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Reply #60 posted 02/16/09 10:19am

Vendetta1

dothejump said:

Vendetta1 said:

Putting the HQ.com logo on the bottom insinuates ownership by HQ.


Prince's people didn't have a problem with the HQ logo. They used a pic with the logo in the first printing of the O2 tourbook.smile

Vendetta1 said:

Originally posted at HQ.com is a misnomer, too because I am sure that I would be able to find at least a few of the pics that were posted elsewhere first.


You might have seen the pic before but not the specific scan. We only used the logo on scans made by our own members.
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Yeah, that makes it okay. thumbs up!
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Reply #61 posted 02/16/09 10:23am

Vendetta1

dothejump said:

unique said:

guys, the intention of this thread is to partly find out what HQ had that the org doesn't,


I know what the intention of your thread was but I think the discussions make clear what the difference between the org and HQ are (were). And in my opinion the sites could always exist next to each other because of those differences. And therefore I think it is almost impossible to give prince.org a change so it will become more focussed on facts. But you never know smile
If anyone was not focused on facts, it's HQ.
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Reply #62 posted 02/16/09 10:26am

unique

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dothejump said:

unique said:

guys, the intention of this thread is to partly find out what HQ had that the org doesn't,


I know what the intention of your thread was but I think the discussions make clear what the difference between the org and HQ are (were). And in my opinion the sites could always exist next to each other because of those differences. And therefore I think it is almost impossible to give prince.org a change so it will become more focussed on facts. But you never know smile


i think it can become more focused on facts than it currently is, but not more focused on facts that whatever it's currently focused on (showing insanity of it's members? LOL)

i'm just suggesting that we could maybe add a bit more of the factual info, and perhaps allow people to discuss it in the same geeky manner whilst letting others ignore it and discuss the colour of his pants and smell of his armpitts in another part of the site

i also thought that perhaps some of the main contributers to HQ with the info i refer to would perhaps help contribute with that info to the org, or some other place if the org doesn't make a place for it. but considering what some people are posting about HQ i can't blame them if they don't want to, but then again, why should a few openly vocal negative comments spoil it for the others who do want it? personally, i say fuck them if they don't want it, they don't have to read it, but there are plenty of people who do want it, and this is for them. and hopefully others will maybe get that attitude too
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Reply #63 posted 02/16/09 10:27am

dothejump

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Vendetta1 said:

dothejump said:



You might have seen the pic before but not the specific scan. We only used the logo on scans made by our own members.
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Yeah, that makes it okay. thumbs up!


Are you running out of arguments? The easiest defense for the logos is the following: The scans were meant to be posted on HQ. HQ members didn't have a problem with. So why should people from other websites have a problem with it? There was no obligation to visit the photo forum on HQ.

Vendetta1 said:

dothejump said:



I know what the intention of your thread was but I think the discussions make clear what the difference between the org and HQ are (were). And in my opinion the sites could always exist next to each other because of those differences. And therefore I think it is almost impossible to give prince.org a change so it will become more focussed on facts. But you never know smile
If anyone was not focused on facts, it's HQ.


We had a couple of the best Prince researchers on HQ. Some of them used to work on The Vault. So now you are saying that The Vault sucks too? A lot of Prince fans think different about that.
Formerly known as Parade @ HQ and formerly proud owner of www.paradetour.com
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Reply #64 posted 02/16/09 10:28am

unique

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Vendetta1 said:

I see no reason the Org should do anything to accommodate HQ.


i'm not suggesting that at all. i'm asking what the org can do to accomodate the fans in what the org lacked that HQ had. we are all fans of the same artist
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Reply #65 posted 02/16/09 10:30am

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unique said:


i also thought that perhaps some of the main contributers to HQ with the info i refer to would perhaps help contribute with that info to the org, or some other place if the org doesn't make a place for it.


