I for one, have grown tired of all the subjective, and biased opinions that dominate this website, and the topics therein. Every time I visit "the org" I am overcome with negative energy, topics that are irrelevent, orgers who bash, lack respect and/or maturity, and a multitude of other elements, that have resulted in my despising of this website. I joined this website, because I had intentions of learning, and discussing subjects/topics about a musical artist, that has been a major impact in my life...Prince. I didn't join this website to hear a whole bunch of disgruntled and discontented "fans" enforce their personal views, and or beliefs. I'm not saying I don't want to hear others opinions, because I do. The problem occurs when people act as if their opinions are FACT, and aren't respectable to others. Many a time have I become discouraged from stating my opinion, simply because of the fact that no one would respect it, or consider it's relevance. It seems unfair, but I've learned to realize that the majority of the people on this website don't care. And never will. I'm not trying to call anyone out, or offend anyone, because this isn't directed towards any one person. This is directed towards an attitude, that I see rather prevalent throughout the various posts, and responses. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of people who are respectable, and considerate to others ideas...but they are constantly being over shadowed by some form of negative energy, biased opinions, and a type of pungent irrelevance. Every time I visit this website, I just get let down, constantly. I'm not asking people to agree with me, they don't have to. This is my personal opinion, and I'm not trying to enforce it upon anyone, I simply want to be heard,as in comprehended, and I want to know if anyone feels the same...antagonism I feel. After all, you don't need to agree with everything Prince says, has said, does, or did, to be a fan. You don't even have to like his music, that's your opinion. But to be a fan, the only thing you really got to do is...understand.

I get irritated by people throwing tantrums about not being able to watch Prince videos on youtube, or "experience" his music. It is HIS music, and his right to do with it, whatever he may please, at the cost of a fan, is of little significance, for the aware fan, would understand, the biased one, one of greed, would whine, and throw fit. Believe me, I would enjoy watching Prince videos on the internet, but if Prince doesn't want his music on youtube, then so be it. I'm not going to abondon him, for something so trivial as that.

I'm not trying to preach, although some people will think that.

Whatever.

Anyone is entitled to feel whatever sentiments they may feel towards mine, and I am endowed equality on that matter, and with that being said...

Thank you, for taking YOUR time to read MY thoughts, I appreciate it, truly. For they are thoughts, and only thoughts, NOT FACTS.

Thank you for sharing AshuraNazume...
I may have a biased love for Prince that will joking respond to unecessary agressive comments...although I accept if someone has an opinion that is less favorable of the music than I.
I have started several threads open for discussing Prince's music and lyrics...and I have also been disappointed with the lack of responses for the amount of people that visit here....

When you go to college and take a class...It is possible to spend an entire hour breaking down a poem, and highlighting several aspects...and I am surprised that some people don't take adavantage of how many subjects and styles Prince has to play with intelligently...It makes me wonder how many Prince fans really feel the man inside the music...
Prince is a beautiful spirit with a fantastic mind...Anyone could write a book about him truthfully...I never will though..

Ashura, could'nt repsect you more. Your are the epitome of what a true fan should be.

Most thanks and regards to Tame, and dyami12, simply for taking their time, to read my thoughts, and post a response.

I appreciate the intel, and the insight.

Ashrua... while I feel the same way you do, it is important to remember, that this is also a place where we can convey our feelings, as you have conveyed yours. I like to read some of the whining also, it makes me appreciate the fact that I don't live near those people It's all about feeeeelllliinnngs, oh wo wo feeeeellllliiings.

..... ...it is what it is.

AshuraNazume said:[quote]But to be a fan, the only thing you really got to do is...understand.
I would enjoy watching Prince videos on the internet, but if Prince doesn't want his music on youtube, then so be it. I'm not going to abondon him, for something so trivial as that.
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Couldn't have said it better.

Was I the only one who laughed when heard of 'Prince Fans United'?

Seriously, WHAT THE FUCK?

It is frustrating to me too. I really enjoy reading threads about things/song/events that I did not know about. I don't have any negativity about Prince or his music either. I don't LOVE every song or video or movie, but there is so much material from him and there is so much that does touch me. But, I choose to just join conversations that I feel comfortable in.

You lived in a country of islands where the people are taught to respect and honor others and are morally educated. There is definitely a difference between here and there,and with that said wouldn't it be wonderful if we could all respect one another. You are a young individual and can grow to teach others around you. ..make a difference.

As for prince.org enjoy what it has to offer and try to ignore the comments that are displeasing to you. You will find the ones that share your thoughts, and make some good friends here. Enjoy your stay.

Thanks to all anteceding, and preceding posts, all thoughts are appreciated. All advice adhered.
[Edited 8/6/08 18:44pm]

Everything Prince does is great and nobody can ever criticize his career or his music...PLEASE!!! it's a free country and we shall be heard!!

