itsshananaok said:

One thing that is important to keep in mind about the .org is, whether you find it to be for better or for worse, the mods on this site are not the same people as the mods at HQ, and we operate from a completely different set of rules and guidelines, due to the fact that these two sites were each created and are each owned by two separate people.

While there may be similarities in how we run the sites, it's probably not a good idea to get in the mindset of, "well HQ did it THIS way, so should the .org..." - by the same token, if something worked for you over there, hey, let us know. We're always looking to improve (believe it or not).

Anxiety said:

Be happy about that:-P

Moderators can never make decisions that every single member agrees with. Not on the org, not on HQ, not on any other website

mcmeekle said:

Would it help to notify more than one mod when someone sees something they think should be brought to the mods' attention?


Something to the effect of "This is what I see. This is where I saw it. I've notified you and this/these other mod(s)."


Then more than one mod knows. They can come together quickly. Take in a group mod view and act as they see fit.

Isn't that what the "report" button does ?

freakyfeet said:

Don't know if you're saying this in regards to my comment, but I also do not know if it goes to more than one mod when you use the "report" button.

freakyfeet said:

You would think that, but some people are reported all the time with no consequence, especially when it is clear they are hostile to more than just one or two people. I know why they are given a pass, it would just be a VERY unpopular opinion.

GetAwayFromMe said:

So true.

Nothinbutjoy said:

When you hit the report button, it goes to all the mods that moderate that particular forum.

Nikademus said:

Good to know

Nikademus said:

An email goes to each mod for that forum, yes. But I don't think I'm wrong in saying we don't all look at every single report. If I open the thread and the report has already been handled, I don't bother to look at it as I know another mod has taken care of it.

However, every mod action is noted on a user's account. So if we need to take mod action on someone in the future, the notes from everything that's happened in the past are there, so we know if this is the first time or the hundredth time we've had to snip someone's post, etc.

In addition, we share information and ask advice of each other on a mod mailing list (that includes ALL mods and Ben) if we have an unusual circumstance or something we think is beyond the typical flame or whatever. We'll often discuss there if something warrants a ban or not. Not always, mind you, but it's a tool we use to gain each other's input. And we don't always all agree on one course of action. But we do come to an understanding there, etc.

I know it has been suggested, but I simply don't think it's practical or efficent for more than one mod to look at every single report that comes in and come to a censensus before taking action. Most reports are fairly clear and can easily be handled by one of us.

CarrieMpls said:

Not knowing the sheer volume of reports ya'll deal with I am certain that is true, but, should any user start to become, shall we say, a frequent flier, maybe ya'll can come together, review the history etc...

If, of course, ya'll don't do that already.

Nothinbutjoy said:

We are dong this more and more on a consistant basis = good and we are communicating directly with Ben more as well

I have not been a Mod here very long overall but our practices and
co-operation as a unit is becomming much better over the past several months

Mach said:

Mach said:

So when's SOSGemini coming back so things go back to normal ?

Nothinbutjoy said:

freakyfeet said:

I think he has made it very clear that his interest in being a p.org Mod is over

It's very simple how this works.

If the mods agree with member's opinions or just plain like them personally, they get a pass to do whatever they want. Supa for example is an org veteran who seems to be a mod fave. He can post the most hateful and offensive posts, with no consequence.

Reporting posts to mods only works against those who the mods disagree with personally. Reports against mod faves generally go ignored, while the non faves get snipped, warned, and even banned. It's all a game of favorites.

There's also severe political bias with the mods. If you express right wing view points, watch out! The org life of a right winger generally goes like this: Express right wing opinion, get attacked personally by liberals, defend yourself, get banned. The mods like to ban right wingers because A: They don't like political diversity, and B: They get tired of getting reports from members.

The lifespan of a right winger on this site is very short unless they occasionally swing to the left and be PC. If not, the dogs will attack and someone will find an excuse to get rid of them.

One common method of banning right wingers and others who have opposing view points is to label them "trolls." Someone may have a great topic for discussion, but if it doesn't match the views of the masses, they get branded and accused of posting "offensive" material for the sake of starting trouble. It's much easier to label someone a troll than to debate their point.

The mods definitely use their power to shut people up when they disagree with their viewpoints. The org is a private site and the mods have been given the freedom to do whatever they want, but it doesn't have to be such a dictatorship.The"rules" should be more clear. The word "offensive" can be interpreted in a million ways. I can say I don't like Prince's hair style, and if the mods don't like me, they can say I made an offensive comment and then silence me.

So what it all comes down to is, be PC, express left wing view points or none at all, and kiss the mods' asses as much as possible. That's how yow survive on this site.

SaltyDog said:

You created this account JUST to post that didn't you? Having said that it is pretty close to the truth about being onside or not with the mods.

SaltyDog said:

I have to say that I've noticed this also. Though I think its cause people have nothing better than when they get pissy to notify the mods at every lil thing instead of just ignoring the comment and going outside and play.

mdiver said:

Yeah. Unfortunately, we have to create new accounts from time to time in order to get certain point across. Mods don't like complainers. It's just a matter of time before I get called a "troll" for posting this and get silenced.

SaltyDog said:

I think the words "troll" and "bait" are used waaaaay too often around here.

mcmeekle said:

Its the easy way out plain and simple. Hell I'm more liberal than most on here, but when I don't agree with some certain people here I'm suddenly a troll or a republican. Which I don't know which offends me more.

lazycrockett said:

Agreed. And I should know, I'm a Master Baiter.

mcmeekle said:

Wait, that came out wrong.....

SaltyDog said:

Says the alter

I have been warned and snipped by mods. That doesn't sound like a free pass to me Reveal yourself to me in orgnote. I won't tell! I never have.

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mcmeekle said:

I'm glad you brought that up. The term "bait" is another one that gets thrown around a lot. If people don't like your expression of an opinion, they can just call it bait and have you silenced.

The issue is that people here would rather have others silenced than to debate their point. The orgers take pleasure in reporting people and the mods take pleasure in flexing their muscle.

SaltyDog said:

btw, I've been accused of baiting and had totally awesome threads locked and shut down. Seems liberals aren't the only ones crying to the mods

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Oh please. You get away with posting some really ugly stuff, things that others get banned over. You're here to stay buddy. Threaten my life if you want. See if the mods give a damn.