That information is not lost. And maybe one day it will show up somewhere but I think it is still a bit too soon after the closing of HQ. (=my personal opinion)
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Reply #66 posted 02/16/09 10:32am

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Vendetta1 said:

dothejump said:



I know what the intention of your thread was but I think the discussions make clear what the difference between the org and HQ are (were). And in my opinion the sites could always exist next to each other because of those differences. And therefore I think it is almost impossible to give prince.org a change so it will become more focussed on facts. But you never know smile
If anyone was not focused on facts, it's HQ.


i get the impression from your sig "Praying to the baby jesus that Housequake opens again soon.", profile, username and other posts that you are simply trolling
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Reply #67 posted 02/16/09 10:33am

Vendetta1

dothejump said:

Vendetta1 said:

If anyone was not focused on facts, it's HQ.


We had a couple of the best Prince researchers on HQ. Some of them used to work on The Vault. So now you are saying that The Vault sucks too? A lot of Prince fans think different about that.
There are plenty of people here that are well versed on Prince facts. To insinuate otherwise is an insult.
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Reply #68 posted 02/16/09 10:37am

Vendetta1

unique said:

Vendetta1 said:

If anyone was not focused on facts, it's HQ.


i get the impression from your sig "Praying to the baby jesus that Housequake opens again soon.", profile, username and other posts that you are simply trolling
Oh pulease, don't flatter yourself. I had Vendetta before HQ closed down. And, no I am not trolling. I do not have to shoot sunshine up HQ members asses. I disagree with what went down over there. I am entitled to state that opinion and judging from other posts here, I am not the only one. Do you consider them to be trolling, too?
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Reply #69 posted 02/16/09 10:37am

unique

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dothejump said:

unique said:


i also thought that perhaps some of the main contributers to HQ with the info i refer to would perhaps help contribute with that info to the org, or some other place if the org doesn't make a place for it.


That information is not lost. And maybe one day it will show up somewhere but I think it is still a bit too soon after the closing of HQ. (=my personal opinion)
smile


oh, i know it's not lost, but i can't think of any valid reason why it shouldn't go back online ASAP

i mean, i have a considerable chunk of information i could simply cut and paste and stick online here or elsewhere in a few minutes and fill most of the gaps i'm talking about, but i'd prefer it if those who compiled it originally posted it themselves with thier own blessing, than upset someone who has spent a lot of time putting it together by posting it myself

i'm hoping that fans can regroup and come together and start working together and get a good online resource back in place for fans, without further fighting and upsetting people. if the don't/won't, then i could perhaps satisfy my mind that i've done what i can do it it the nice way, and go ahead and do it the other way if that's the only way to get it done. but i'm sure it doesn't have to come to that
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Reply #70 posted 02/16/09 10:38am

dothejump

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Vendetta1 said:

dothejump said:



We had a couple of the best Prince researchers on HQ. Some of them used to work on The Vault. So now you are saying that The Vault sucks too? A lot of Prince fans think different about that.
There are plenty of people here that are well versed on Prince facts. To insinuate otherwise is an insult.



I didn't say that. You said that HQ was not focussed on facts, so I made clear that there were quite some good researchers. I never said that there are no other good researchers.

BTW Have you ever visited the HQ resource guide?
Formerly known as Parade @ HQ and formerly proud owner of www.paradetour.com
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Reply #71 posted 02/16/09 10:40am

Vendetta1

dothejump said:

Vendetta1 said:

There are plenty of people here that are well versed on Prince facts. To insinuate otherwise is an insult.



I didn't say that. You said that HQ was not focussed on facts, so I made clear that there were quite some good researchers. I never said that there are no other good researchers.

BTW Have you ever visited the HQ resource guide?
Yes I did.
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Reply #72 posted 02/16/09 10:41am

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^And you found fiction (as opposed to facts) there?
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Reply #73 posted 02/16/09 10:45am

mdiver

Reverend said:

Cuddles said:

FIRST! biggrin


It didn't have posts like this.

There's no point trying to change this place to be like HQ. There are many good people here I'm sure but because of the vastness and unwieldiness of this site (due to the sheer number of people here) you're always going to get a lot of idiots spoiling it.

I'm sure the mods do the best they can but having seen some of the rampant flaming and trolling that goes on, I can't see this place ever being like HQ. So you either except the Org for what it is, or you go elsewhere.


