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Mutually-acceptable guidelines can be agreed upon for unofficial fan sites? This statement makes me very uncomfortable. Just wanted to state that.
taken from: http://princefansunited.com/ [Edited 11/20/07 15:29pm] Space for sale... | |
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I have to wonder exactly what kind of guideline$ are being agreed upon between Prince'$ organization and the unofficial fan $ite$...not that i'm worried about any particular outcome$, like buyout$ or anything...i ju$t like typing dollar $ymbols.  | |
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There's something called the law, I think it's probably guideline enough. "this especially prepared potato is called pomme de terre" | |
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oh, me too. I felt a little strange when I read that.
Why should we have to accept any guidelines from the little guy? Tell him to set up his own damn forums.  | |
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I am disturbed by that damned thumbprint with f.u.n.k on it replacing the pfu hand
It gives the impression this place is under the thumb and no prizes for guessing whose And wtf set him up as an internet regulator? [Edited 11/20/07 20:23pm] | |
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note that the org does not have that graphic displayed. the other two sites do. interesting. Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: note that the org does not have that graphic displayed. the other two sites do. interesting.
No it just took the hand down instead I dont use the other two sites to be honest so I dont know what goes on on them Are any of these sites UK based? | |
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Markland said: sosgemini said: note that the org does not have that graphic displayed. the other two sites do. interesting.
No it just took the hand down instead I dont use the other two sites to be honest so I dont know what goes on on them Are any of these sites UK based? don't know...i don't really know much about those sites either. Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: Markland said: No it just took the hand down instead I dont use the other two sites to be honest so I dont know what goes on on them Are any of these sites UK based? don't know...i don't really know much about those sites either. I am seriously considering setting up a UK based webpage and asking a few fans to sign over the copyright of pics they own the rights to I don't mind giving WS a run for their money just to prove what bullshit this is I bet they most they do is threaten to sue me in the US or Outer Mongolia or somewhere | |
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sosgemini said: This statement makes me very uncomfortable. Just wanted to state that.
taken from: http://princefansunited.com/ Why? A) What is it about the statement that makes you uncomfortable? It just looks like the usual kind of statement that's issued when two parties enter into talks to resolve a dispute. As the statement has to be jointly approved, it will contain both parties point of view and will not go into any specific detail as talks like this are always confidential. B) Why do you feel the need to publicly state that you're uncomfortable? The reason these kind of talks are always confidential is to avoid outside opinions (particularly the press etc.) influencing and/or jeopardizing the outcome. I might expect a random statement like this from a regular member, but not from a mod. I doubt Ben would appreciate this. [Edited 11/21/07 1:59am] | |
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BorisFishpaw said: sosgemini said: This statement makes me very uncomfortable. Just wanted to state that.
taken from: http://princefansunited.com/ Why? A) What is it about the statement that makes you uncomfortable? It just looks like the usual kind of statement that's issued when two parties enter into talks to resolve a dispute. As the statement has to be jointly approved, it will contain both parties point of view and will not go into any specific detail as talks like this are always confidential. B) Why do you feel the need to publicly state that you're uncomfortable? The reason these kind of talks are always confidential is to avoid outside opinions (particularly the press etc.) influencing and/or jeopardizing the outcome. I might expect a random statement like this from a regular member, but not from a mod. I doubt Ben would appreciate this. [Edited 11/21/07 1:59am] "mutually acceptable guidelines"? This isnt princes site to have any say in how its run the same way its not princes intellectual property in most cases that he is demanding is removed This is big brother at its worst Personally, whilst I am grateful to ben for providing a forum for discussion here, I am equally grateful to the moderators for their honesty and hard work They have a right to free speech and the right to exercise it and voice their concerns Stop trying to muzzle people | |
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BorisFishpaw said: sosgemini said: This statement makes me very uncomfortable. Just wanted to state that.
taken from: http://princefansunited.com/ Why? A) What is it about the statement that makes you uncomfortable? It leads one to think that three fan websites are agreeing upon guidelines for all fan websites. It just looks like the usual kind of statement that's issued when two parties enter into talks to resolve a dispute. As the statement has to be jointly approved, it will contain both parties point of view and will not go into any specific detail as talks like this are always confidential. B) Why do you feel the need to publicly state that you're uncomfortable? The reason these kind of talks are always confidential is to avoid outside opinions (particularly the press etc.) influencing and/or jeopardizing the outcome. I might expect a random statement like this from a regular member, but not from a mod. I doubt Ben would appreciate this. Ben has been very honest and open about his thoughts during this process and i am confident that he would want the same for us mods and orgers...regardless of view...hence us allowing the anti-org commentary to stray posted. now, i can accept mutual agreement of what is copyright and what isnt but the language currently being used, "mutual guideline" just doesn't sit well with me...this is an independent website afterall. Space for sale... | |
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another issue:
i would strongly suggest that the statement mentioned in the title of this thread be changed to "our unofficial fan sites". as is currently stated it sounds like the "prince fans united" organization is trying to speak for all online prince fan sites. this issue is now a national story and anything that can appear as misleading probably isn't a good thing. IMHO. Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: another issue:
i would strongly suggest that the statement mentioned in the title of this thread be changed to "our unofficial fan sites". as is currently stated it sounds like the "prince fans united" organization is trying to speak for all online prince fan sites. this issue is now a national story and anything that can appear as misleading probably isn't a good thing. IMHO. I dont think anyone believes for a moment that the websites are doing anything except speak for the three sites affected by this tawdry legal nonsense But you are right, its the type of thing his "representatives" would pick up on to make a point What I have noticed is the press release alleging that the fan sites are "phoney" and making money off the fans/fams has never publicly been corrected or retracted Despite claims that it was released "in error" and received worldwide publication "The first casualty in war is always the truth" | |
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I can't speak too much of what's going on at the moment but I think you guys shouldn't get too hung up on the particular semantics there. Both sides do want to come to an agreement, or at least understanding. Don't stress out (well, not yet anyhow about the wording of what's going on, it's mostly procedural at this point.ben -- "the prince.org guy" |
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ben said: I can't speak too much of what's going on at the moment but I think you guys shouldn't get too hung up on the particular semantics there. Both sides do want to come to an agreement, or at least understanding. Don't stress out (well, not yet anyhow
about the wording of what's going on, it's mostly procedural at this point.Firstly thanks for providing a great site to discuss all things purple on With regard to these "negotiations" Could you just make sure that fans are allowed to post their own pics regardless of who they are of to which the taker owns the copyright please? I can fully understand photos commissioned by prince or artwork to which he owns the rights not being posted and fully endorse that action, but regarding material that he has no ownership of whatsoever, could you please put the fans pics back up? [Edited 11/22/07 17:32pm] [Edited 11/22/07 17:33pm] | |
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Markland said: I can fully understand photos commissioned by prince or artwork to which he owns the rights not being posted and fully endorse that action, but regarding material that he has no ownership of whatsoever, could you please put the fans pics back up?
This is entirely in line with my desires and goals. ben -- "the prince.org guy" |
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It just means Prince is gonna get his way, period!  | |
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wlcm2thdwn said: It just means Prince is gonna get his way, period!
I bloody hope not The last idiot who went for world domination was one Mr A Hitler He didnt get his own way either | |
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ben said: Markland said: I can fully understand photos commissioned by prince or artwork to which he owns the rights not being posted and fully endorse that action, but regarding material that he has no ownership of whatsoever, could you please put the fans pics back up?
This is entirely in line with my desires and goals. And to back Ben up, is fully within the draft being worked on. As Ben said, don't get too hung up on wording. | |
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I say this is the only guideline we suggest:
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