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Reply #30 posted 03/07/08 4:07am

coolcat

TheMightyCelestial said:

Heiress said:



It gets hostile in there, and I don't like fighting with people.


That's usually the case whenever discussing politics & religion, especially on an online forum.

That's why that one saying originated, "When it comes to discussing, politics & religion, you can never win".



Not even when it comes to the subject of Alpacas. pout
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Reply #31 posted 03/07/08 4:14am

mcmeekle

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coolcat said:

2the9s said:



I think articles and texts of various kinds should provide a basis for discussion and I see why people do it, but when they are just plopped down there and the Orger absconds, nothing is contributed.



hmmm I disagree. Sometimes good information is posted... there's really no need to discuss the topic.

I think the problem in P & R is that sometimes there's a little too much "discussing".
[Edited 3/7/08 1:09am]

I wholeheartedly disagree with you. It's a discussion forum first and foremost. It's all about discussion (or should be).

Even if you disagree with that, if you only copy-and-paste an article into a thread with nothing to discuss it'll sink to page 2 obscurity in no time. If you want to get your info seen by maximum people (and I assume that you would), you'll need to add some bouyancy to your thread, ie a point to discuss. Otherwise, all you'll get at best is a series of nods and thumbsups.

Trust me, I'm an expert in thread oblivion! wink
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Reply #32 posted 03/07/08 4:28am

coolcat

mcmeekle said:

coolcat said:



hmmm I disagree. Sometimes good information is posted... there's really no need to discuss the topic.

I think the problem in P & R is that sometimes there's a little too much "discussing".
[Edited 3/7/08 1:09am]

I wholeheartedly disagree with you. It's a discussion forum first and foremost. It's all about discussion (or should be).

Even if you disagree with that, if you only copy-and-paste an article into a thread with nothing to discuss it'll sink to page 2 obscurity in no time. If you want to get your info seen by maximum people (and I assume that you would), you'll need to add some bouyancy to your thread, ie a point to discuss. Otherwise, all you'll get at best is a series of nods and thumbsups.

Trust me, I'm an expert in thread oblivion! wink


Well... I just think that unpopular threads are the smallest of P & R's problems. Mods don't need to worry about that. I mean, if a thread doesn't warrant discussion, it gets ignored. Where's the harm?

The problems are really in the most popular threads... most likely that's where the flaming is being done.
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Reply #33 posted 03/07/08 7:46am

Rhondab

coolcat said:

mcmeekle said:


I wholeheartedly disagree with you. It's a discussion forum first and foremost. It's all about discussion (or should be).

Even if you disagree with that, if you only copy-and-paste an article into a thread with nothing to discuss it'll sink to page 2 obscurity in no time. If you want to get your info seen by maximum people (and I assume that you would), you'll need to add some bouyancy to your thread, ie a point to discuss. Otherwise, all you'll get at best is a series of nods and thumbsups.

Trust me, I'm an expert in thread oblivion! wink


Well... I just think that unpopular threads are the smallest of P & R's problems. Mods don't need to worry about that. I mean, if a thread doesn't warrant discussion, it gets ignored. Where's the harm?

The problems are really in the most popular threads... most likely that's where the flaming is being done.


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Reply #34 posted 03/07/08 8:47am

mcmeekle

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Where's the harm?

There's zero harm. I just don't understand the copy-and-paste-and-that's-it threads. shrug

We have to be careful we don't throw the baby out with the bathwater though and stifle discussion too much.
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Reply #35 posted 03/07/08 8:48am

ehuffnsd

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coolcat said:

mcmeekle said:


I wholeheartedly disagree with you. It's a discussion forum first and foremost. It's all about discussion (or should be).

Even if you disagree with that, if you only copy-and-paste an article into a thread with nothing to discuss it'll sink to page 2 obscurity in no time. If you want to get your info seen by maximum people (and I assume that you would), you'll need to add some bouyancy to your thread, ie a point to discuss. Otherwise, all you'll get at best is a series of nods and thumbsups.

Trust me, I'm an expert in thread oblivion! wink


Well... I just think that unpopular threads are the smallest of P & R's problems. Mods don't need to worry about that. I mean, if a thread doesn't warrant discussion, it gets ignored. Where's the harm?

The problems are really in the most popular threads... most likely that's where the flaming is being done.


i've noticed the past week or so the flaming has gone down. hopefully eveyone will come back in a month or so and good discussion will begin again.
You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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Reply #36 posted 03/07/08 9:00am

Mach

2the9s said:



I'm not talking about the threads that Mach makes, btw. I think she often creates threads in order to introduce a variety of different topics and viewpoints into the mix. I think she is trying to address some of the problems that we see there.

Yes - I try


TY rose
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Reply #37 posted 03/07/08 9:12am

Mach

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1. Alot of orgers are afraid to go in there.


I probably get 4 - 12 orgnotes a week about peoples fears

I am trying more to focus on the personal insults/attacks orgers post towards fellow orgers
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Reply #38 posted 03/07/08 9:16am

Mach

Mars23 said:



4. I know more moderation is on the way, a reboot would allow for a team effort of moderators to keep the tone civil and try to avoid some of the dustups of the past.


I love the forum and want it to be live and vibrant. What do you think?


A working team of Mods together thumbs up! I don't think we need a total reboot to do this

I love this forum too ! My # 1 forum on this site nod Thankgoodness cuz love makes ya stick round through the icky stuff most times

rose
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Reply #39 posted 03/07/08 9:38am

mcmeekle

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Mach said:

I am trying more to focus on the personal insults/attacks orgers post towards fellow orgers

It's little sly references and asides, quite often in other threads, that add to the tension too. They're all over the place.

