pplrain said:

You seem to like asking questions and never answering them

When your specious arguments are surgically dissected and shown for what they are you resort to pat one line replies with no substance to support your argument

You stated "Funny I could stir up so much emotion with my posts... LOL!! I probably will DIE laughing if I don't stop now!"

And thats exactly what you set out to achieve, emotive reactions to emotive barbs

Your posts are contrived and designed to do nothing more than whip up controversy and cause adverse reactions

And then, after you poke the dog with a stick, you wonder why it bites you

Your posts do nothing to further any discussion, they are simply designed to provoke a reaction

If you really need that much attention try getting it in the real world and not off a message board

Markland said:

You see, that is exactly the problem. Why is it impossible to address the points another orger makes (if they make sense to you or not) in a respectful way without questioning that person's motivations and integrity?

In the time I've spent here, I've (besides many excellent threads) read so much nonsense that I have to say: what pplrain (agree with him/her or not) posts is so far away from that (in both style and content) that I don't see any reason why it should be impossible to type some normal replies.

I've gone through this thread, and if you add up everything pplrain has posted and everything other (angry) members have posted, then the overall record of these "other members" is honstly quite shocking.

How far has this place gone? Is it really impossible now to voice a different opinion without being bullied? Do we all have to switch off our brains just because Prince Nelson is in diva mode again?

EmancipationLover said:

Try taking a look at all of pplrains comments across all threads

There is a familiar theme, wind up other orgers to get a reaction

Just for the record I have never accused pplrain of having ADD or any other illness

I have tried to engage pplrain in intelligent debate, answering questions raised and raising questions of my own

All of which remain unanswered

Pplrain admits to enjoying whipping up emotive responses and finds it highly amusing

From the tone of pplrains posts there is a common thread of "poking the dog with a stick"

If you poke dogs with sticks they tend to warn you a couple of times then bite

Pplrain got bitten

I dont necessarily approve of some of the remarks people have posted in reply, nor do I condone abuse or "flaming" as its euphemistcally phrased

But, frankly, I can see why they have reacted that way

People will always have differing opinions, thats part of lifes rich tapestry

But to deliberately find amusement in winding other people up, by pplrains own admission, is as bad as the people who have expressed anger in the form of abuse

I actually thought my post was quote polite, which you seem to doubt

The only point I can see that you might find objectionable is the part about attention seeking

I genuinally believe that pplrains posts are contrived, and by his/her/its own admission, done for his/her/its own amusement

The only underlying motive I can think of for that is attention seeking as there is no attempt to engage in an actual debate merely specious cheap shots

The best way to sum this up is with an old saying:

"As ye sow, so shall ye reap"

Markland said:

Again you are wrong about me! You don't know me, quit with the assumptions.
I came here with questions after my original post, instead of answers all I got was ridicule.
This thread speaks for itself as to how Prince's fans/fams are treated by Non-fans and also by the Mods here at Prince.org. Also the re-definition of the word FAM is noted and is quite different from what Prince himself defined it for his fans. I was the most civil in these threads and asking questions waiting paitiently for answers and yet my questions remain
unanswered. I still want to know how offensive does a comment have to be before it become "hate" speech.
[Edited 11/21/07 5:27am]

pplrain said:

You're only getting what you dish out.

The hypocrisy of what you're saying here is hilarious as your general fammish posts are.

Likewise you know nothing about me and still you freely spewed ridiculous statements against me with unfortunate, and often hilarious confidence.


[snip - CarrieMpls]

ADD?

sosgemini said:

Attention
Deficit
Disorder

mdiver said:

I know that...i'm just confused how it got thrown into this discussion.

pplrain said:

Since WHEN have I replied to "every one of your posts"?

pplrain said:

That is just your latest one, what about all the questions you have been asked and fail to answer?

