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Thread started 09/04/08 8:05pm

Janfriend

Is P&R needed?

With the numerous issues in the past regarding moderation, the vile attitudes of some, and the name calling, why is this forum still in existence on a musician fansite? No good comes from it. All people do is fight in that place. Certain people get away with cruelty because they've conned moderators. Why can't it be removed like the love and relationships forum?
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Reply #1 posted 09/04/08 8:16pm

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Reply #2 posted 09/04/08 8:22pm

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i wouldn't be heartbroken at all if P&R went the way of the dinosaur.

but then we'd have political-themed threads popping up in general discussion, and the same energy would pop up and infect GD.

so maybe it's better that all of the...shall we say EMPASSIONED DEBATE, lol...remain in its own forum.
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Reply #3 posted 09/04/08 8:25pm

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Anxiety said:

i wouldn't be heartbroken at all if P&R went the way of the dinosaur.

but then we'd have political-themed threads popping up in general discussion, and the same energy would pop up and infect GD.

so maybe it's better that all of the...shall we say EMPASSIONED DEBATE, lol...remain in its own forum.

Couldn't politically-themed threads be banned?
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Reply #4 posted 09/04/08 8:32pm

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Janfriend said:

Anxiety said:

i wouldn't be heartbroken at all if P&R went the way of the dinosaur.

but then we'd have political-themed threads popping up in general discussion, and the same energy would pop up and infect GD.

so maybe it's better that all of the...shall we say EMPASSIONED DEBATE, lol...remain in its own forum.

Couldn't politically-themed threads be banned?


no.

that would send a message that discussing politics in and of itself is somehow inappropriate within a community, and speaking at least for myself, i would not feel comfortable moderating these forums for "political content". no no no!

but for the sake of argument: even if we tried, we would eventually, sooner than later i'm sure, run into the problem of how one defines a theme as "politically-themed" and we'll have droves of moderator requests demanding we lock M*A*S*H appreciation threads and discussions about U2 lyrics.

no. that's not a viable idea. not at all.
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Reply #5 posted 09/04/08 9:15pm

Janfriend

Anxiety said:

Janfriend said:


Couldn't politically-themed threads be banned?


no.

that would send a message that discussing politics in and of itself is somehow inappropriate within a community, and speaking at least for myself, i would not feel comfortable moderating these forums for "political content". no no no!

but for the sake of argument: even if we tried, we would eventually, sooner than later i'm sure, run into the problem of how one defines a theme as "politically-themed" and we'll have droves of moderator requests demanding we lock M*A*S*H appreciation threads and discussions about U2 lyrics.

no. that's not a viable idea. not at all.

I see, because it would be too broad
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Reply #6 posted 09/04/08 9:15pm

Anxiety

Janfriend said:

Anxiety said:



no.

that would send a message that discussing politics in and of itself is somehow inappropriate within a community, and speaking at least for myself, i would not feel comfortable moderating these forums for "political content". no no no!

but for the sake of argument: even if we tried, we would eventually, sooner than later i'm sure, run into the problem of how one defines a theme as "politically-themed" and we'll have droves of moderator requests demanding we lock M*A*S*H appreciation threads and discussions about U2 lyrics.

no. that's not a viable idea. not at all.

I see, because it would be too broad


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Reply #7 posted 09/05/08 6:04am

SoulAlive

I used to post regularly in the Politics and Religion forum but now I stay FAR AWAY from it lol That place is crazy!! It brings out the worst in some people.
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Reply #8 posted 09/05/08 12:37pm

Janfriend

Anxiety said:

Janfriend said:


I see, because it would be too broad


nod

It honeslty brings no good whatsoever
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Reply #9 posted 09/05/08 7:36pm

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Janfriend said:

Anxiety said:



nod

It honeslty brings no good whatsoever

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No you didn't! I love P&R! If it goes, I go. (watches as mods race to shut it down) lol
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Reply #10 posted 09/06/08 1:53pm

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Janfriend said:

Anxiety said:



nod

It honeslty brings no good whatsoever


no good at all? discussing important topics that affect your daily life is futile?

you may not like everything that's being said, but that doesn't mean it's not important.
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Reply #11 posted 09/06/08 5:04pm

Janfriend

IrresistibleB1tch said:

Janfriend said:


It honeslty brings no good whatsoever


no good at all? discussing important topics that affect your daily life is futile?

you may not like everything that's being said, but that doesn't mean it's not important.

I think those topics should be discussed among people who truly know each other well and can respect their differences in opinion
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Reply #12 posted 09/06/08 6:06pm

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Janfriend said:

IrresistibleB1tch said:



no good at all? discussing important topics that affect your daily life is futile?

you may not like everything that's being said, but that doesn't mean it's not important.

I think those topics should be discussed among people who truly know each other well and can respect their differences in opinion


well, they can be. and it's perfectly alright to discuss them with folks in an online forum. if there is disrespect, that reflects on the people participating, just as it would in a r/l situation.
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Reply #13 posted 09/07/08 6:22am

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I remember the days before P&R and GD was filled with threads about stuff like spirituality and world affairs. So full in fact, you could hardly find the important threads about pants and sex stuff.