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Reply #40 posted 03/07/08 9:59am

Mach

mcmeekle said:

Mach said:

I am trying more to focus on the personal insults/attacks orgers post towards fellow orgers

It's little sly references and asides, quite often in other threads, that add to the tension too. They're all over the place.

sad


Yes they are
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Reply #41 posted 03/07/08 10:36am

Rhondab

Mach said:

Mars23 said:



1. Alot of orgers are afraid to go in there.


I probably get 4 - 12 orgnotes a week about peoples fears

I am trying more to focus on the personal insults/attacks orgers post towards fellow orgers



what are the "FEARS"?

Just interested.
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Reply #42 posted 03/07/08 10:47am

mcmeekle

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Rhondab said:

Mach said:



I probably get 4 - 12 orgnotes a week about peoples fears

I am trying more to focus on the personal insults/attacks orgers post towards fellow orgers



what are the "FEARS"?

Just interested.

I'll admit orgnoting Mach about my fears in P&R. See reply #29.

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Reply #43 posted 03/07/08 10:51am

Rhondab

mcmeekle said:

Rhondab said:




what are the "FEARS"?

Just interested.

I'll admit orgnoting Mach about my fears in P&R. See reply #29.

boxed



That response doesn't say anything to me...

shrug


I'm like Mach, p&r has been my fav forum.
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Reply #44 posted 03/07/08 10:55am

mcmeekle

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Rhondab said:

mcmeekle said:


I'll admit orgnoting Mach about my fears in P&R. See reply #29.

boxed



That response doesn't say anything to me...

shrug


I'm like Mach, p&r has been my fav forum.

I was continuing my Wizard of Oz joke. I use the term `joke` loosely.

confused
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Reply #45 posted 03/07/08 11:10am

Rhondab

mcmeekle said:

Rhondab said:




That response doesn't say anything to me...

shrug


I'm like Mach, p&r has been my fav forum.

I was continuing my Wizard of Oz joke. I use the term `joke` loosely.

confused


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Reply #46 posted 03/07/08 11:19am

Mach

Rhondab said:

Mach said:



I probably get 4 - 12 orgnotes a week about peoples fears

I am trying more to focus on the personal insults/attacks orgers post towards fellow orgers



what are the "FEARS"?

Just interested.


personal attacks on them ( not their opinion on the topic but on personal levels) insults that also derail topics and turn a great thread into a flame fest - some users take this route and some don't
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Reply #47 posted 03/07/08 1:03pm

2the9s

btw, one thing I like about this discussion is that it is a tacit acknowledgment that the P&R forum is a vibrant and serious place (or close to being one. I actually agree with Rhonda's comments about race discussions, very frustrating, but that's another matter...). The site owner here even mentioned it in one of his blogs or one of those interviews he did after the PFU fiasco to show that this site is an active and varied community.

For many years P&R has been seen as a way to drain off controversial topics from GD (which is weird because GD was started to drain off the off-topic discussion from the P:M&M forum but anyway. rolleyes ), but it's more and more come into it's own and I think it's worth continuing this kind of discussion in order to make it even better.

I like that people are taking it seriously.

As for the race thing, maybe we should have the next book discussion be on a work that discusses race in America.

I don't have any suggestions.
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Reply #48 posted 03/07/08 1:06pm

sosgemini

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2the9s said:

btw, one thing I like about this discussion is that it is a tacit acknowledgment that the P&R forum is a vibrant and serious place (or close to being one. I actually agree with Rhonda's comments about race discussions, very frustrating, but that's another matter...). The site owner here even mentioned it in one of his blogs or one of those interviews he did after the PFU fiasco to show that this site is an active and varied community.

For many years P&R has been seen as a way to drain off controversial topics from GD (which is weird because GD was started to drain off the off-topic discussion from the P:M&M forum but anyway. rolleyes ), but it's more and more come into it's own and I think it's worth continuing this kind of discussion in order to make it even better.

I like that people are taking it seriously.

As for the race thing, maybe we should have the next book discussion be on a work that discusses race in America.

I don't have any suggestions.


what the hell is org 6?
Space for sale...
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Reply #49 posted 03/07/08 1:07pm

2the9s

sosgemini said:

2the9s said:

btw, one thing I like about this discussion is that it is a tacit acknowledgment that the P&R forum is a vibrant and serious place (or close to being one. I actually agree with Rhonda's comments about race discussions, very frustrating, but that's another matter...). The site owner here even mentioned it in one of his blogs or one of those interviews he did after the PFU fiasco to show that this site is an active and varied community.

For many years P&R has been seen as a way to drain off controversial topics from GD (which is weird because GD was started to drain off the off-topic discussion from the P:M&M forum but anyway. rolleyes ), but it's more and more come into it's own and I think it's worth continuing this kind of discussion in order to make it even better.

I like that people are taking it seriously.

As for the race thing, maybe we should have the next book discussion be on a work that discusses race in America.

I don't have any suggestions.


what the hell is org 6?


It's like Vanity Six, only with moobs.

smile
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Reply #50 posted 03/08/08 6:58am

TheMightyCeles
tial

2the9s said:

sosgemini said:



what the hell is org 6?


It's like Vanity Six, only with moobs.

smile

I've got a pair of those.
Mine are exceptionally large, fleshy & hairy.

And ladies,
I know how to use 'em....
batting eyes
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