You dont debate you simply and deliberately provoke responses then boast about how much it amuses you

I have been nothing but polite and civil to you, and, frankly, in return, have received nothing but glib remarks and you boasting about how much it amuses you to provoke "emotion" as you put it

If that isnt an admission that you are only posting to wind people up I dont know what is

And how dare you accuse me and others of not being fans

Whats the basis for that statement?

That people dont agree with your comments therefore we cant be fans?

Theres logic for you

Your problem is you can dish out crap and not take it

Get over yourself

luv4u said:

I have been saying the same exact thing that practically everyone else has been saying to this twit, yet I'M the only one who is snipped. What's the difference between ignorant and dense?

This is some SERIOUS bullshit favoritism and discrimination.

sosgemini said:

I dunno, i cant concentrate for that long

Markland said:

Don't twist my words to become what you want them to be. My amused response was in frustration to not getting any answers but jabs of ridicule. If you read my posts your ques were already answered.
I was very civil throughout my post prior to it.
I still don't have the answers and so my conclusion is that you guys can slag Prince all you want and pretend to be his fans and he will not have an option but to take it? I am not so sure about that.
It is no wonder he want to shut it down and I for one hope he gets his way and lots of $$ to boot. He is mistreated here and so are his fans. TY

pplrain said:

#1 How the hell does he get mistreated here?
#2 If he is wtf are YOU doing here?

pplrain said:

I didnt twist your words, I didn't need to

Its also nice to see you enjoying the hospitality of bens site and at the same time hoping he gets sued for loads of money

I also think the constant martyr stance you are taking is wearing a trifle thin

You come out with comments you know will get a reaction then carp on when you get the reactions you so obviously desire

I would also dispute your definition of civil

As for questions being answered, the few questions I asked you you ducked behind your right to silence to avoid answering them so that is another red herring

Finally I have one question for you that I would like an answer to, as you are obviously so unhappy and victimised on this message board

The question is:

Why are you here?

god damnit
[Edited 11/21/07 8:19am]

mdiver said:

for right now (cause cable is boring) .. the saga going on here is better than a movie..

I need to make an important announcement!!!!

If everyone ignores One Particular Poster, she'll just be talkin' to herself...

xplnyrslf said:

I figure she does that anyway.

xplnyrslf said:

Tricky99:
"Prince.org is dead
Who killed it? After this whole debacle, wouldn't it be better to rename this site something else? I think the remaining participants might be happier, and Prince himself would be. Whoever’s side u are on, in this debate (I'm not on either) I think that u have to admit that the so-called mission of Prince.org appears to be obsolete.

It seems that a lot of the people, who don't want to call Prince names, have decided to remove themselves from the site. What appears to be left are a bunch of unhappy ex-prince fans. If Prince was unhappy with the site to begin with, I can only assume he really hates it now. Who would want a site around named after them, that seems to be more about putting them down, than celebrating them? Is that now the point of its existence?

Over the years, I have felt that Prince was the "goose that laid the golden egg". Eventually the greed and obsessiveness of his fans, would turn on him. The man can't seem to age gracefully without the so-called fans harping on what he is not, as opposed to what he still is. Every move he makes, every song he creates, is brutalized by some segment of the fan base. It’s almost like too many of us saw Prince as some God, but when he was revealed as just a very talented human being, all this anger is thrust at him. The bitterness and nastiness that is exhibited here, is really breathtaking. I'm hoping that many of the extremely negative things said here are said by children. It’s hard to believe adults can be so down right viscious and petty."


THIS is bullshit:
“(I'm not on either)" side, that is...?

Hypocrisy: insincerity, double standards, pretense, duplicity, two-facedness.

Oh! "Every move he makes, every song he creates".....are you cribbing from the Police???
"nastiness that is exhibited here, is really breathtaking." And I take it you're still breathing.....

Has anyone seen Tricky?.....the last post was 11/16, on this topic. Maybe he/she became so "breathless", the individual is now deceased. No CPR coming from this end. Flowers, either.


[Edited 11/22/07 20:37pm]

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