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Reply #90 posted 02/04/08 8:16am

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Mach said:

Just thoughts ...

The P&R forum is about debate ... it's part of debating to "bait" to troll around and throw out bait and then even ride the line of "flames" in the process of debating something one feels passionate about



cha know, i've seen others mention the word "debate" in regards to p&r and i have to say when i mod'd p&r i never looked at it as a stomping ground for debating...to me, p&r is a place to discuss sensitive subjects that the rest of the website doesnt want to be bothered with. i never tolerated bait nor would i let someone even think they could come close to flaming others...the minute i saw people edge up to that line i would issue a public warning (and in some cases a private one).

and i never tolerated combative debating.
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Reply #91 posted 02/04/08 10:16am

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Rhondab said:

MuthaFunka said:



It's tiresome and something needs to be done about it.



Now I'm sure nothing will be done. Just locking a thread does nothing.

That was a clear case of baiting.

I'm so close to just leaving.


I completely agree and feel you on that one.
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Reply #92 posted 02/04/08 11:10am

Mach

sosgemini said:

Mach said:

Just thoughts ...

The P&R forum is about debate ... it's part of debating to "bait" to troll around and throw out bait and then even ride the line of "flames" in the process of debating something one feels passionate about



cha know, i've seen others mention the word "debate" in regards to p&r and i have to say when i mod'd p&r i never looked at it as a stomping ground for debating...to me, p&r is a place to discuss sensitive subjects that the rest of the website doesnt want to be bothered with. i never tolerated bait nor would i let someone even think they could come close to flaming others...the minute i saw people edge up to that line i would issue a public warning (and in some cases a private one).

and i never tolerated combative debating.


Then you would be a welcome addition back there SOS - in mosts opinion

at the top of the P&R forum page it states this ...

"Forums > Politics & Religion

Flex your debating skills on more serious topics such as..."


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Reply #93 posted 02/04/08 11:21am

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Mach said:

sosgemini said:



cha know, i've seen others mention the word "debate" in regards to p&r and i have to say when i mod'd p&r i never looked at it as a stomping ground for debating...to me, p&r is a place to discuss sensitive subjects that the rest of the website doesnt want to be bothered with. i never tolerated bait nor would i let someone even think they could come close to flaming others...the minute i saw people edge up to that line i would issue a public warning (and in some cases a private one).

and i never tolerated combative debating.


Then you would be a welcome addition back there SOS - in mosts opinion

at the top of the P&R forum page it states this ...

"Forums > Politics & Religion

Flex your debating skills on more serious topics such as..."


shrug


yeah, that was added by ben when the forum was created but i never adhered to it...folks don't use online websites to debate, they use them as soapboxes...conducting yourself with a respectful tone is a requirement or all hell breaks loose.
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Reply #94 posted 02/04/08 11:29am

Mach

sosgemini said:

Mach said:



Then you would be a welcome addition back there SOS - in mosts opinion

at the top of the P&R forum page it states this ...

"Forums > Politics & Religion

Flex your debating skills on more serious topics such as..."


shrug


yeah, that was added by ben when the forum was created but i never adhered to it...folks don't use online websites to debate, they use them as soapboxes...conducting yourself with a respectful tone is a requirement or all hell breaks loose.


Looks like the dam is leaking and the flood gates are breaking

all hell is about to be loose


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Reply #95 posted 02/05/08 5:16am

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There is an over all problem and it ian't just in P&R.
People are throwing out rumors as facts and personally attacking people in public on the boards when there is no basis for the attacks.

If you have a problem with someone ask them about it. Don't spread rumors and lies. Some things would be explained if you just ask.
There are several wonderful Orgers that are not here any more because people were total jerks to them.
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Reply #96 posted 02/05/08 5:59am

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shellyevon said:

There is an over all problem and it ian't just in P&R.
People are throwing out rumors as facts and personally attacking people in public on the boards when there is no basis for the attacks.

If you have a problem with someone ask them about it. Don't spread rumors and lies. Some things would be explained if you just ask.
There are several wonderful Orgers that are not here any more because people were total jerks to them.



hey u, I haven't seen you in a minute...or have i eek hug
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Reply #97 posted 02/05/08 6:14am

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Rhondab said:

shellyevon said:

There is an over all problem and it ian't just in P&R.
People are throwing out rumors as facts and personally attacking people in public on the boards when there is no basis for the attacks.

If you have a problem with someone ask them about it. Don't spread rumors and lies. Some things would be explained if you just ask.
There are several wonderful Orgers that are not here any more because people were total jerks to them.



hey u, I haven't seen you in a minute...or have i eek hug

hug I'm not here much any more. Should be having more time soon rose
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Reply #98 posted 02/05/08 2:28pm

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shellyevon said:

There is an over all problem and it ian't just in P&R.
People are throwing out rumors as facts and personally attacking people in public on the boards when there is no basis for the attacks.

If you have a problem with someone ask them about it. Don't spread rumors and lies. Some things would be explained if you just ask.
There are several wonderful Orgers that are not here any more because people were total jerks to them.


wont happen.. you know ppl 'thrive' on that stuff .. they gotta make somebody else miserable in order to live themselves .. confronting ppl in a respectful manner 'to talk'? help us ..
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Reply #99 posted 02/05/08 7:23pm

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MuthaFunka said:

Rhondab said:




Now I'm sure nothing will be done. Just locking a thread does nothing.

That was a clear case of baiting.

I'm so close to just leaving.


I completely agree and feel you on that one.


oh, so you can bait mutha, as long as no one else does? please. falloff
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Reply #100 posted 02/05/08 7:50pm

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evenstar said:

MuthaFunka said:



I completely agree and feel you on that one.


oh, so you can bait mutha, as long as no one else does? please. falloff


So YOU called ME a "racist" out of nowhere and you wanna go there? Seriously? WOW. spit
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Reply #101 posted 02/05/08 7:55pm

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MuthaFunka said:

evenstar said:



oh, so you can bait mutha, as long as no one else does? please. falloff


So YOU called ME a "racist" out of nowhere and you wanna go there? Seriously? WOW. spit

you three leave the attitude in PnR!!!!

this is a calm place where we only love each other
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Reply #102 posted 02/05/08 7:55pm

evenstar

MuthaFunka said:

evenstar said:



oh, so you can bait mutha, as long as no one else does? please. falloff


So YOU called ME a "racist" out of nowhere and you wanna go there? Seriously? WOW. spit


where'd i do that? and yeah, you baited in rhonda's thread and you know it. shrug
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Reply #103 posted 02/05/08 7:57pm

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ehuffnsd said:

MuthaFunka said:



So YOU called ME a "racist" out of nowhere and you wanna go there? Seriously? WOW. spit

you three leave the attitude in PnR!!!!

this is a calm place where we only love each other


Wrong, what you SHOULD have said was "evenstar, why even bring that mess in here?".

So, why didn't you?
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Reply #104 posted 02/05/08 8:00pm

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MuthaFunka said:

ehuffnsd said:


you three leave the attitude in PnR!!!!

this is a calm place where we only love each other


Wrong, what you SHOULD have said was "evenstar, why even bring that mess in here?".

So, why didn't you?

cause we all play a part in it. this is what i was talking about ignoring the situation. it's a message board on prince site for crying out loud. world problems and personal issues aren't going to be worked out here. niether is beating each other over the head until one side gives up.

when we put out negativity we get that back. if i see any more baiting or trolling or attacking on this thread i'll ask the mods to lock it.
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Reply #105 posted 02/05/08 8:00pm

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evenstar said:

MuthaFunka said:



So YOU called ME a "racist" out of nowhere and you wanna go there? Seriously? WOW. spit


where'd i do that? and yeah, you baited in rhonda's thread and you know it. shrug


http://prince.org/msg/105/260019?&pg=2

i meant specifically that i didn't understand why you'd call yourself a racist, since you seemingly were in that post.


And who did I bait in Rhonda's post? Give me the name(s). Didn't think so.
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Reply #106 posted 02/05/08 8:02pm

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ehuffnsd said:

MuthaFunka said:



Wrong, what you SHOULD have said was "evenstar, why even bring that mess in here?".

So, why didn't you?

cause we all play a part in it. this is what i was talking about ignoring the situation. it's a message board on prince site for crying out loud. world problems and personal issues aren't going to be worked out here. niether is beating each other over the head until one side gives up.

when we put out negativity we get that back. if i see any more baiting or trolling or attacking on this thread i'll ask the mods to lock it.


Then that's exactly why you should have admonished the instigator first and foremost. That's the problem. No one wants to dea with the provoker and that's where you'll nip all of this in the bud.
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Reply #107 posted 02/05/08 8:07pm

evenstar

MuthaFunka said:[quote]

evenstar said:



http://prince.org/msg/105/260019?&pg=2

i meant specifically that i didn't understand why you'd call yourself a racist, since you seemingly were in that post.


And who did I bait in Rhonda's post? Give me the name(s). Didn't think so.


...i wasn't calling you a racist there. see how my comment goes 'you calling yourself one'? you said Tiger's considered black because of racism. and again, how does this have anything to do with what i originally said? i'm

you baited all the non-american orgers you've bitched with in the past. all of us know who they are. lol don't play innocent, i'm just saying it goes both ways, and hey, you're the one talking about 'eliminating baiters'.
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Reply #108 posted 02/05/08 8:09pm

evenstar

ehuffnsd said:

MuthaFunka said:



Wrong, what you SHOULD have said was "evenstar, why even bring that mess in here?".

So, why didn't you?

cause we all play a part in it. this is what i was talking about ignoring the situation. it's a message board on prince site for crying out loud. world problems and personal issues aren't going to be worked out here. niether is beating each other over the head until one side gives up.

when we put out negativity we get that back. if i see any more baiting or trolling or attacking on this thread i'll ask the mods to lock it.


sorry ehuff, i'll try to discuss this another way then.
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Reply #109 posted 02/05/08 8:09pm

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