I'd like to know if it's there an offense list or a system of infraction. What counts to ban one orger?

Snips count?
Posting illegal material count?
When banning an orger, is it solely a decision of a moderator, or a "consuel" decision?

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sosgemini said:

i think he wants to know if there is a way for the everyday orger to see see if they have any strikes or whatever they are called.

oh..nevermind.

i guess you can ask a mod you are comfortable with for a review of your strikes...

are there arbitruary count rules? nope..

do we counsel each other? sometimes.

does snips or posting illegal content count? if your a repeat offender, yup.

I'd be interested to know this too. I got in a few scrapes back in the day and I'm wondering if they're on my record somewhere. I'm such a good boy now, so I'd like to think the slate would be wiped clean after a few years.

Also, can mods get strikes? Has a mod ever received a warning or had a post snipped by another mod? That'd be too funny!

Cool, thanks ... I think?



Ok, I know where I stand now, but I'm still a little confused. Chat boots and a 48 hour ban, I get, but we're supposed to receive orgnotes when we get a strike? Not that I want to receive any as I intend not to get in any trouble, but I can't remember ever receiving an orgnote about a deleted thread or a warning of any kind on this particular account. It has been 3 years, admittedly, and my memory might be hazy, but honestly I certainly can't recall getting 3 warning e-mails in that time. Is it possible we're getting strikes without receiving warnings? I think as long as we know when we've broken a site rule then everything's clear.

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[Edited 2/16/08 22:43pm]

Fauxie said:

You're welcome

luv4u said:

Have you ever had to snip another mod?

Fauxie said:

Actually, no.

But I've had to lock a thread when a duplicate was made

luv4u said:

Mod on mod action

sosgemini said:

And that's why moderating on this site is so haphazard and, well, in my opinion, shoddy. This should not happen - no wonder people like are so taken aback when they are banned.

benyamin said:

Ok, so that answers one question. There's no set number of strikes that mean an automatic ban, correct? If I'm sitting on 3 it makes me wonder.

IMO, there should be an orgnote sent every time something is added to a user's history of offenses that can count against them for a ban, not just strikes, but anything that would influence moderation- snips, etc. it doesn't seem that difficult, and would surely help clear things up.
[Edited 2/17/08 7:27am]

Fauxie said:

evenstar said:

Exactly. I just want to be aware when I've transgressed. I didn't know I had 3 strikes.

Fauxie said:

i can remember getting one actual warning from bickering in p&r, but i know i've been snipped more often that that. it's just needlessly confusing.

Fauxie said:

Exactly. I had no idea it was coming. I went to P&R when I was banned as I had been debating religion to see if I'd overstepped the mark.

I was banned for an in-joke with Laurel about raping a friend in GD. Off-key, yes. Warning? no.

benyamin said:

We all get a bit rapey from time to time.

Fauxie said:

benyamin said:

Besides, in a round about way it's her fault you were banned so if she didn't deserve it before...

Fauxie said:

I'm too afraid to answer that.

benyamin said:

That's cool. Actions speak louder than words anyway.

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[Edited 2/17/08 8:09am]

Fauxie said:

Everytime I make a note on an org account for mod action the user is orgnoted. There is even an orgnote function IN our moderation tool to automatically send an orgnote as we're taking the action. The "form" orgnotes many people get when there is mod action taken are considered warnings. The verbiage "failure to comply in future posts may result in your account privileges being revoked" is included in these form orgnotes.


There are times I have snipped posts without even making a mod note, though, if it's something "minor". Those don't go on anyone's record.

I think what you're asking, is some kind of formal, "If we have one more rule broken, your account will be banned" orgnote warning... Am I understanding correctly?

CarrieMpls said:

Exactly. Yes please.

CarrieMpls said:

That would be helpful, I think, and definitely receiving orgnote warnings when something is put on your record, 'cause I feel sure I haven't received one every time simply because I don't remember 3 transgressions (which I apparently have) and receiving 3 orgnotes about them. Not on this account anyways.

Ok, about snips - if they count as strikes if you're a repeat offender, shouldn't the mods HAVE TO warn you about it? Like I said before it's absolutely ridiculous to have to watch every damn topic you posted on to see if you were snipped, of course you'd have an inkling but there's also a possibility that a person posts something that's REALLY not intended as an insult to any one person in particular, a second person sees it and gets paranoid thinking it's aimed at them and reports it to a mod who agrees with them and snips the post. The first person is a repeat offender and thus gets a warning or even banned but never got a chance to explain but they're stuck with that warning but weren't told about it. It happens more than you might think, I've been on the paranoid end of a post or two but refrained from reporting it cos I wasn't 100% sure it WAS aimed at me. IMO, if a mod records ANYTHING about a user said user whould be told about it.
I thank Carrie very very much for answering a number of questions and clearing the warning process up, I'd just like to see one change/addition: That it be IMPOSSIBLE for a mod to enter a strike/note without also sending the user an orgnote. That would effectively (I think ) kill every possibility for a mod to forget to warn or maliciously enter notes/strikes against a user.
Also thanks to the mods for letting this topic stay open and thanks to regular posters for keeping this civil, so far.

Well? Anybody?

Teacher said:

Snips are not counted against you nor are they recorded in any moderating format unless a moderator makes a note of it him/herself. For example: If Joe Blow says something crude that requires a snip, we'll snip it and leave it at that. But, if it's an angry attack against someone, then most likely he'll be snipped and a strike will be added to his account. When a strike is added (for me anyway) a orgnote is sent to the offender. On some actions that are taken against someone's account, the "system" won't allow the action to be taken unless we include a note to another moderator or an orgnote to the offender.

When we record a "notation" on an orger's account, it's primarily for our records only. Example: "Joe Blow called Josie Blow a bitch, strike issued" or "this is another account for Joe Blow, who is permabanned", etc. It's not something we are going to share with that particular orger. But, in regards to a strike against their account for flaming someone, or posting an illegal video, or something to that effect, then yes, they'll get a warning that such action is taking place.

Hope that helps.

June7 said:

Thank you, that helps a lot. I was just confused cos of Sos said earlier in this thread about snips counting, he didn't explain that the same rules about notifying a user of a strike against them apply. Thank you.