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Reply #90 posted 11/07/07 7:04am

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Lothan said:

I find no joy in all of this. I have no loyalty to the Org even though I have made many, many friends here. At the end of the day, there is no free speech here either and to ask us to band together under some free speech umbrella is laughable to me.

you just said everything i wanted to say.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #91 posted 11/07/07 7:05am

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RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you.
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Reply #92 posted 11/07/07 7:05am

darrenj

Ellie said:

darrenj said:

If a webmaster used a site called -

Darrenj-has-a-small-cock.com

And used this site to post libelous remarks about me i'd be onto my lawyer quicker than you could say willystretcher !!!!!

neutral

You DO know that legally you'd have to prove that it isn't true as well, don't you? Remember when The Mirror had that story about Michael Jackson's hole in his nose? He sued, he sat in a room with a doctor and lawyers to have an examination and prove them wrong. He won. You wanna drop your pants in front of a room of lawyers? biggrin
[Edited 11/7/07 7:02am]


Mmmmm!! There could be a problem.
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Reply #93 posted 11/07/07 7:06am

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Janfriend said:

If You don't own the fans, the fans own you - Prince

Again, everybody sing along

My name is Prince
I am a prick
My name is Prince
With a little dick
I did not come to make no fans
Just buy my records and I'll take the cash
In the beginning, I needed thee
but in this decade, you're on your knees
Ya'll was tryin' to appreciate when you heard the sound
Sound like a letter cold gettin' down
I tried to take the high road but I might not last
My God I'm worried, ya'll kick my ass

My name is Prince
I am a prick
My name is Prince
With a little dick - hurt me

(Beat him, beat him, somebody)
(beat him, beat him, somebody)
Hurt me (beat him, beat him, somebody)
(Beat him, beat him, somebody)
(beat him, Beat him, somebody)
(beat him, beat him, somebody)
(beat him, beat him, somebody)
(BEAT HIM, BEAT HIM, somebody)

My name is Prince and I am on crack
When it comes to crack It is not wack
I think I'm righteous free from your sins
I had 2 wives but that had to end
Don't look me in the eye, cuz I just might lie
And tell you my shoes are not from hide
Without a pistol, without a gun
When u kick my ass you'll be havin' fun
That's when I gottcha that's when u mine
Now cease and desist before you die

My name is Prince I am a prick (You can't stop Prince)
My name is Prince with the little dick - hurt me (You can't stop Prince)

My name is Prince, and I wanna be king
Cuz Larry Graham's on top and it's just my dream
Pics with me and women and fancy clothes
Will make you smile, but it won't save your soul
I'm here to tell you that there's a better way
Would Jehovah be happy if He came 2 day?
I am sayin' I'm better, I'm better than u
If u want 2 play my music, u better learn the rules

Ouah! My name is Prince!


falloff I say we should make this the theme song of the org. lol

Prince is still very high on my shit list. I even said last night in the chat room that I hated him, which is something I have NEVER done. I never ever thought I would say this about someone whose music I've listened to for over 20 years. The shit has truly hit the fan.

Prince, you'd better sit your ass at home and not even think about touring unless you apologize to your fans for the shit you're doing to us. Why should we spend our hard-earned dollars on you when this is how you treat us? Truly dispicable and uncalled for. disbelief disbelief
RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you.
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Reply #94 posted 11/07/07 7:07am

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Lothan said:

darrenj said:

If I were to insult, disrespect, Make defamatory statements, consistantly, towards anyone on Prince.org, I would be kicked out.

And may even face criminal charges !!!!!

Free speech has it's limit's

neutral
[Edited 11/7/07 7:02am]
I never understood that, Darren. We can't flame each other but we can flame Prince to high hell.

But if you defend Prince or even try to see it from his angle, you will be flamed, tarred and feathered.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #95 posted 11/07/07 7:10am

gemini13

Janfriend said:

If You don't own the fans, the fans own you - Prince

Again, everybody sing along

My name is Prince
I am a prick
My name is Prince
With a little dick
I did not come to make no fans
Just buy my records and I'll take the cash
In the beginning, I needed thee
but in this decade, you're on your knees
Ya'll was tryin' to appreciate when you heard the sound
Sound like a letter cold gettin' down
I tried to take the high road but I might not last
My God I'm worried, ya'll kick my ass

My name is Prince
I am a prick
My name is Prince
With a little dick - hurt me

(Beat him, beat him, somebody)
(beat him, beat him, somebody)
Hurt me (beat him, beat him, somebody)
(Beat him, beat him, somebody)
(beat him, Beat him, somebody)
(beat him, beat him, somebody)
(beat him, beat him, somebody)
(BEAT HIM, BEAT HIM, somebody)

My name is Prince and I am on crack
When it comes to crack It is not wack
I think I'm righteous free from your sins
I had 2 wives but that had to end
Don't look me in the eye, cuz I just might lie
And tell you my shoes are not from hide
Without a pistol, without a gun
When u kick my ass you'll be havin' fun
That's when I gottcha that's when u mine
Now cease and desist before you die

My name is Prince I am a prick (You can't stop Prince)
My name is Prince with the little dick - hurt me (You can't stop Prince)

My name is Prince, and I wanna be king
Cuz Larry Graham's on top and it's just my dream
Pics with me and women and fancy clothes
Will make you smile, but it won't save your soul
I'm here to tell you that there's a better way
Would Jehovah be happy if He came 2 day?
I am sayin' I'm better, I'm better than u
If u want 2 play my music, u better learn the rules

Ouah! My name is Prince!


What the hell? Did he really say that at one time?

What a little prick. Oh, and hey Prince!?

It's not libel if it is believed to be true you ass.
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Reply #96 posted 11/07/07 7:10am

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What pisses me off is seeing people get pleasure out of this. That shit is sick. Im doing all I can not to cry over this and you got people wanting P to lose his career and burn. I think what he's doing sucks monkey ass but damn. I want justice but I'm not wishing ill will on him or anyone. That's just plain nasty.
[Edited 11/7/07 7:11am]
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #97 posted 11/07/07 7:11am

darrenj

Lothan said:

darrenj said:

If I were to insult, disrespect, Make defamatory statements, consistantly, towards anyone on Prince.org, I would be kicked out.

And may even face criminal charges !!!!!

Free speech has it's limit's

neutral
[Edited 11/7/07 7:02am]
I never understood that, Darren. We can't flame each other but we can flame Prince to high hell.




I thought Prince was part of the org, he has his name at the top.

Any insult that you direct at Prince you direct at me also.
[Edited 11/7/07 7:15am]
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Reply #98 posted 11/07/07 7:15am

gemini13

Flowerz said:

darrenj said:

By suggesting Prince has a small penis or maybe a virgina is very defamatory and libous.

These kinds of flipant remarks are highly damaging for Prince's business interests.

What if new fans belived he had a small penis, they probably would'nt buy his stuff or attend his concerts.


yeah.. now THAT .. right there..is defaming .. i dont know what thread that is.. but the lawyers will have a field day with that..

Yeah, but how would he prove that he had lost any money due to that comment? It would be impossible. Slippery slope.

I'm pissed. I don't think I've ever been this pissed at Prince. I am adamant about my right to free speech. He can fuck off and die.
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Reply #99 posted 11/07/07 7:17am

m3taverse

purplecam said:

Lothan said:

I never understood that, Darren. We can't flame each other but we can flame Prince to high hell.

But if you defend Prince or even try to see it from his angle, you will be flamed, tarred and feathered.


So can we flame each other, or can't we.
Make up your mind already.
"this especially prepared potato is called pomme de terre"
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Reply #100 posted 11/07/07 7:19am

PurpleCharm

purplecam said:

Lothan said:

I never understood that, Darren. We can't flame each other but we can flame Prince to high hell.

But if you defend Prince or even try to see it from his angle, you will be flamed, tarred and feathered.


And in regards to this matter, you don't even have to defend Prince, just being neutral about the latest happenings will cause the same results. It's like, if you're not pro-PFU, then you're pro-Prince and kissing his ass.
Didn't Bush say something similiar...if you're not down with America, you're for the Axis of Evil. lol rolleyes

I have no loyalty to Prince or prince.org.
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Reply #101 posted 11/07/07 7:21am

darrenj

gemini13 said:

Flowerz said:



yeah.. now THAT .. right there..is defaming .. i dont know what thread that is.. but the lawyers will have a field day with that..




He can fuck off and die.



Well Prince, another of your true fans has spoken.

You don't need them.


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Reply #102 posted 11/07/07 7:24am

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m3taverse said:

purplecam said:


But if you defend Prince or even try to see it from his angle, you will be flamed, tarred and feathered.


So can we flame each other, or can't we.
Make up your mind already.

From my point of view, it's selective. I've seen people be flamed for defending Prince but be defended for dogging him and vice versa. Basically what Im saying is there is no unity anywhere with this.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #103 posted 11/07/07 7:25am

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PurpleCharm said:[quote]

purplecam said:


But if you defend Prince or even try to see it from his angle, you will be flamed, tarred and feathered.


And in regards to this matter, you don't even have to defend Prince, just being neutral about the latest happenings will cause the same results. It's like, if you're not pro-PFU, then you're pro-Prince and kissing his ass.
Didn't Bush say something similiar...if you're not down with America, you're for the Axis of Evil. lol rolleyes

I have no loyalty to Prince or prince.org.[/quote]

That's pretty much where I am right now too.
[Edited 11/7/07 7:26am]
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #104 posted 11/07/07 7:33am

Lothan

purplecam said:

Lothan said:

I find no joy in all of this. I have no loyalty to the Org even though I have made many, many friends here. At the end of the day, there is no free speech here either and to ask us to band together under some free speech umbrella is laughable to me.

you just said everything i wanted to say.
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Reply #105 posted 11/07/07 7:35am

darrenj

gemini13 said:

Janfriend said:

If You don't own the fans, the fans own you - Prince

Again, everybody sing along

My name is Prince
I am a prick
My name is Prince
With a little dick
I did not come to make no fans
Just buy my records and I'll take the cash
In the beginning, I needed thee
but in this decade, you're on your knees
Ya'll was tryin' to appreciate when you heard the sound
Sound like a letter cold gettin' down
I tried to take the high road but I might not last
My God I'm worried, ya'll kick my ass

My name is Prince
I am a prick
My name is Prince
With a little dick - hurt me

(Beat him, beat him, somebody)
(beat him, beat him, somebody)
Hurt me (beat him, beat him, somebody)
(Beat him, beat him, somebody)
(beat him, Beat him, somebody)
(beat him, beat him, somebody)
(beat him, beat him, somebody)
(BEAT HIM, BEAT HIM, somebody)

My name is Prince and I am on crack
When it comes to crack It is not wack
I think I'm righteous free from your sins
I had 2 wives but that had to end
Don't look me in the eye, cuz I just might lie
And tell you my shoes are not from hide
Without a pistol, without a gun
When u kick my ass you'll be havin' fun
That's when I gottcha that's when u mine
Now cease and desist before you die

My name is Prince I am a prick (You can't stop Prince)
My name is Prince with the little dick - hurt me (You can't stop Prince)

My name is Prince, and I wanna be king
Cuz Larry Graham's on top and it's just my dream
Pics with me and women and fancy clothes
Will make you smile, but it won't save your soul
I'm here to tell you that there's a better way
Would Jehovah be happy if He came 2 day?
I am sayin' I'm better, I'm better than u
If u want 2 play my music, u better learn the rules

Ouah! My name is Prince!


