SquirrelMeat said:

Thanks for the update. Sounds like you've put alot of hard work in. Hopefully it will pay off for us all in one way or another.

FlamingRaindrop said:

Prince has ALWAYS been a big-headed egotistical maniac. How come it's taken you so long to notice?

Thanks to PFU for their hard work and for the update. At least the legal threats have been suspended for the moment, even if the prospects for a long-term agreement don't look good.

tinamouse said:[quote]I mean the silly prices (much to high) for his concerts partly in London in Cork are only a sign of greed of money. What the hell, does Prince, his management, Paisley Park or whoever thinks. We fans are normal people and not the rich Ones of LA. I can´t understand, why so much fans pay this [quote]

What is your point, exactly? For both the London and Dublin gigs, there were lots of reasonably priced tickets and a few expensive ones. You don't HAVE to buy the expensive ones...

I think it is a bit tacky to use Sam's words first of all. Second, however it may sound like he was talking about Prince, there is no proof he was. Third, it is a misrepresentation that this has shown up on multiple websites. There is only the one blog and however many people have taken those words and posted them somewhere else does not erase the fact they have only been used ONCE. When you use other people's words, ya really should quote them, too.

Thanks for the update.

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[Edited 3/14/08 7:23am]

Stymie said:

I hear what you're are saying; I guess my question would be whether Sam contacted HQ, PFU, etc. to tell them not to use his words? Or definitively say he was not alluding to Prince with that blog entry? Seems like that would be the simplest way to clear up any 'misrepresentations' or misunderstandings that may or may not exist.

DevotedPuppy said:

And I hear what you're saying. It just seems to me that if Sam were contacted, HQ would have quoted his words directly using his name.

Stymie said:

I understand how we could all assume Sam was talking about Prince but since he did not come out and say it was Prince, you're right, I would not have used it as part of an official update for PFU.

What is funny is that Sam writes another blog about keeping secrets and integrity, yet folks seem to be running away with assumptions about a private conversation Sam had with his "friend". I don't know why but I think that's funny.

I'm pretty much done with this guy. I'll stay here because I've grown fond of a lot of people on this site, but Prince himself can bite the big one in my book. I seriously think he needs some kind of long term therapy.

wonder505 said:

I see no reason for an "official" update at all. Nothing has changed, there is no actual news in what's posted up there, rumor maybe but not news. HQ has done some stuff that was not cool in the past and it slays me how the victim thing keeps getting played.

As far as Sam's blog, it must suck to have people think when you mention someone it's "him".

wonder505 said:

i think sam's blog is perfectly tactful and respectful, and for all intents and purposes it's absolutely possible that he's NOT talking about prince, though it's very easy for us to assume he is. the fact is, it's up to the person writing the blog to divulge that information, and sam has chosen not to identify the "friend" in question, and that should be respected. not to mention, we all know what happens when one ASSUMES...

wonder505 said:

Just to play Devil's advocate:

1. if it was such a private conversation, then why post it on a blog, which is by nature, very public?

2. Sam had to have known or thought that people would assume it was about Prince, so if he didn't want that assumption he could have either made that clear in the blog entry or not posted it, period.

i love how this thread started out as a PFU announcement by gav and has turned into a discussion of sam's blog.

Stymie said:

A lot of people at HQ kept asking for an update. I guess the main 'news' in the update is that there is no news because NPG Records is procrastinating about responding to ideas for fan websites and Prince to get along (for lack of a better word).

Anxiety said:

Sorry.

DevotedPuppy said:

i wonder if ben and the sitemaster at princefams were consulted before this update was posted, or did gav take the liberty of speaking for everyone involved in PFU?

Stymie said:

oh no, i'm not critical of the discussion, i just thiink it's ironic!

DevotedPuppy said:

You make a good point. I'm sure Sam would have known people would be guessing it was Prince maybe he was still under a confidentiality agreement at the time this conversation took place---that's if this friend is Prince).

But then why write a blog about secrets and integrity? He made a conversation public and now PFU and everyone is all over it. That's why I am a little uncomfortable with PFU including it as part of their official statement. They could have done without it.


Just a few thoughts that come to mind.
[Edited 3/14/08 8:06am]

wonder505 said:

of course, this is still assuming that the "friend" in question is prince. it's an easy assumption to make, eased along by gav's quoting of sam's blog, but still and all...it's an assumption. for all we know, the "friend" could be an associate of prince's or a fan who happens to share prince's allegedly low opinion of the internet. that's the point: WE don't know, and as far as sam is concerned, it's likely none of our business. the "who" isn't the point. the point was the discussion, and sam's argument for the usefulness of the internet. i don't think sam was trying to get all "wink wink nudge nudge" perez hilton with his blog by posting "is it prince or isn't it?" games. i think the point of the blog was the context, which was to discuss the usefulness of the internet, and unfortunately because of sam's linkage to prince, we all immediately jump to conclusions, whether it's safe to do so or not. why not just take the blog for what it is, instead of making a big to-do about it?

wonder505 said:

Anxiety said:

i agree totally. the content of a blog makes for a great discussion for a whole other topic. However, PFU incorporated that blog into their offical statement which is why it is coming up now.
[Edited 3/14/08 8:22am]

Anxiety said:

on a side note Anx, doesn't this anouncment warrant a place on the latest news bit of the home page?

jami0mckay said:

Although it is not news, it is already on the front page.

Stymie said:

it's not on the front page. we're waiting for ben to decide what to do with gav's post, since it's more of a PFU item than a prince-related item per se, and that's more ben's realm than it is us mods'.

Anxiety said:

ahh I see thanks
now I can go back to the thread I mistakenly posted in P&R about a bear stealing honey...

Anxiety said:

Well, it was on the home page. That's how I knew Gav had started a thread.

Stymie said:

SUUURE it was, stymie....SUUUURE it was.


just kidding

it was on the front page for a bit. after ben checks it out, it may well be again.

Anxiety said:

God, no. Please.

appreciate the update. use of an "alleged comment" was lame though.