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I like the idea of a comment thread. Very nice addition.

I'm more than cool with Prince releasing tracks to other sites, and voted as such in the poll. Though I'm not a lotusflow3r.com member, I can certainly understand the frustration that Prince's official site brings to paying subscribers when they see it become a neglected black hole. That said, anyone who's been a fan for any length of time should know that this is how Prince chooses to operate his business ventures.

I'd love to know how many actually joined up.

That might be why.

I hardly ever visit LF. I went there last night to check the lyrics of something from MPLSound. Otherwise, what's the point?
Having said that, it seems unfair to have paid $77 when people can get "exclusive" stuff from anywhere.

But trust me, I'm not losing sleep, starting hate threads or melting down my collection...

I had to think REALLY hard what LF stood for even

Prince can and will do whatever he wants and has the right to do

I really could care less

I mean seriously ...

I bought a lotusflow3r membership so I could get advanced seating to concerts.

I r pissed.

Oohh. The opinion poll is neck and neck right now. It's like a horse race. No Bria jokes, please.

It doesn't matter to me. I would love it if it was on LF.com but if that's not where the new music is, then that's not where it is. Nothing I can do about it now. I just want to hear it when it comes out. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Dauphin said:

That is the ONLY reason I would have considered parting with £... but he hasn't realised any further UK dates. I have a wait and see policy for LF membership still waiting

Absolutely LOVE that he leaks info and music to other sites... it really wets the appetite and he knows it

squirrelgrease said:

couldnt have said it better myself

i especially like the poll comment thread, yes or no just doesnt explain why

interesting that the poll is 50/50 (well at least it was when i voted)

No I am not okay with it. I think it's pretty fucked up of him to do it. But being a fan for forever, I am not surprised by it. Prince saying something and then doing something else is par for the course. Fans rewarding his bad behavior is also par for the course.

Dauphin said:

that was what I mainly got it for as well and people who purchased through tickemaster had better seats than I did

ZombieKitten said:

If he actually made his website something worthwhile and beneficial to his customers, he'd have had no problems getting people to join.


Now I have to imagine, (I didn't join) that it's just like a heeled boot kick in the face to those that did, every time he releases something on Dr. FB site instead of the site they paid their money to join.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

say if LF had 2000 members
it's a very small audience!

Prince can do whatever the heck he wants with his music. I joined lotusflow3r to get tickets for his shows and I did get them in a round about way.

ZombieKitten said:

But it's his fault it's a very small audience. He's been alienating longterm fans for ages, he charged a high price for it, and he didn't put anything good on the site. Then he refuses to add anything of value to honor his commitment to the fans who did sign up. All of this is on him, so it doesn't make sense to me to justify the situation that he created.

My main problem with this situation is that he's well aware of what he's doing and how he's creating a giant rift in his own fan community, could easily fix it, but prefers to instigate negativity. He must be a man of very intense anger and bitterness right now.

Hmm..let me see. I have no problem with tracks being given to other sites outside of the LF site, but in all fairness, those sites outside of the LF site, should only be given a snippet of a track; the full track should be offered on the LF site only, and probably with a bonus track, (if offered) since many that joined LF, were told they would get exclusive material, and I think a rehearsal track from Prince, fits right up there with exclusive material.

For a video of a recent concert, to suddenly pop up on a random blogger's youtube site, was a bit surprising and questionable, seeing how many fans already know how P feels about anyone putting his videos/music on youtube. I mean is he sending a message that it is okay for fans to do so now? Also, why wasn't that concert clip on the LF site or DrFunkenberry's site, in which Drfunkenberry's site seems to have been a credible source of info since last year anyway, instead of some random blogger's youtube site?


Just my two cents.
[Edited 9/28/09 7:02am]

I didn't join LF so I really don't give a shit.

I went into Lotusflower knowing it was a risky venture.Releasing stuff on other sites is still a shitty thing to do.

ZombieKitten said:

Me too.

I'm not. As of right now, Lotu$flower is a rip-off.

I have not joined, but I don't feel that it's okay to enter into a contract with thousands of people, promising them exclusive material in return of paying 77$ up front, only to leave the site empty and offer that "exclusive" material on other, free sites.

It doesn't matter whether fans should know better by now that every Prince internet venture turns out to be another rip off experience. It's simply wrong, legally and morally.

Therefore I find it also sad to see so many fans have an attitude of Prince can do whatever he pleases and that he even has the right to do so. That's simply not true and an invitation to the man to never improve his business practices.

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Tremolina said:

Tremolina said:

Seriously ... I could care less if he does or does not
"improve his business practices " I think his actions and lack there of have spoken for him for yrs and yrs now

doing what he can/does and will do is exactly truth - it's been proven time and again by him to his "fans"

but i'm not invested in lil Mr Prince anymore like some are - if they choose to feel slighted and hold higher expectations from him - then cool

I think that's a bit sad

Mach said:

Yes I agree with that too, but the buck starts and stops with Prince. CONtracts should be honored, he knows all too well.

It would make him a more respectable human being, which I think most fans would appreciate.

Too bad indeed that some will keep on throwing their money to him handing over their asses for another bad fucking.


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Mach said:

I was just surprised that a clip of one of his concerts ended up on some random blogger's youtube site, when all the while, it was Drfunkenberry's site which has been the site that kept fans updated on any Prince info.

Kind of makes you wonder, why wasn't that clip the random blogger had, given to Drfunkenberry's site instead. Not to mention why it wasn't on the LF site. I mean I appreciate the goodies, like surprise tracks, but the question is where exactly is he allowing such unexpected material to be placed these days?Especially when you can't tell if the info is from a credible source outside of his LF or Drfunkenberry's site.
[Edited 9/28/09 7:53am]

Prince can do what he likes. Not a problem with me.
I would join the LF site if I had the money despite all the bitching I've seen in here on the matter. I hope in the near future I'll be able to. I like seeing/hearing stuff from him. The source is indifferent.

I've already made my point with this topic but what I want to know is:

If someone wants to keep on "throwing" money at Prince after the LF situation, why would that be a bad thing, especially if those fans don't think its been bad for them?

Does anyone here think that by not "throwing" money at Prince, whether its for another website or his future music, it's going to make Prince change his ways?

This is NOT a reflection of where I am with this issue, but these are just questions I'm interested in hearing you guys respond to.

Wait a minute - does the membership state that NO material can be published exclusively on any other website besides LF? I think not. So, he did nothing wrong - he can still give the dumbasses that again gave him money exclusive material, that is probably his position on it.