gave us money.


Yeah this was my concern too... in paying some amount of money (even a small amount) there is a sense that you are paying for a service and you can expect a certain level of "quality of service" and treatment etc. I like the fact that the site is free and we don't owe anyone anything razz biggrin
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Reply #5 posted 01/12/03 5:57am

ian

EllisDee said:

dammit... i was hoping that i could just send in some money anytime i felt like flaming someone...


With that in mind I'm quite open to bribery biggrin
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Reply #6 posted 01/13/03 2:59am

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ian said:

matt said:


1) It could create an appearance that certain .org members have "bought" themselves special treatment. For example, if the .org community feels that Joe Doakes has been violating our rules and not been "punished" appropriately by the .org Staff, and then it becomes known that Joe gave us $100, well, people are going to allege that we're going easy on Joe because he gave us money.


Yeah this was my concern too... in paying some amount of money (even a small amount) there is a sense that you are paying for a service and you can expect a certain level of "quality of service" and treatment etc. I like the fact that the site is free and we don't owe anyone anything razz biggrin

Plus I wouldnt imagine it would be fair to ban members that had been so generous. What about an anonymous dontaion. Is that possible??
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Reply #7 posted 01/13/03 9:26am

teller

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perhaps i'll have to go ahead buy a prince.org product then...i've gotten my money's worth already! smile
Fear is the mind-killer.
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Reply #8 posted 01/14/03 2:12am

Savannah

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matt said:

As I understand it, although Ben (and the rest of the prince.org Staff) truly appreciate donation offers, we'd prefer not to take them because, among other reasons:

1) It could create an appearance that certain .org members have "bought" themselves special treatment. For example, if the .org community feels that Joe Doakes has been violating our rules and not been "punished" appropriately by the .org Staff, and then it becomes known that Joe gave us $100, well, people are going to allege that we're going easy on Joe because he gave us money.


2) Ben would prefer that people financially support the .org, if they desire to do so, by purchasing stuff from our "Shop." Unfortunately, the Shop is down for now--I assume it has to do with Ben's move to Spain.


When is the shop going to re-open?
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Reply #9 posted 01/17/03 6:05am

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matt said:

As I understand it, although Ben (and the rest of the prince.org Staff) truly appreciate donation offers, we'd prefer not to take them because, among other reasons:

1) It could create an appearance that certain .org members have "bought" themselves special treatment. For example, if the .org community feels that Joe Doakes has been violating our rules and not been "punished" appropriately by the .org Staff, and then it becomes known that Joe gave us $100, well, people are going to allege that we're going easy on Joe because he gave us money.


2) Ben would prefer that people financially support the .org, if they desire to do so, by purchasing stuff from our "Shop." Unfortunately, the Shop is down for now--I assume it has to do with Ben's move to Spain.


So this place is the total opposite of NPGMC.
NPGMC: you HAVE to pay. ORG: you CAN'T, although people want it.
NPGMC: online shop is open, site is down. ORG: shop is closed, site is open.
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Reply #10 posted 01/19/03 6:57pm

sambluedolphin

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matt said:

As I understand it, although Ben (and the rest of the prince.org Staff) truly appreciate donation offers, we'd prefer not to take them because, among other reasons:

1) It could create an appearance that certain .org members have "bought" themselves special treatment. For example, if the .org community feels that Joe Doakes has been violating our rules and not been "punished" appropriately by the .org Staff, and then it becomes known that Joe gave us $100, well, people are going to allege that we're going easy on Joe because he gave us money.


2) Ben would prefer that people financially support the .org, if they desire to do so, by purchasing stuff from our "Shop." Unfortunately, the Shop is down for now--I assume it has to do with Ben's move to Spain.


Valid points, but tell me are u pushed 4 $'s? i wonder, cuz u must no get no revenue from advertising, so weres it all commin from? Its up 2 u if u wann tell, completely ur choice 8) But i'll say this i have seen thousands of Prince sites, but none are as accurate, organised, or informative as this 1 . Send the check in the post 8) make it out 2 guywhospatronisin wink


Sam 8)
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Reply #11 posted 01/20/03 2:23am

ian

sambluedolphin said:


Valid points, but tell me are u pushed 4 $'s? i wonder, cuz u must no get no revenue from advertising, so weres it all commin from? Its up 2 u if u wann tell, completely ur choice 8) But i'll say this i have seen thousands of Prince sites, but none are as accurate, organised, or informative as this 1 . Send the check in the post 8) make it out 2 guywhospatronisin wink
Sam 8)



No we don't get any revenue - there's no advertising as you say. The costs of running a website aren't really that high - the most expensive thing is probably time (Ben's, Matt's and mine). The hosting and bandwidth costs are currently handled by Ben - so if you ever meet him, buy him a pint to say thanks smile
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Reply #12 posted 01/22/03 1:07pm

sambluedolphin

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ian said:

sambluedolphin said:


Valid points, but tell me are u pushed 4 $'s? i wonder, cuz u must no get no revenue from advertising, so weres it all commin from? Its up 2 u if u wann tell, completely ur choice 8) But i'll say this i have seen thousands of Prince sites, but none are as accurate, organised, or informative as this 1 . Send the check in the post 8) make it out 2 guywhospatronisin wink
Sam 8)



No we don't get any revenue - there's no advertising as you say. The costs of running a website aren't really that high - the most expensive thing is probably time (Ben's, Matt's and mine). The hosting and bandwidth costs are currently handled by Ben - so if you ever meet him, buy him a pint to say thanks smile


Cool 8) may i suggest 2 lightin ur load wink i am available 8) the only qualifications i have are bein obssessed with Prince 4 over 10 years, bein a dedicated orger wink and a first diploma in stayin on the computer all-night 8)

Ben, i'll do more than buy him a drink, i'll buy him a 3 course meal and a tequila 4 his jenerosity. I heard hes in Spain now?

Sam 8)
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Reply #13 posted 01/27/03 2:58pm

Haystack

Through a secure server, I would happily donate £5.00 per year to help pay for the Org, should it ever need it. Honestly.
This is the most amazingly addictive site that I visit on the 'net. And considering that it's for free...

In my opinion, an anonymous donation process would be good.
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Reply #14 posted 02/05/03 3:39pm

ben

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JeePee said:

So this place is the total opposite of NPGMC.
NPGMC: you HAVE to pay. ORG: you CAN'T, although people want it.
NPGMC: online shop is open, site is down. ORG: shop is closed, site is open.

I literally "laughed out loud" at this. Thanks smile

Maybe one day we'll do anonymous donations or something... for now, I've got it covered smile
Again, I really appreciate that you guys would be willing to help out if needed. If it ever becomes necessary, I'll shout.
ben -- "the prince.org guy"
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