shanti0608 said:

And all the alter accounts when there is a bulletin on front saying alters are not going to be allowed, there are more than ever.

Stymie said:

Sometimes i think there are more alters than real folk

Stymie said:

I find some alters to be annoying but usually if you ignore them they fade away. I have more issue with ppl that have been here a long time and feel the need to be hurtful towards others to boost their own egos or pretend to be something that they are not.

RodeoSchro said:

what? so you are like old man McCain and i'm like the still-wet-behind-the-ears youngster Obama?



I hope you know it is you who looks like a toddler when you say what you say about Rush. Seriously. I don't even know where to begin, it is so preposterous.

HiinEnkelte said:

It isn't. at all.

shanti0608 said:

Yep.

I agree with you all as well. I said earlier today that I wasn't posting on here again but I just had to chime in on this thread. 5 years or more ago you could say things, joke, have an opinion, and even get in a heated debate but people still had respect. They weren't quick to take offense, they didn't try to purposely make you look stupid or try to bait you into some long drawn out arguement. I miss how things were, I miss coming on here and literally laughing my ass off because of a discussion that was going on. And yes, a lot of it I think has to do in how things are read but even still..Seems like most on here now just jumped to the "i'm gonna be a jerk" response instead of keeping it civil. I miss the old days of Org.

paisleywmn said:

That's totally how it is here at the moment .

Serious said:

This is not meant to be personal.

I've been on here for quite a long time and can honestly say that the org, especially P&R, used to be a lot worse than today in terms of people bitching and disrespepecting eachother.

Compared to the "old days" the org is now much more sensitive to people who are offended by somebody/something and much more PC minded.

It's almost like the more sensitive the org becomes the more peoplecomplain that it's not and want to get their way with their desired restrictions on speech.same goes with the complaints on how people talk about prince. The guy used to be trashed with no reservations or moderation on here. These days it's pretty mild.

I think this complaining about how bad P&R is or how much trouble this site is supposedly in because of its users behaviour needs to stop.

I would like to see more mods in P&R.

I think it is pointless to have an ability to report something that you find bait or extremely offensive if it is not going to be looked at for at least 4 days.

That is my major gripe but who am I?

Carry on

shanti0608 said:

As I said on the other thread in ths forum, I believe the root of the problem is a lack of concrete rules other than moderators. This is for the org in general.

I think we should have "Blog Free Wednesdays." On Wednesdays, no one is allowed to post links to blogs, information gleaned from blogs, or refer to blogs in any way.

That should up the level of discourse by about 187%!

2the9s said:

2the9s said:

the blog i use references mainstream media.

shanti0608 said:

I would like to see this too. We're waiting just like you. Ironically, the only two active moderators in P&R (matt and myself) were on vacation at the same time. I checked in from time to time, but Matt couldn't due to lack of internet where he went... so, it was pretty much on it's own until we returned to our computers. And that's not good.

We need back up...

June7 said:

You sure do. I agree with that. I do not mean to sound like I am passing judgment on to the existing mods. I know that I have not right to bitch since I have never "walked in a mods shoes". Though I have no desire to so therefore I have never signed up for the job.
I do not see why it has taken so long to get the ppl on board that expressed interest MANY months ago.
I know that the two of you cannot be there 24/7.
That is unrealistic.

Hopefully something will change with that soon.
Until then, I figure why bother....

June7 said:

P&R has needed ( or seems to from my perspective and experience ! ) additional help for a few yrs now!When matt and I needed help, you came in and helped and even with your help one or 2 more Mods in that forum was/is still needed.

I would say that forum needs at least 4 consistantly active Mods at all times

I have offered a few times to return when the new Mods have been brought on board to help them help us help the org


As it has been stated - all that is out of our hands

The problem with P&R is that it needs to be done away with, period. It brings out the worst in people, and I include myself in that. There are five active trolls there and even though we spend more time there that those who are modding the forum, they do not believe us when we say who these people are. They are ruining the form completely.

Stymie said:

Since when did websites let a couple of trolls ruin it for everybody just because some regular posters can't deal with those trolls? Just because they are there doesn't mean the entire forum is shit or that it needs to be done away with.

Let alone that some people apparantly can't prevent letting such a forum bring out the worst in them.

Tremolina said:

I just want it moderated.

I never visit the P&R forum anymore and I never will again.That place is vicious! I've realized that there are some things that truly cannot be debated,at least not on this site.

Stymie said:

I totally agree! That forum brings out the worst in people.

SoulAlive said:

SoulAlive said:

More like the REAL in them.

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[Edited 9/1/08 21:34pm]

Flowers2 said:

the biggest problem is ben's apparent inability to select new mods from the candidates or delegate the selection to someone who would do it. how many months has it been now? it's getting somewhat ridiculous.

Yes, and the best too imo.

SoulAlive said: