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Reply #30 posted 11/16/07 4:27pm

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Who killed it? After this whole debacle wouldn't it be better to rename this site something else? I think the remaining participants might be happier and Prince himself would be. Who evers side u are on in this debate (I'm not on either) I think that u have to admit that the so-called mission of Prince.org appears to be obselete.

It seems that a lot of the people who don't want to call Prince names have decided to remove themselves from the site. What appears to be left are a bunch of unhappy ex-prince fans. If Prince was unhappy with the site to begin with I can only assume he really hates it now. Who would want A site around named after them that seems to be more about putting them down than celebriting them? Is that now the point of its existence?

Over the years I have felt that Prince was the "goose that laid the golden egg" eventually the greed and obsessivenes of his fans would turn on him. The man can't seem to age gracefully without the so-called fans harping on what he is not as oppsosed to what he still is. Every move he makes, every song he creates is brutilized by some segment of the fan base. It almost like too many of us saw Prince as some God but when he was revealed as just a very talented human being all this anger is thrust at him. The bitterness and nastiness that is exhibited here is really breathtaking. I'm hoping that many of the extremely negative things said here are said by children. Its hard to believe adults can be so down right vicious and petty.


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Reply #31 posted 11/16/07 4:30pm

gemini13

pplrain said:

Anxiety said:



so the org is dead for fighting what it considers a free speech issue, and that's bad to you, but you stay here because of the free speech?

okay. sounds good to me. lol


How is calling Prince vulgar names and posting pictures of him instead of B*TCH and P***y free speech? Would you like to be called that when you have a name?

How are hateful attacks on his physical attributes "free speech" when he has no control of them?

How is it that people here can go around posting random messages of hate in threads that have nothing to do with the original post??

How are disparaging photoshopped pictures of him "free speech"

and I have several other issues... but this should do for now?

Please enlighten me?


You really have a limited knowledge of free speech is here in America. You need to enlighten yourself. What you described up above is the VERY DEFINITION of what free speech is. DUH!!!
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Reply #32 posted 11/16/07 4:30pm

Anxiety

pplrain said:

Anxiety said:



so the org is dead for fighting what it considers a free speech issue, and that's bad to you, but you stay here because of the free speech?

okay. sounds good to me. lol


How is calling Prince vulgar names and posting pictures of him instead of B*TCH and P***y free speech? Would you like to be called that when you have a name?

How are hateful attacks on his physical attributes "free speech" when he has no control of them?

How is it that people here can go around posting random messages of hate in threads that have nothing to do with the original post??

How are disparaging photoshopped pictures of him "free speech"

and I have several other issues... but this should do for now?

Please enlighten me?


so why are you posting in such an awful place?

"free speech", you say?

maybe to enjoy this "free speech", the price is that you have to be witness to other people's "free speech" which you may not like.

so which is more important? free speech or safe speech?
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Reply #33 posted 11/16/07 4:37pm

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pplrain said:

Anxiety said:



so the org is dead for fighting what it considers a free speech issue, and that's bad to you, but you stay here because of the free speech?

okay. sounds good to me. lol


How is calling Prince vulgar names and posting pictures of him instead of B*TCH and P***y free speech? Would you like to be called that when you have a name?

How are hateful attacks on his physical attributes "free speech" when he has no control of them?

How is it that people here can go around posting random messages of hate in threads that have nothing to do with the original post??

How are disparaging photoshopped pictures of him "free speech"

and I have several other issues... but this should do for now?

Please enlighten me?


Your question is essentially: How is being able to say whatever you want free speech? I refuse to believe anyone, even on this board, is that dense.
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Reply #34 posted 11/16/07 4:38pm

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Anxiety said:

pplrain said:



How is calling Prince vulgar names and posting pictures of him instead of B*TCH and P***y free speech? Would you like to be called that when you have a name?

How are hateful attacks on his physical attributes "free speech" when he has no control of them?

How is it that people here can go around posting random messages of hate in threads that have nothing to do with the original post??

How are disparaging photoshopped pictures of him "free speech"

and I have several other issues... but this should do for now?

Please enlighten me?


so why are you posting in such an awful place?

"free speech", you say?

maybe to enjoy this "free speech", the price is that you have to be witness to other people's "free speech" which you may not like.

so which is more important? free speech or safe speech?


Is that your answer to the questions above? Maybe that is why there are more Prince haters here on Prince.org than there are fans...
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Reply #35 posted 11/16/07 4:41pm

Imago

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Contact 3121: insist the site have forums, such as what's here. Better yet, e-mail Prince and inform him, he needs to develope an alternative site, so members can interact with each other, and only say positive things.
This site allows members to freely state their opinions. Period.
That's not going to change.

Start with NPG, Paisely Park, 3121. There's a solution to the problem. Prince.org isn't going to change site rules for you, or anyone else, when other members are dismayed, by Prince's disappointing behavior, and express so..

God thank you.


People who hate here so much would be better served at 3121 if Prince would just give them forums to post in.


And you know damned well, persons who speak ill of him there would have their accounts banned post haste. So everyone's happy.
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Reply #36 posted 11/16/07 4:42pm

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You are right this site has suffered. But nothing more than arrival of the fams when NPGMC shut down.

Until then, it was a living community that discussed good and bad. Then we had the influx of self proclaimed fams that knew fuck all about Prince's music, the only real insight we have into him.

That was the day music died. Picture threads started. And all the stupid idolisation threads starteds. If you spoke against him, you were now a hater.

That killed the community.

The org isn't dead. It just needs the self proclaimed "positives" ie you, to go back to the source.

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Reply #37 posted 11/16/07 4:43pm

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Imago said:

xplnyrslf said:

Contact 3121: insist the site have forums, such as what's here. Better yet, e-mail Prince and inform him, he needs to develope an alternative site, so members can interact with each other, and only say positive things.
This site allows members to freely state their opinions. Period.
That's not going to change.

Start with NPG, Paisely Park, 3121. There's a solution to the problem. Prince.org isn't going to change site rules for you, or anyone else, when other members are dismayed, by Prince's disappointing behavior, and express so..

God thank you.


People who hate here so much would be better served at 3121 if Prince would just give them forums to post in.


And you know damned well, persons who speak ill of him there would have their accounts banned post haste. So everyone's happy.


Goes back to my point they need to rename this site Anti-Prince.org because that is what it is...thanks to "fans" like you?
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Reply #38 posted 11/16/07 4:50pm

Imago

pplrain said:

Imago said:


God thank you.


People who hate here so much would be better served at 3121 if Prince would just give them forums to post in.


And you know damned well, persons who speak ill of him there would have their accounts banned post haste. So everyone's happy.


Goes back to my point they need to rename this site Anti-Prince.org because that is what it is...thanks to "fans" like you?

You are so stupid. lol


I have praised many of Prince's songs an albums.

But it's nice to have a place where if I dislike a song, album, or something he says or does, I can voice that opinion too.
It's not about being anti-Prince, but allowing all voices to be heard, even when they profess the kind of stupid lunacy you do. falloff
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Reply #39 posted 11/16/07 4:51pm

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pplrain said:

Imago said:


God thank you.


People who hate here so much would be better served at 3121 if Prince would just give them forums to post in.


And you know damned well, persons who speak ill of him there would have their accounts banned post haste. So everyone's happy.


Goes back to my point they need to rename this site Anti-Prince.org because that is what it is...thanks to "fans" like you?



No you just need to leave. Obviously you and a couple of other trolls on here lately aren't happy with this site. So instead of the continual name calling and condemnation of this site, why not just go somewhere else where you'll be happier? Why waste so much of your positive energy on all this negativity?
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[Edited 11/16/07 16:56pm]
The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything.
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Reply #40 posted 11/16/07 4:53pm

Imago

SquirrelMeat said:

You are right this site has suffered. But nothing more than arrival of the fams when NPGMC shut down.

Until then, it was a living community that discussed good and bad. Then we had the influx of self proclaimed fams that knew fuck all about Prince's music, the only real insight we have into him.

That was the day music died. Picture threads started. And all the stupid idolisation threads starteds. If you spoke against him, you were now a hater.

That killed the community.

The org isn't dead. It just needs the self proclaimed "positives" ie you, to go back to the source.

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yup



the org is as alive and vibrant as ever.

If one goes into the fan gatherings forum or the GD forum, he/she can see this. There are fans, former fans, and non-fans all mixing together and having a great time.

It's mostly in this forum that some of the crazies think a monolithic mindset is healthy. So stupid falloff
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Reply #41 posted 11/16/07 4:54pm

Imago

lazycrockett said:

pplrain said:



Goes back to my point they need to rename this site Anti-Prince.org because that is what it is...thanks to "fans" like you?



No you just need to leave.



Oh, I think he/she should stay. Cause it does offer balance to the force.


Besides, I need a good laugh from time to time. lol
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Reply #42 posted 11/16/07 4:56pm

Anxiety

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Anxiety said:



so why are you posting in such an awful place?

"free speech", you say?

maybe to enjoy this "free speech", the price is that you have to be witness to other people's "free speech" which you may not like.

so which is more important? free speech or safe speech?


Is that your answer to the questions above? Maybe that is why there are more Prince haters here on Prince.org than there are fans...


yet you never seem to answer my question. hmmm
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Reply #43 posted 11/16/07 4:56pm

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pplrain said:

Imago said:


God thank you.


People who hate here so much would be better served at 3121 if Prince would just give them forums to post in.


And you know damned well, persons who speak ill of him there would have their accounts banned post haste. So everyone's happy.


Goes back to my point they need to rename this site Anti-Prince.org because that is what it is...thanks to "fans" like you?


Hi babe! So can I ask, why would you chose to hang around a site that you view so badly that you think it should be called the Anti-prince.org?
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Reply #44 posted 11/16/07 4:57pm

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SquirrelMeat said:

You are right this site has suffered. But nothing more than arrival of the fams when NPGMC shut down.

Until then, it was a living community that discussed good and bad. Then we had the influx of self proclaimed fams that knew fuck all about Prince's music, the only real insight we have into him.

That was the day music died. Picture threads started. And all the stupid idolisation threads starteds. If you spoke against him, you were now a hater.

That killed the community.

The org isn't dead. It just needs the self proclaimed "positives" ie you, to go back to the source.

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Hi Squirrel biggrin

Why differentiate a FAN from FAM??

Why should I have a degree in "Prince" to enjoy his music? Why can't I enjoy his music if I was privvy to only one song and know fcuk all about him?

I am an independent thinker and don't follow Prince blindly, but I would like to be called a FAM because that is what he calls his fans.

What is this purple Kool-aid shit??

Prince is NOT perfect but don't you think he has SOME rights??
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Reply #45 posted 11/16/07 4:58pm

ReginaCarman

Don't put words in my mouth, because i am a Very Very Very Very Happy Prince Fan smile heart
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Reply #46 posted 11/16/07 4:58pm

Anxiety

pplrain said:



Prince is NOT perfect but don't you think he has SOME rights??



same rights as everyone else should have.
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Reply #47 posted 11/16/07 5:00pm

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Anxiety said:

pplrain said:



Is that your answer to the questions above? Maybe that is why there are more Prince haters here on Prince.org than there are fans...


yet you never seem to answer my question. hmmm


How about you answer mine and then I answer yours? fair? wink
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Reply #48 posted 11/16/07 5:00pm

Imago

pplrain said:

SquirrelMeat said:

You are right this site has suffered. But nothing more than arrival of the fams when NPGMC shut down.

Until then, it was a living community that discussed good and bad. Then we had the influx of self proclaimed fams that knew fuck all about Prince's music, the only real insight we have into him.

That was the day music died. Picture threads started. And all the stupid idolisation threads starteds. If you spoke against him, you were now a hater.

That killed the community.

The org isn't dead. It just needs the self proclaimed "positives" ie you, to go back to the source.

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Hi Squirrel biggrin

Why differentiate a FAN from FAM??

Why should I have a degree in "Prince" to enjoy his music? Why can't I enjoy his music if I was privvy to only one song and know fcuk all about him?

I am an independent thinker and don't follow Prince blindly, but I would like to be called a FAM because that is what he calls his fans.

What is this purple Kool-aid shit??

Prince is NOT perfect but don't you think he has SOME rights??



And why differentiate between fans who don't blindly like all his material or actions, and are not afraid to voice them?


You certainly don't think your ideas through very well.
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Reply #49 posted 11/16/07 5:06pm

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pplrain said:

SquirrelMeat said:

You are right this site has suffered. But nothing more than arrival of the fams when NPGMC shut down.

Until then, it was a living community that discussed good and bad. Then we had the influx of self proclaimed fams that knew fuck all about Prince's music, the only real insight we have into him.

That was the day music died. Picture threads started. And all the stupid idolisation threads starteds. If you spoke against him, you were now a hater.

That killed the community.

The org isn't dead. It just needs the self proclaimed "positives" ie you, to go back to the source.

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Hi Squirrel biggrin

Why differentiate a FAN from FAM??

Why should I have a degree in "Prince" to enjoy his music? Why can't I enjoy his music if I was privvy to only one song and know fcuk all about him?

I am an independent thinker and don't follow Prince blindly, but I would like to be called a FAM because that is what he calls his fans.

What is this purple Kool-aid shit??

Prince is NOT perfect but don't you think he has SOME rights??


Hi babe. Why differentiate between a FAN from FAM? Because a fan has respect for the output of an artist they do not know or have never met. Good and bad.

A Fam proclaims to know what is right and wrong and how we should all feel about Prince. Haters...if you don't agree.
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Reply #50 posted 11/16/07 5:09pm

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wow, the loads of bolox are really coming out now, without mentioning names, some orgers really know how to come out with aload of shite, and i dont mean the crazies and other lunatics that come on here, some of them are actually very humourous, but there a few a few twisted one minded individuals here, but i wont mention names


<-----wants to badly

but i wont, but, I will, put one thing straight.....

ah, why fucking bother, will just end an dumb, mindless reply anyway wink

I always wondered why the GD forum has the most threads here, I understand now cool
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Reply #51 posted 11/16/07 5:10pm

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SquirrelMeat said:

pplrain said:


Hi Squirrel biggrin

Why differentiate a FAN from FAM??

Why should I have a degree in "Prince" to enjoy his music? Why can't I enjoy his music if I was privvy to only one song and know fcuk all about him?

I am an independent thinker and don't follow Prince blindly, but I would like to be called a FAM because that is what he calls his fans.

What is this purple Kool-aid shit??

Prince is NOT perfect but don't you think he has SOME rights??


Hi babe. Why differentiate between a FAN from FAM? Because a fan has respect for the output of an artist they do not know or have never met. Good and bad.

A Fam proclaims to know what is right and wrong and how we should all feel about Prince. Haters...if you don't agree.


Says who? It's not in Dictionary.com the last time I checked..
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Reply #52 posted 11/16/07 5:14pm

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pplrain said:

How are hateful attacks on his physical attributes "free speech" when he has no control of them?



Please tell me you see the madness in your posts..."how can it be free if he has no control of them"!?!?

Please read that again!

Oh lawd!
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Reply #53 posted 11/16/07 5:15pm

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pplrain said:

SquirrelMeat said:



Hi babe. Why differentiate between a FAN from FAM? Because a fan has respect for the output of an artist they do not know or have never met. Good and bad.

A Fam proclaims to know what is right and wrong and how we should all feel about Prince. Haters...if you don't agree.


Says who? It's not in Dictionary.com the last time I checked..


Correct. So its Prince created. You have dissapeared so far, you now consider yourself a idolisation title that doesn't even appear in the dictionary.
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Reply #54 posted 11/16/07 5:16pm

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SquirrelMeat said:

pplrain said:

How are hateful attacks on his physical attributes "free speech" when he has no control of them?



Please tell me you see the madness in your posts..."how can it be free if he has no control of them"!?!?

Please read that again!

Oh lawd!

How are hateful attacks on his physical attributes "free speech"

he has no control of his physical attributes?
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Reply #55 posted 11/16/07 5:18pm

Imago

pplrain said:

SquirrelMeat said:



Hi babe. Why differentiate between a FAN from FAM? Because a fan has respect for the output of an artist they do not know or have never met. Good and bad.

A Fam proclaims to know what is right and wrong and how we should all feel about Prince. Haters...if you don't agree.


Says who? It's not in Dictionary.com the last time I checked..



It kills me how some self-described "FAMS" are the most FANatical falloff

oh the bitter taste of irony. lol

I'm not asking you to leave the org permanently.


All I'm asking you to do is leave for 5 or 6 hours to sober up or detox, or whatever, then come back and post with a clear mindset.




Please. Do it for the team!
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Reply #56 posted 11/16/07 5:18pm

gemini13

pplrain said:

SquirrelMeat said:



Please tell me you see the madness in your posts..."how can it be free if he has no control of them"!?!?

Please read that again!

Oh lawd!

How are hateful attacks on his physical attributes "free speech"

he has no control of his physical attributes?



OMG GO AWAY!!!!!

Were you born in America?
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Reply #57 posted 11/16/07 5:21pm

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gemini13 said:

pplrain said:


How are hateful attacks on his physical attributes "free speech"

he has no control of his physical attributes?



OMG GO AWAY!!!!!

Were you born in America?



Since when could you control your height....?

Idiot! mad
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Reply #58 posted 11/16/07 5:22pm

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Imago said:

pplrain said:



Says who? It's not in Dictionary.com the last time I checked..



It kills me how some self-described "FAMS" are the most FANatical falloff

oh the bitter taste of irony. lol

I'm not asking you to leave the org permanently.


All I'm asking you to do is leave for 5 or 6 hours to sober up or detox, or whatever, then come back and post with a clear mindset.




Please. Do it for the team!

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there ya go, ya aint evr gonna ruin my make up again
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Reply #59 posted 11/16/07 5:22pm

gemini13

pplrain said:

gemini13 said:




OMG GO AWAY!!!!!

Were you born in America?



Since when could you control your height....?

Idiot! mad



Answer my question, and then go look up the meaning of free speech.
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