Nevermind, I got in Still couldn't figure out how to delete the account tho
[Edited 11/7/07 11:41am]

AndGodCreatedMe said:

Well a great teacher of mine once said "Just cause someone says "Im gonna sue you" ..does not mean they are going to win the fight"

And thats all I have to say

darrenj said:

Well then wouldnt all the tabliods, poparazzi,and negative celebrity sites be out of buisness???

2the9s said:

No, I read it to him over the phone in its entirety twice and then several sections a few more times

He actually laughed at two parts of the letter

1KissAtATyme said:

The reason why celebs don't sue is because they are scared of the tabloids.

And that they might look stupid for being so petty.

They get away with it by instilling fear into there targets.
[Edited 11/7/07 11:50am]

1KissAtATyme said:

my point exactly.

darrenj said:

You are clueless, go get an opinion off an expert

I am legally qualified and have more experience in trademark and copyright law than you can imagine

I double checked my opinion with that of two trading standards officers, one of 18 years experience and one of 20

Exactly what are your qualifications in copyright and trademark law?

And on what do you base your "expert" opinion?

Or are you just here to wind people up as most of your posts appear to do?

Good luck Prince.org and all the other fan sites. Don't take this lying down.

If there is a fighting fund set up, I'll contribute.

The org has been a really great friend to me over the years - in all seriousness, probably the one site that's meant the most to me since I started proper internet usage as a student.

Regardless of legal rights and wrongs, this is just stupid, and really spoils what has been a great couple of years for him.

Markland said:

Are you able to confirm whether or not there is a request for tatoos and license plates to be banned? If so, are you able to provide only that text or is that infringing on the so called copyright of the actual letter if you publish just this piece?

Markland said:

darrenj said:

Its nothing to do with qualifications or experience, it's just good old fashioned common sence.

darrenj said:

But THAT I can truley understand..if a celebrity wanted to sue that tabloids..

If I was a celebrity and there was a fat, cellulosis, spider viens, photoshopped it to make it worse having picture of me on the front cover ..I would go after those who took it..Now thats degrading..and half the time the tabloids make up ridiculous stories to make 2 cents.

And I truley believe that fans would support celebritys in it because the paparazzi expecially can be dangerous (ei Princess Diana). There should be limitations as to how close they can get.

But this is different...

Getting off track here I know

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

The one email that has been published on here relates to the princefansunited website and statements on it

There is no reference to images in it at all

It does try to claim copyright on the content of the letter and is signed not by an individual but simply "web sheriff"

I have not seen any of the other emails or correspondence

I think it would be useful if everyone did see them

It might clarify any possible misconceptions

Markland said:

Yes thats what I would like..even though I'm not in the practice of law..and know very little of it..I would like to make an opinion on my own right to everything thats going on.

psychodelicide said:

I'm praying he will be clear and direct with us. It's time for some answers.

darrenj said:

It has nothing to do with common sense, its a matter of LAW

The two are frequently not connected

Anxiety said:

He might be particularly concerned about chiming in in an informal way if there's any possibility of him becoming formally involved later. I'm not expecting him to say much on the boards.

Which is too bad, cuz I'd love to hear an educated opinion on the legal details.

1KissAtATyme said:

Thank god, someone who wants all the facts before they make their mind up

darrenj said:

As I look on the web about this issue, it states that the author of the photography is the owner, not the subject.

The photo can be used for any non-commerical use - newsworthy - without permission of the subject.

Markland said:

It would be great if we could all cool down till everything is on the board and we can move forward from there.
I was angry yesturday when I first heard..but now I really want some answers. Hopefully Prince's response on the site today will make us have a clear view..and not fogged up like it currently is.

Rhondab said:

Hmm ..so that answers the paparazzi, bad celebrity pictures question

purplecam said:

I second that

1KissAtATyme said:

I think what also is happening is there's a long history of Prince vs the fans stuff going on. From Uptown to the collective nonsense, Prince seems to have this hate-hate relationship with the hard core fans.

Its just hard to look at this objectively with history.

Rhondab said:

Exactly and like I stated above, even if you take out the extreme stuff like the tatoos and license plates the request is still outlandish that we cannot post album covers or lyrics and discuss them and why does anybody owe Prince or these companies any money for doing just that? It's outrageous at best.....

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Oh hush.

2the9s said:

Are you employed by WebSherriff!?!!

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I wish! Dude's got it goin' on!

Rhondab said:

It really is.

And you know he's going to come out and say:

"Fams,

Our cre8or has blessed me with the gifts eye share with the world. Eye feel blessed 2 b able 2 do so. Eye only ask 4 the same respect u would show 2 ur friends and family, which is 2 use my image and art only with my permission. Eye am asking my fams 2 respect my wishes. It is meant in the spirit love4oneanother. All praise 2 the almighty Jehova.

Peace, Prince"


And his Fams are going to go, "aw, u know, he's right, it is just a matter of respect. we can talk about our love of his music without actually posting the lyrics. we know them all anyway! the h8ers should really go somewhere else. we love u, Prince! the check is in the mail. . ."


And the rest of us are going to go, "mutual respect doesn't generally involve lawyers ".

And then either the fansites will roll over, or shut down, or they will find the resources to fight him. And all of those options are lame.


And WHY are things in this state?


Because the man gots issues.


We all do, right? If we were only gonna love issue-free people, it would be a lonely world. People can have issues. People can express their issues. People can ask for help with their issues. All of that applies to Prince.

What I've had about enough of, though, is people who think it is their RIGHT to make their own pathology into everybody else's problem. Which is what Prince is doing. And I can feel all kinds of happy mushy stuff towards him and his music, but his behavior is ridiculous and we've got every right to say so.

And certainly the right to stand up for ourselves.

2the9s said: