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PrintableJanfriend said: evenstar said: 
he's got a point. No he doesn't, because neither he or you really know what things I'm talking about that have happened over time. It is not you or anyone else's place to tell them to leave or stay anywhere, unless it's your home Then if you can't bring the "proof" that people are acting like God (who,if you believe in him is supposed to be perfect in justice and love,so if they are acting like him them you as the imperfect one would,by definition be wrong so i am all for "God" moderating here.) then why bring it up here. If the proof has to stay private then keep the beef private otherwise you just look like a plum with a problem. IMHO | |
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evenstar said: Janfriend said: No he doesn't, because neither he or you really know what things I'm talking about that have happened over time. It is not you or anyone else's place to tell them to leave or stay anywhere, unless it's your home it's not telling, it's suggesting. 
so what, your only point here is to offer gloomy allusions to the secret underbelly of org moderation without being constructive at all? awesome. Constructive? Give an examples on how to be constructive on this topic without giving specific examples that are against the forum rules? You just want to be nosey | |
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Janfriend said: mdiver said: 
Ok i see all reasonable thought has left the building.Is that seriously your answer? What are you 5? Funny. You're not in a place to tell anybody what to do where did i "tell"? i said you had an option, simple. | |
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Janfriend said: evenstar said: it's not telling, it's suggesting.
so what, your only point here is to offer gloomy allusions to the secret underbelly of org moderation without being constructive at all? awesome. Constructive? Give an examples on how to be constructive on this topic without giving specific examples that are against the forum rules? You just want to be nosey what rhonda did with this thread! & sweetie, i honestly don't care about org gossip, i just think it's shitty to attack the moderators who by and large do well in managing this unruly place. | |
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mdiver said: Janfriend said: No he doesn't, because neither he or you really know what things I'm talking about that have happened over time. It is not you or anyone else's place to tell them to leave or stay anywhere, unless it's your home Then if you can't bring the "proof" that people are acting like God (who,if you believe in him is supposed to be perfect in justice and love,so if they are acting like him them you as the imperfect one would,by definition be wrong so i am all for "God" moderating here.) then why bring it up here. If the proof has to stay private then keep the beef private otherwise you just look like a plum with a problem. IMHO You don't get it. No one is God, but if a human acts like God, they are abusing their power because they are imperfect. Hell God really isn't perfect either, but that's another topic | |
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mdiver said: Janfriend said: Funny. You're not in a place to tell anybody what to do where did i "tell"? i said you had an option, simple. You most certainly did not say "option" You said There is a really simple solution to it though, if you don't like the way it is done...leave That is telling someone what to do. Not your place | |
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evenstar said: Janfriend said: Constructive? Give an examples on how to be constructive on this topic without giving specific examples that are against the forum rules? You just want to be nosey what rhonda did with this thread! & sweetie, i honestly don't care about org gossip, i just think it's shitty to attack the moderators who by and large do well in managing this unruly place. No they fucking don't. I'm not talking about gossip. I'm talking about the truth. Don't fucking call me sweetie You and m have already taken this was off-base | |
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Janfriend said: evenstar said: what rhonda did with this thread! & sweetie, i honestly don't care about org gossip, i just think it's shitty to attack the moderators who by and large do well in managing this unruly place. No they fucking don't. I'm not talking about gossip. I'm talking about the truth. Don't fucking call me sweetie You and m have already taken this was off-base it's your opinion that they don't. the majority opinion, i think, is that they do. and chill out, for christ's sake, this is just a website, remember? | |
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Janfriend said: mdiver said: where did i "tell"? i said you had an option, simple. You most certainly did not say "option" You said There is a really simple solution to it though, if you don't like the way it is done...leave That is telling someone what to do. Not your place Did you see the word "if" that means that the choice is yours based on what you feel. Your choice not my order. Stop being so melodramatic and either take this private or be constructive. NOW THAT WAS TELLING YOU. | |
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Janfriend said: evenstar said: what rhonda did with this thread! & sweetie, i honestly don't care about org gossip, i just think it's shitty to attack the moderators who by and large do well in managing this unruly place. No they fucking don't. I'm not talking about gossip. I'm talking about the truth. Don't fucking call me sweetie You and m have already taken this was off-base How is this off base? It is simply that we don't agree with you. You think they do a bad job We think they do a good job as does the majority So the onus is on you to show how,why and where they are doing a bad job so that if you are proved correct the majority can try and effect a change. You won't or can't do that. Its totally on topic just that you don't like it. A bit like how you got started on this thread | |
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evenstar said: Janfriend said: No they fucking don't. I'm not talking about gossip. I'm talking about the truth. Don't fucking call me sweetie You and m have already taken this was off-base it's your opinion that they don't. the majority opinion, i think, is that they do. and chill out, for christ's sake, this is just a website, remember? Unless you poll everyone, you have no clue what the majority thinks. Many people have stopped complaining because nothing gets resolved. Here a non-complex example for you (not just from me): A thread is removed or locked and when asked in private why, there is no response from the mod | |
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Janfriend said: evenstar said: it's your opinion that they don't. the majority opinion, i think, is that they do. and chill out, for christ's sake, this is just a website, remember? Unless you poll everyone, you have no clue what the majority thinks. Many people have stopped complaining because nothing gets resolved. Here a non-complex example for you (not just from me): A thread is removed or locked and when asked in private why, there is no response from the mod That is not an example that is a scenario. Anyone looking at that would need the circumstances, how people were acting, what was being said, who's thread and who asked why? etc etc | |
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mdiver said: Janfriend said: You most certainly did not say "option" You said There is a really simple solution to it though, if you don't like the way it is done...leave That is telling someone what to do. Not your place Did you see the word "if" that means that the choice is yours based on what you feel. Your choice not my order. Stop being so melodramatic and either take this private or be constructive. NOW THAT WAS TELLING YOU. Don't fucking tell me what to do. I can complain if I want. The same damn question applies to you: How does one be constructive without talking about specific, detailed situations | |
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Janfriend said: evenstar said: it's your opinion that they don't. the majority opinion, i think, is that they do. and chill out, for christ's sake, this is just a website, remember? Unless you poll everyone, you have no clue what the majority thinks. Many people have stopped complaining because nothing gets resolved. Here a non-complex example for you (not just from me): A thread is removed or locked and when asked in private why, there is no response from the mod THERE you go. was that really so hard? and yeah, i agree, if something like that happens it isn't right, but unless i'm wrong i think the mods only deal with the thread's creator and not anyone else who posted on it. | |
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mdiver said: Janfriend said: No they fucking don't. I'm not talking about gossip. I'm talking about the truth. Don't fucking call me sweetie You and m have already taken this was off-base How is this off base? It is simply that we don't agree with you. You think they do a bad job We think they do a good job as does the majority So the onus is on you to show how,why and where they are doing a bad job so that if you are proved correct the majority can try and effect a change. You won't or can't do that. Its totally on topic just that you don't like it. A bit like how you got started on this thread You really don't know what the majority thinks. Does the majority confide every situation with you? No. I don't have to prove how they do a bad job just like you don't have to prove how they do a good job. Don't ask me to something you can't or won't do. Maybe they mods will let you talk about specifics that make them look good What exactly is it that I don't like? | |
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evenstar said: Janfriend said: Unless you poll everyone, you have no clue what the majority thinks. Many people have stopped complaining because nothing gets resolved. Here a non-complex example for you (not just from me): A thread is removed or locked and when asked in private why, there is no response from the mod THERE you go. was that really so hard? and yeah, i agree, if something like that happens it isn't right, but unless i'm wrong i think the mods only deal with the thread's creator and not anyone else who posted on it.What makes you think I'm not talking about a thread's creator???? That was a simple one. There are deeper ones | |
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Janfriend said: mdiver said: Did you see the word "if" that means that the choice is yours based on what you feel. Your choice not my order. Stop being so melodramatic and either take this private or be constructive. NOW THAT WAS TELLING YOU. Don't fucking tell me what to do. I can complain if I want. The same damn question applies to you: How does one be constructive without talking about specific, detailed situations 
Then like i say, you know the rules, if you wanna discuss specifics do it one on one. | |
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Janfriend said: evenstar said: THERE you go. was that really so hard? and yeah, i agree, if something like that happens it isn't right, but unless i'm wrong i think the mods only deal with the thread's creator and not anyone else who posted on it.What makes you think I'm not talking about a thread's creator???? That was a simple one. There are deeper ones yes, that you can't talk about, i know. okay, so all the mods are evil and try to control/censor us unfairly, all the time. what do you propose we do then? | |
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Janfriend said: mdiver said: How is this off base? It is simply that we don't agree with you. You think they do a bad job We think they do a good job as does the majority So the onus is on you to show how,why and where they are doing a bad job so that if you are proved correct the majority can try and effect a change. You won't or can't do that. Its totally on topic just that you don't like it. A bit like how you got started on this thread You really don't know what the majority thinks. Does the majority confide every situation with you? No. I don't have to prove how they do a bad job just like you don't have to prove how they do a good job. Don't ask me to something you can't or won't do. Maybe they mods will let you talk about specifics that make them look good What exactly is it that I don't like? This thread is proof that the majority are happy otherwise it would be 100's of unhappy posts. As it is there are 2 people. And specifically you don't like it when people don't agree with you. As amply demonstrated by you ordering me to shut up. (BTW i didn't get pissy and all with you on that one) | |
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mdiver said: Janfriend said: Don't fucking tell me what to do. I can complain if I want. The same damn question applies to you: How does one be constructive without talking about specific, detailed situations
Then like i say, you know the rules, if you wanna discuss specifics do it one on one. What??? Maybe you should go back to the beginning of this thread. Specifics have been discussed one on one with mods by many people here and nothing is done about those issues. I can give a general statement if I want without giving YOU the details in public | |
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mdiver said: Janfriend said: You really don't know what the majority thinks. Does the majority confide every situation with you? No. I don't have to prove how they do a bad job just like you don't have to prove how they do a good job. Don't ask me to something you can't or won't do. Maybe they mods will let you talk about specifics that make them look good What exactly is it that I don't like? This thread is proof that the majority are happy otherwise it would be 100's of unhappy posts. As it is there are 2 people. And specifically you don't like it when people don't agree with you. As amply demonstrated by you ordering me to shut up. (BTW i didn't get pissy and all with you on that one)The majority? Only only you and evenstar have posted positively about the mods. The rest were mods. That does not count as the majority. Many people gave up on speaking out I don't like it when people are condescending, rude, think they know how I feel, and get personal with me. I could care less if you disagree | |
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evenstar said: Janfriend said: What makes you think I'm not talking about a thread's creator???? That was a simple one. There are deeper ones yes, that you can't talk about, i know. okay, so all the mods are evil and try to control/censor us unfairly, all the time. what do you propose we do then? Replace them or pay them. Maybe paying them will help them care more. Maybe Ben should sell the org to someone who will be around and give a damn to complaints | |
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Janfriend said: mdiver said: This thread is proof that the majority are happy otherwise it would be 100's of unhappy posts. As it is there are 2 people. And specifically you don't like it when people don't agree with you. As amply demonstrated by you ordering me to shut up. (BTW i didn't get pissy and all with you on that one)The majority? Only only you and evenstar have posted positively about the mods. The rest were mods. That does not count as the majority. Many people gave up on speaking out I don't like it when people are condescending, rude, think they know how I feel, and get personal with me. I could care less if you disagree Do you live in the real world. You are a prime example, when people are unhappy then they bitch, simple. The only people bitching on this thread are you and Rhonda and even Rhondas was constructive and non aggressive. Sweetheart, your feelings are VERY obvious here, you don't have to tell us that you could care less. | |
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Janfriend said: evenstar said: yes, that you can't talk about, i know. okay, so all the mods are evil and try to control/censor us unfairly, all the time. what do you propose we do then? Replace them or pay them. Maybe paying them will help them care more. Maybe Ben should sell the org to someone who will be around and give a damn to complaints interesting idea, but i think things would get worse if the org became a paysite.  | |
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mdiver said: Janfriend said: The majority? Only only you and evenstar have posted positively about the mods. The rest were mods. That does not count as the majority. Many people gave up on speaking out I don't like it when people are condescending, rude, think they know how I feel, and get personal with me. I could care less if you disagree Do you live in the real world. You are a prime example, when people are unhappy then they bitch, simple. The only people bitching on this thread are you and Rhonda and even Rhondas was constructive and non aggressive. Sweetheart, your feelings are VERY obvious here, you don't have to tell us that you could care less. I'm not your fucking sweetheart. Would you call a man sweetheart? You don't know anything about my feelings. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Move on. I don't even know how you would dare speak about something you know nothing about. You are a prime example of when people don't know what's going on, they think everything is good and criticize those who give an opposing opinion | |
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Janfriend said: evenstar said: yes, that you can't talk about, i know. okay, so all the mods are evil and try to control/censor us unfairly, all the time. what do you propose we do then? Replace them or pay them. Maybe paying them will help them care more. Maybe Ben should sell the org to someone who will be around and give a damn to complaints So are you gonna pony up the dough? | |
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Janfriend said: mdiver said: Do you live in the real world. You are a prime example, when people are unhappy then they bitch, simple. The only people bitching on this thread are you and Rhonda and even Rhondas was constructive and non aggressive. Sweetheart, your feelings are VERY obvious here, you don't have to tell us that you could care less. I'm not your fucking sweetheart. Would you call a man sweetheart? You don't know anything about my feelings. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Move on. I don't even know how you would dare speak about something you know nothing about. You are a prime example of when people don't know what's going on, they think everything is good and criticize those who give an opposing opinion I have no problem calling a man sweetheart, i am very secure in my sexuality thankyou. Dayum you are tetchy. Seriously grow a set. | |
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mdiver said: Janfriend said: Replace them or pay them. Maybe paying them will help them care more. Maybe Ben should sell the org to someone who will be around and give a damn to complaints So are you gonna pony up the dough? I most certainly would, but I feel it is the owners responsibility to pay his employees | |
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mdiver said: Janfriend said: I'm not your fucking sweetheart. Would you call a man sweetheart? You don't know anything about my feelings. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Move on. I don't even know how you would dare speak about something you know nothing about. You are a prime example of when people don't know what's going on, they think everything is good and criticize those who give an opposing opinion I have no problem calling a man sweetheart, i am very secure in my sexuality thankyou. Dayum you are tetchy. Seriously grow a set. I speak English, not slang. I have no idea what "grow a set" means, but I am an adult and I do not appreciate you trying to display superiority by calling me sweetheart or any other variation of that. I know what you meant when you called me that. You were being condescending and sexist | |
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Janfriend said: mdiver said: I have no problem calling a man sweetheart, i am very secure in my sexuality thankyou. Dayum you are tetchy. Seriously grow a set. I speak English, not slang. I have no idea what "grow a set" means, but I am an adult and I do not appreciate you trying to display superiority by calling me sweetheart or any other variation of that. I know what you meant when you called me that. You were being condescending and sexist um. so i'm sexist too? come off it.
anyway. i think it's been said before that the org won't become a paysite because then everyone who pays will want equal input, and with that many possible conflicting viewpoints it'd get way too complicated. | |
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