There is a reason this site is big and diverse
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Reply #74 posted 02/16/09 10:47am

Vendetta1

mdiver said:

Reverend said:



It didn't have posts like this.

There's no point trying to change this place to be like HQ. There are many good people here I'm sure but because of the vastness and unwieldiness of this site (due to the sheer number of people here) you're always going to get a lot of idiots spoiling it.

I'm sure the mods do the best they can but having seen some of the rampant flaming and trolling that goes on, I can't see this place ever being like HQ. So you either except the Org for what it is, or you go elsewhere.


There is a reason this site is big and diverse
I love how it's inferred that there was no flaming or trolling on HQ.
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Reply #75 posted 02/16/09 10:50am

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^Who says that? Of course there is flaming and trolling on every big internet forum.
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Reply #76 posted 02/16/09 10:50am

mdiver

Vendetta1 said:

mdiver said:



There is a reason this site is big and diverse
I love how it's inferred that there was no flaming or trolling on HQ.


So many comments smack of the old "there are no REAL fans here" falloff Not that i care, i think Prince is a censored
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Reply #77 posted 02/16/09 10:54am

Vendetta1

dothejump said:

^Who says that? Of course there is flaming and trolling on every big internet forum.
Read the Reverend's post.
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Reply #78 posted 02/16/09 10:55am

dothejump

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Vendetta1 said:

I love how it's inferred that there was no flaming or trolling on HQ.



Vendetta1, if you didn't like HQ that's cool. Different strokes for different folks. But don't bring up all kind of stuff that simply isn't true. smile
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Reply #79 posted 02/16/09 11:26am

Vendetta1

dothejump said:

Vendetta1 said:

I love how it's inferred that there was no flaming or trolling on HQ.



Vendetta1, if you didn't like HQ that's cool. Different strokes for different folks. But don't bring up all kind of stuff that simply isn't true. smile
I've taken this thread off track and for that I apologize. Nothing I've said is not true. I did not care for HQ but I have no reason to lie about my experience there.
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Reply #80 posted 02/16/09 4:05pm

muskiediver

What I like about HQ was the look. And it is easy to access information.

What I did not like is the ego tripping some of the moderators did when their opinion differed from yours.
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Reply #81 posted 02/16/09 4:07pm

mdiver

muskiediver said:

What I like about HQ was the look. And it is easy to access information.

What I did not like is the ego tripping some of the moderators did when their opinion differed from yours.


Dont worry we get that here too falloff
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Reply #82 posted 02/16/09 6:32pm

babynoz

IMO the culture of the two sites is too different. HQ was unmatched as far as comprehensive information and functionality is concerned. I really appreciated being able to look up things like song lyrics, release dates, tour info, etc all in one place.

Personally, I never had any issues there whatsoever. The few times I interacted there with a member or mod there were no problems.

The Org is more of a social environment though. Very few people would respond to you on HQ if you weren't well known whereas someone will always talk to you here. Bottom line, I like both sites for different reasons.

There were just as many er..."colorful characters" on both sites but I noticed that on hq they were shut down with a quickness, lol could be the reason for some of the bitterness expressed on the other thread?

Anyhoo, the issues that existed between HQ, the Org and PP is something I choose not to dwell on because I think it's better left to the principals involved to sort out. My input, unless asked for, serves no purpose.

Back on topic, I don't think anything needs to be added here. If anybody would like to put together a site similar to HQ they're probably better off doing it elsewhere.
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #83 posted 02/17/09 12:25am

SoulAlive

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Vendetta1 said:

I thought we were done with the us v. them mentality?

One site is not any better or worse than the other.



HQ got news faster and it seemed like there was a wide variety of "real" fans there of all ages and nationalities. It was very organized. Especially when it came down to the trading and taping of unreleased Prince music. When it had the videos and pictures, I thought they could have almost charged a membership fee -it was so good.