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Reply #14 posted 09/07/08 7:49am

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mcmeekle said:

I remember the days before P&R and GD was filled with threads about stuff like spirituality and world affairs. So full in fact, you could hardly find the important threads about pants and sex stuff.

shake


lol
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Reply #15 posted 09/07/08 12:56pm

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Janfriend said:

With the numerous issues in the past regarding moderation, the vile attitudes of some, and the name calling, why is this forum still in existence on a musician fansite? No good comes from it. All people do is fight in that place. Certain people get away with cruelty because they've conned moderators. Why can't it be removed like the love and relationships forum?



You could say the same of many forums on this site. Do you really want to be left with Fan Gatherings and 3121 discussion?

I see nothing valid about wanting to stifle other's speech just because you're uncomfortable with it.

There are those that are impervious to moderation, but that is a moderation issue, not a forum issue.
Studies have shown the ass crack of the average Prince fan to be abnormally large. This explains the ease and frequency of their panties bunching up in it.
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Reply #16 posted 09/08/08 9:37am

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Janfriend said:

With the numerous issues in the past regarding moderation, the vile attitudes of some, and the name calling, why is this forum still in existence on a musician fansite? No good comes from it. All people do is fight in that place. Certain people get away with cruelty because they've conned moderators. Why can't it be removed like the love and relationships forum?



You could say the same of many forums on this site. Do you really want to be left with Fan Gatherings and 3121 discussion?

I see nothing valid about wanting to stifle other's speech just because you're uncomfortable with it.

There are those that are impervious to moderation, but that is a moderation issue, not a forum issue.


agree. simple solution? don't go in the P & R forum if you think it sucks
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Reply #17 posted 09/08/08 9:40am

Mach

P&R is my fave forum on this sight -

like everything in life you take the good with the bad

or just don't open the door

peace!
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Reply #18 posted 09/11/08 1:53am

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Yes, why can't we just remove and ban everything, so that it will be all nice & quiet?
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As for the 'fights' - I think these can be safely called 'arguments' - like in arguing/discussing a case or opinion.
For my part, I'd rather have a few fights in the midst of a debate than a mass of passive amen/yes-saying souls.
Often from a fight, I learn something.







Janfriend said:

With the numerous issues in the past regarding moderation, the vile attitudes of some, and the name calling, why is this forum still in existence on a musician fansite? No good comes from it. All people do is fight in that place. Certain people get away with cruelty because they've conned moderators. Why can't it be removed like the love and relationships forum?
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Reply #19 posted 09/11/08 7:03am

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Anxiety said:

i wouldn't be heartbroken at all if P&R went the way of the dinosaur.

but then we'd have political-themed threads popping up in general discussion, and the same energy would pop up and infect GD.

so maybe it's better that all of the...shall we say EMPASSIONED DEBATE, lol...remain in its own forum.


That already has happened.
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Reply #20 posted 09/11/08 4:42pm

Teacher

It took me a long time to get it but face it: If you don't like it, don't go there. Easy! biggrin I'd love to go discuss shit there with the american elections coming up but until new mods are appointed and it's properly harnessed I'm not even peeking in the door.
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Reply #21 posted 09/11/08 8:39pm

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Wussies! pussy lol lol
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Reply #22 posted 09/12/08 9:32am

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noimageatall said:

Wussies! pussy lol lol


lol thumbs up!
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Reply #23 posted 09/14/08 11:26pm

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Mach said:

P&R is my fave forum on this sight -

like everything in life you take the good with the bad

or just don't open the door

peace!

Let's hear it for P&R! woot!
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Reply #24 posted 09/15/08 6:49am

Mach

meow85 said:

Mach said:

P&R is my fave forum on this sight -

like everything in life you take the good with the bad

or just don't open the door

peace!

Let's hear it for P&R! woot!



I heart P&R woot!
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Reply #25 posted 09/15/08 3:31pm

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Serious said:

Anxiety said:

i wouldn't be heartbroken at all if P&R went the way of the dinosaur.

but then we'd have political-themed threads popping up in general discussion, and the same energy would pop up and infect GD.

so maybe it's better that all of the...shall we say EMPASSIONED DEBATE, lol...remain in its own forum.


That already has happened.


it's getting there. lol GD will prevail, though. nod

getting rid of p&r would be absolutely ridiculous.
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Reply #26 posted 09/16/08 11:36am

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Wow, lots of folks have serious control issues around here. The whole "if I'm not having any fun with it then nobody should be having fun with it." case. shake
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Reply #27 posted 09/19/08 8:44am

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It took me a long time to get it but face it: If you don't like it, don't go there. Easy! biggrin I'd love to go discuss shit there with the american elections coming up but until new mods are appointed and it's properly harnessed I'm not even peeking in the door.


Why do you feel the need for such protection? If someone insults you, either stick up for yourself or ignore them. Just as you would in "real" life.
[Edited 9/19/08 8:50am]
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Reply #28 posted 09/26/08 3:05pm

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Janfriend said:

With the numerous issues in the past regarding moderation, the vile attitudes of some, and the name calling, why is this forum still in existence on a musician fansite? No good comes from it. All people do is fight in that place. Certain people get away with cruelty because they've conned moderators. Why can't it be removed like the love and relationships forum?



it reminds me of a digital fox news
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