What the hell? Did he really say that at one time?

What a little prick. Oh, and hey Prince!?

It's not libel if it is believed to be true you ass.



FUCKING sick!!!!!

Using his own music to attack him.
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Reply #106 posted 11/07/07 7:35am

gemini13

And for the record, in the car lastnight, going through the radio stations, I hear Delirious and Let's Go Crazy.

I changed stations so fast. I won't even listen to him now, let alone buy any of his crap.
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Reply #107 posted 11/07/07 7:37am

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gemini13 said:

And for the record, in the car lastnight, going through the radio stations, I hear Delirious and Let's Go Crazy.

I changed stations so fast. I won't even listen to him now, let alone buy any of his crap.


OMG, I feel the same way. I can't even look at him anymore without feeling totally repulsed. ill
RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you.
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Reply #108 posted 11/07/07 7:38am

Lothan

PurpleCharm said:

purplecam said:


But if you defend Prince or even try to see it from his angle, you will be flamed, tarred and feathered.


And in regards to this matter, you don't even have to defend Prince, just being neutral about the latest happenings will cause the same results. It's like, if you're not pro-PFU, then you're pro-Prince and kissing his ass.
Didn't Bush say something similiar...if you're not down with America, you're for the Axis of Evil. lol rolleyes

I have no loyalty to Prince or prince.org.
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Hello Purp. wave
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Reply #109 posted 11/07/07 7:41am

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darrenj said:

gemini13 said:





He can fuck off and die.



Well Prince, another of your true fans has spoken.

You don't need them.


sad



NOT all of us feel that way!!!

personally, i hope prince lives a good, long and happy life.
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Reply #110 posted 11/07/07 7:44am

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You know, I was just thinking about the Prince lyric from his song, "Still Would Stand All Time", where Prince sings:

No 1 man will b ruler
There4 love must rule us all

Prince, you need to practice what you preach. First you sing about not being ruled by any one person, and look at what you've done. disbelief You talk out of both sides of your mouth, the King of Contradiction. I guess it's a different story when it involves you and your music and/or image, huh, Prince?
RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you.
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Reply #111 posted 11/07/07 7:44am

darrenj

XxAxX said:

darrenj said:




Well Prince, another of your true fans has spoken.

You don't need them.


sad



NOT all of us feel that way!!!

personally, i hope prince lives a good, long and happy life.


I'm sure of that !


biggrin
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Reply #112 posted 11/07/07 7:45am

CarrieLee

EDD said:

Belgian TV is also picking this up
http://www.vrtnieuws.net/...1107Prince
[Edited 11/7/07 6:51am]



lol All I could read was "Prince" and "control freak"!!!
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Reply #113 posted 11/07/07 7:46am

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CarrieLee said:

EDD said:

Belgian TV is also picking this up
http://www.vrtnieuws.net/...1107Prince
[Edited 11/7/07 6:51am]



lol All I could read was "Prince" and "control freak"!!!


falloff Well those two words definitely go together. smile
RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you.
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Reply #114 posted 11/07/07 7:48am

Anxiety

Lothan said:

I find no joy in all of this. I have no loyalty to the Org even though I have made many, many friends here. At the end of the day, there is no free speech here either and to ask us to band together under some free speech umbrella is laughable to me.


I love you like family but I have to disagree with you. I know you have your fair share of complaints with moderation on this site, and we've had our discussions over the years about certain patterns and dysfunctions on this site. Sometimes I can agree, sometimes I can see your point, and sometimes I just don't get it. But to say that the forces that arguably may compromise free expression on the Org are the same as what Prince is doing to his fans right now is beyond my comprehension to understand. I have never felt like my livelihood could be threatened by posting my thoughts or sharing a picture.

That said, I have no interest or stake in "flaming" or flinging disrespect in Prince's direction. Like I said in part one of this thread, I am taking protest against his actions because I see bigger and more frightening free speech implications, and also because I have spent most of my life loving this man's art and I want him to understand what he's doing, or at least demand he tell us why this is necessary.