A few things I would change about the Org would be the ugly purple background, and delete accounts more often - esp. anyone who continuously posts threads about MJ, Beyonce, Janet, Britney, etc. Or anyone who complains about today's music. Then again, I guess Prince fans are getting old. I did not feel that way over at Housequake though.



You really think the moderators should delete the accounts of people who complain about today's music? lol That would be about 90% of the folks who post in the Music:Non Prince forum...lol...
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Reply #84 posted 02/17/09 12:52am

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japanrocks said:

Vendetta1 said:

I thought we were done with the us v. them mentality?

One site is not any better or worse than the other.



HQ got news faster and it seemed like there was a wide variety of "real" fans there of all ages and nationalities. It was very organized. Especially when it came down to the trading and taping of unreleased Prince music. When it had the videos and pictures, I thought they could have almost charged a membership fee -it was so good.

A few things I would change about the Org would be the ugly purple background, and delete accounts more often - esp. anyone who continuously posts threads about MJ, Beyonce, Janet, Britney, etc. Or anyone who complains about today's music. Then again, I guess Prince fans are getting old. I did not feel that way over at Housequake though.

'Real Prince Fans'. lol

How utterly pompous. Just because the site spawned a culture of monolithic drones , polite, and subdued compared to the org, doesn't make them anymore 'real' than prince.org fans.

There's absolutely no feature of housequake I prefer over the org, and I certainly don't want that weird ass quazi-npgmc vibe bleeding into the org. Hell, I even hated their emoticons.

The only thing fun about housequake was all the unauthorized and illegal videos that used be posted with great frequency back in the day.
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Reply #85 posted 02/17/09 2:17am

freakyfeet

BSOD said:

japanrocks said:




HQ got news faster and it seemed like there was a wide variety of "real" fans there of all ages and nationalities. It was very organized. Especially when it came down to the trading and taping of unreleased Prince music. When it had the videos and pictures, I thought they could have almost charged a membership fee -it was so good.

A few things I would change about the Org would be the ugly purple background, and delete accounts more often - esp. anyone who continuously posts threads about MJ, Beyonce, Janet, Britney, etc. Or anyone who complains about today's music. Then again, I guess Prince fans are getting old. I did not feel that way over at Housequake though.

'Real Prince Fans'. lol

How utterly pompous. Just because the site spawned a culture of monolithic drones , polite, and subdued compared to the org, doesn't make them anymore 'real' than prince.org fans.

There's absolutely no feature of housequake I prefer over the org, and I certainly don't want that weird ass quazi-npgmc vibe bleeding into the org. Hell, I even hated their emoticons.

The only thing fun about housequake was all the unauthorized and illegal videos that used be posted with great frequency back in the day.



"Illegal videos" lol

Get a grip.
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Reply #86 posted 02/17/09 4:08am

Tremolina

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Do you really think nobody here trades through the orgnotes? All saints?


Look don't assume thinsg I haven't said ok? It's the worst way to 'debate'; assuming and insinuating somebody said something when they didn't.

I never said that this doesnt happen on the org. I have said that it appears that HQ members first traded publically and later (AFTER they got their asses kicked for it) continued privately via the same site.
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Reply #87 posted 02/17/09 4:31am

anc282

The thing that I liked the best about Housequake was whenever you clicked on "User CP," it would automatically tell you who quoted you. Sometimes folks wouldn't write anything, which would then result in a blank space beside the title of the thread. Still, it was cool to see who responded. The Org doesn't do that, which I think is kinda rough. Oh well.
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Reply #88 posted 02/17/09 4:35am

freakyfeet

Tremolina said:

vc40 said:

Do you really think nobody here trades through the orgnotes? All saints?


Look don't assume thinsg I haven't said ok? It's the worst way to 'debate'; assuming and insinuating somebody said something when they didn't.

I never said that this doesnt happen on the org. I have said that it appears that HQ members first traded publically and later (AFTER they got their asses kicked for it) continued privately via the same site.


Proof ?
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Reply #89 posted 02/17/09 8:53am

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^ Proof? Haha... Why spoil a good story with the truth? All it really comes down to is "someone on HQ told me". Playground tales.
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