I appreciate your honesty and willingness to share your true feelings. Many Orgers have voiced the same concerns.

Over the past year I've seen negative posters come and go. As another Orger suggested above, you might share your feelings about a particular post/thread or simply ignore the ones you believe are designed to inflame.

I'd rather mods spent their time locking stupid threads like these than legit ones like the "if prince was ever convicted of a crime would you still support him".

Welcome to the internet.

Sophianestesia said

Wasn't PFU formed to publicise against Prince/his legal team from shutting this site and other like it down, or removing any mention of the man himself, which is in essence the same thing. I don't think it was formed to protest against his lack of videos. The PFU has my full support, Prince is a celebrity and should expect people to talk about him. Trying to take that away is wrong and goes against everything free speech stands for.
[Edited 8/7/08 2:16am]

Hey Ashura!

I'm not trying to downplay your feelings or anything, but the fact that the org is a place where people can come and bitch about the star the site is dedicated to is exactly what got me interested .

I may not have a lot of bad things to say about Prince, but I like being in a place where anybody can say anything they want... and the fact that some are truly disrespectful and have only time to waste just reminds you that people like them exist lol... well that does matter to me cuz sometimes I really DO forget about them lol.

And not to turn it political, i just wanna say it , coming from a place where people still can't grasp the meaning of 'opinion'... it feels liberating!

Sorry for the overload! I just always have a lot to say .

I appreciate all the advice, and the suggestions to ignore...certain actions. This is something I have done, and am capable of. But, I do like learning from all the different view points, which exist throughout this community. I like to see, why people feel the way they do...if they have a reason, or simply a personal feeling that would lead to their contributions, positive, or negative.

myfavotite says... "it is what it is"
This is true, but I'm not trying to change people, just trying to understand motive.

purplesweat, obviosly enjoys engaging in endeavors of fantasy, rather than participating in intellectual, and unbiased threads. That's okay, your opinion is respected. Just display your arrogance where more people will notice it, next time.

NouveauDance said..."Welcome to the internet."
I say, the internet for negative orgers, such as purplesweat, is symbollic of an electromagnetic facade, that allows the introverted, and cynical to voice thier feelings without rebuttle. Trust me, if I could talk to other Prince fans, I would.

I live in an area where the only artists that dominate are Kieth Urban, Nickleback, and Soulja Boy...there's nothing wrong with that, but, it makes connecting with other Prince fans dificult. Hence my joining of "the org"


Once again, thanks to all for their time.

NouveauDance said:

Yeah.

Fragmentor said:

I do think he had his reasons and I respect him for that.

ok ashura, ...whatever, dayum




somebody get me a tea befor i blw it in here! ! ! ! ...not really

Welcome to a public forum. Your opinion is as valid as people lamenting not being able to watch video's. And, in a way, your thread is as negative as the ones you bemoan.

Good luck.

AshuraNazume said:

Why is that arrogance? Arrogance means 'an attitude of superiority manifested in an overbearing manner or in presumptuous claims or assumptions' according to the Merriam-Webster's Online Dictionary...

It's just different interests here on the org. You say you want to be understood, I understand that. But try also to understand others.

I can say for my part, when I first started writing on the org, I was suprprised by the language which to me often seemed very direct and even rude. But I have learned that this is the internet, a global space for meeting all kinds of people with all kinds of different backgrounds, different realities. What may seem rude from where I come from, isn't necessarily rude where you come from.

My biggest lesson from this is to not take things personally, and engage in topics and relations based on the assumption that people mean well (that is, is seeking the same happines and satisfaction as myself) despite any neagtive or frustrated or stupid or silly comment (I think) they may have.

Peace.

I agree with everything you say !But its bloody annoying that you can only see a prince gig if you can afford to get a ticket!!!

What? and what in this world worth having is FREE?

I didn't get past the first sentence. You need to realize that opinions are, by definition, subjective.

AshuraNazume said:

If there was a standing ovation icon, I would use it for this post. It's one of the best I've read all year. I pretty much feel the same way you do. It's love of Prince and his music that keep me here.

Sophianestesia said:[quote]AshuraNazume said:[quote]But to be a fan, the only thing you really got to do is...understand.
I would enjoy watching Prince videos on the internet, but if Prince doesn't want his music on youtube, then so be it. I'm not going to abondon him, for something so trivial as that.

I shook my head at it cause I knew that was a big fat lie through and through.

Why the hell is this over at site discussion? It should have stayed over at P:M&M.

To my dismay, it was transported to the "site discussion" forum. I don't think the orgers predominantly visiting the "Prince: music and more" forum, would contemplate it, as much as the orgers on this forum have.