I'm not getting rid of anything. If I see a Prince something-or-other in the store and I want it, chances are I'll buy it (though I am struggling with the idea of boycotting with my wallet until this is resolved). When I hear a Prince song on my mp3 player, it's still a song I like hearing.

I can't judge Prince the person because I don't know him. I can judge the actions that have been presented in that they can affect me negatively and I don't think they're fair. That's what I'm dealing with. If Prince or his steadfast fans consider that an affront or a betrayal, that's for them to work out.

Meanwhile, while I can't guarantee the Org has airtight perfect moderation (what site does?), I can say from the depths of my heart that until now, I have *never* felt afraid to express myself here - and that goes for before I became a mod, and during the period recently when I stepped down from being a mod.

If anyone who really thinks the work I've done for this site is on the same repressive level as what Web Sherriff is currently doing to the fan sites, we need to have a serious talk.
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Reply #115 posted 11/07/07 7:48am

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imo this is getting way out of hand.

prince does NOT deserve to be lynched by an angry mob.

he is leading a fight against copyright infringement that will someday benefit artists everywhere.

none of us members know what is happening behind the scenes.

only prince's legal team and the website owners have this information.

please stop making mean-spirited personal attacks on prince.

he is still a person, just like me and you. not perfect, but not evil personified either.

can't we all just remain calm until things shake out???
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Reply #116 posted 11/07/07 7:51am

herb4

I was on a Philadelphia Eagles message board yesterday expressing my displeasure with the team's performance, their head coach's distraction(s) with family issues, the playcalling and openly suggested Donovan McNabb's was not fully healed. I said the team sucks this year and it's playing like shit, which is disheartening because I love them and have been a fan a long time. I've used their logo as an avatar on other boards. I've booed their performance at games when it was crappy.

...

Now, is THAT libel? Infringement? If they sent me a "cease and desist" order and threatened legal action (Sought DAMAGES even) for any of that, you think I'd consider that a slap in the face as a long-time fan? Think I'd be going to any more games or buying Eagles merchandise EVER?

Think they'd be a laughing stock?
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Reply #117 posted 11/07/07 7:53am

darrenj

XxAxX said:

imo this is getting way out of hand.

prince does NOT deserve to be lynched by an angry mob.

he is leading a fight against copyright infringement that will someday benefit artists everywhere.

none of us members know what is happening behind the scenes.

only prince's legal team and the website owners have this information.

please stop making mean-spirited personal attacks on prince.

he is still a person, just like me and you. not perfect, but not evil personified either.

can't we all just remain calm until things shake out???



Lynched by an angry mob.


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Reply #118 posted 11/07/07 8:01am

Anxiety

XxAxX said:

imo this is getting way out of hand.

prince does NOT deserve to be lynched by an angry mob.

he is leading a fight against copyright infringement that will someday benefit artists everywhere.

none of us members know what is happening behind the scenes.

only prince's legal team and the website owners have this information.

please stop making mean-spirited personal attacks on prince.

he is still a person, just like me and you. not perfect, but not evil personified either.

can't we all just remain calm until things shake out???


ok, but is there seriously not just a teeensy bit of your mind that is thinking "yeah, but the dude made his bed..."?

i think there are more productive methods of mediation than the path he's chosen to undertake.

but: this was his choice, and as we all know, our choices bear consequences.

maybe what i'm trying to say is that perhaps prince had a good idea of how people would react. maybe he doesn't care. or maybe he's sending out a deeper message.

all i know is, this was his choice. if it upsets people, he either has to find a way to pacify or to shrug it off.
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Reply #119 posted 11/07/07 8:14am

gemini13

darrenj said:

gemini13 said:





He can fuck off and die.



Well Prince, another of your true fans has spoken.

You don't need them.


sad



You get what you give. In the end, he's only a man. A misguided one at that.
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