Is it just me or is it getting extremely hateful and hard to have discussions over there? the past 4-6 just keep getting worse

is there a way to handle it or should i just stop going over there

I stopped going over there, they take it all too seriously. Reminds me of me, years ago.

till Prince broke my bubble...

maybe i should return.

PaisleyPark5083 said:

OOOppps!! I read that wrong, I thought this thread was about Prince music and more...forgive me, carry on

Sometimes,you just have to take a break from that forum.It'll drive you crazy if you go there everyday Religion and politics aren't easy topics to discuss.

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Mach said:

and, i have NO idea how i'd handle things right now if i were a mod.

maybe, start pulling the plug on individual posts and threads. dunno

it sucks lately that's for sure.

I'd start a Misquote-An-Orger thread. Think how much fun that could be.

mcmeekle said:

well that should help a lot

It all seems so unbelievably petty to me. I just found out that my dad has advanced prostate cancer, and reading some of that shit makes me sick to my stomach.

I'm not gonna name any names, but there is a problem in P&R, and everyone who has half a fucking brain oughta know what or who that is.

gemini13 said:

I am sorry to hear about your dad .

Serious said:

Thank you. I am heartbroken.

gemini13 said:

I wish you and him strength .

gemini13 said:

Sorry to hear about your father. God bless you and your family.

To the second part of your post though gemini, this is a part of the issue. No one takes responsibility for their own participation in p&r. Just how you worded that adds to the drama. If its petty, then why add say that, yanno?

I know I've apologized to Mach for my part. Its not just one person but a few. There's enough to go all around. Each person who posts just needs to be accountable to how they font and how they respond to things they don't like including myself.

Its hateful over there because its gotten personal. There's always been heated discussions but its definitely has gotten VERY personal.

gemini13 said:

If you want to talk or vent - please feel free ( orgnote ) My husband and I are prostate cancer survivors

Rhondab said:

Too personal for me. I needed to say that it's petty, because it is. Sorry but there is a common denominator in there lately, and don't think I didn't see your org crush list, so

Thank you for the first part though.

There are more than a few people stoking the fires in P&R. It's a shame: it used to be my favorite place to visit here. The problem is, no one sees their part in the bullshit. So, realizing that I sometimes didn't have anything nice to say, I mostly don't say anything. People are too busy trying to prove they are right to see that they are part of the problem.

gemini13 said:

oh brother......so Mutha is the common denominator and I'm just saying what i'm saying because he's on my crush list. Gemini, really...Mutha gets on my nerves and he knows it. I've said it publicly and privately. It was very passive aggressive AND PETTY of you to go there.

Once again the pettiness goes ALL the way around...easily. You've been a part of it. I've been a part of it.



And thanks Stymie for saying there are more than a few people that take part in the mess in P&R. I don't understand why folks ONLY want to point fingers and not just take a look how THEY have participated. Its never going to stop if we all don't just look at how we've personally contributed.

The finger pointing really needs to end.

Stymie said:

Nobody sees they are part of the problem . I went there and posted on a race thread and although I would have preferred to just leave it again right away I didn't as it may have come across as if I weren't interested any longer and just starting shit. And in fact I provoced others to post things that only added to causing more problems without even realizing it . So I don't see me post there again soon. I have learned my lesson, some people there are wonderful humans, but when they start discussing on certain threads they just turn from lambs to wolves .

Serious said:

awwwww serious...I'm one of the wolves. I do know it.

I love the debate and the fire but the personal stuff....

Rhondab said:

I can say that I haven't bothered to participate since Mutha started that thread about "getting along". I see that he's not interested in the slightest in getting along. Sorry that you can't see what I see. He needs to stop with the bullshit kindergarten antics. Or be banned.

gemini13 said:

Ok, this is EXACTLY what I'm saying. You didn't read my point but you assumed what I was going to say. I said that Mutha gets on my nerves at times BUT others do the same thing as well. If Mutha deserves to be banned, so do others.

Can't be one-sided gemini and that's what you're doing.

We sometimes see what we want to see. That's very clear.

Rhondab said:

I'm really fucking done talking to you about this Rhonda. He is offensive on so many levels, I'm just sick of it. He went back on his "word" and I can't abide. The man needs to be banned if he can't be an adult.

I will leave this discussion. Its about to turn into finger pointing and people not taking a look at themselves.


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gemini13 said:

It's funny you singled me out for not wanting to get along yet in that VERY SAME THREAD I CREATED you had NOTHING to say about mdiver who made his presence felt by NOT wanting a truce. Where were your comments to him? Why didn't you say anything then? You don't have a problem with him trying to ruin that thread with his beef with me but you then want to try and single me out just because other people that didn't want to honor my proposed truce decided to KEEP talking shit towards me and others? Explain that?

THEN explain the baiters that kept coming into our threads where everything was cool and then they'd excplain "Well, we were told we can't respond unless we were Black" - and this was said AFTER the proposed truth. So again, YOU tell me why should I honor those that never had any intentions of honoring ME?

I was cool for a long time with the baiters and even reported the baiters yet nothing was done, the only action I saw was a locked thread, a snip, or a thread removal, neither of which stopped the baiters. So what that did was give them carte blanche to keep baiting, mainly at Gray and I, since we're the most outspoken. So, where were you when the baiting started and kept going? Nowhere.

See, I can see if you had tried to step in to stop some of the bickering, but when you take the sidelines and don't do shit and THEN decide to speak up after it's gotten bad - Then I can't respect your actions. At all.

Again, check the Olive Branch thread and you will SEE for yourself who wasn't down with it and who decided to KEEP the beefs going.

Here, I'll help it out:

http://prince.org/msg/105/257750

Now, you will see the one person that set the negative tone to continue. he knows his influence over his buddies, in fact, he could have just ignored the thread altogether but he felt his negative vibe NEEDED to be heard and felt, so he made sure that happened.

So, Gem, if you wanted to do your part about all this, there was your chance but instead you fell quiet and ignored his post and now here you are trying to do something NOW after the fact. Sorry, but you gets no love for that from me, and I honestly thought you and I were cool after we made peace, but I guess that went out the door with the Olive Branch thread, huh?

Rhondab said:

You seem to be one of the people who try to listen to everybody even if you don't agree. The ones I was talking about totally refuse to listen to certain others as in their opinion they have proven to be racist/uninformed/just interested in starting shit or whatever. So you are right it's a lot about personal stuff and both sides just see the other one as the only one responsible .