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Thread started 10/10/07 1:16pm

gemini13

OK, one more time. Any punishment for excessive reporting of posts?

I've about had it.

There are a few here who report anything and everything I write, in a deliberate attempt to have me banned. I'm getting tired of it, because.....

I don't go out of my way to report every little thing I happen to dislike seeing here. And I think that there should be some sort of punishment for people who PURPOSELY report literally everything one person writes.

What about this? Answers people. Now! mad
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Reply #1 posted 10/10/07 1:59pm

PANDURITO

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I won't ask who, but that's pretty pathetic of them lol

I never reported anybody myself smile
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Reply #2 posted 10/10/07 2:01pm

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How do you know you've been reported? Do the mods tell you?
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Reply #3 posted 10/10/07 5:38pm

gemini13

I've been told I've had multiple reports this morning, and I know it's the same person.

Pretty pitiful and cowardly if you ask me.
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Reply #4 posted 10/10/07 5:38pm

gemini13

And almost five hours later, still no answer. hmmm
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Reply #5 posted 10/10/07 5:52pm

CHIC0

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gemini13 said:

I've about had it.

There are a few here who report anything and everything I write, in a deliberate attempt to have me banned. I'm getting tired of it, because.....

I don't go out of my way to report every little thing I happen to dislike seeing here. And I think that there should be some sort of punishment for people who PURPOSELY report literally everything one person writes.

What about this? Answers people. Now! mad



omfg


REPORTED!!! mad
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Reply #6 posted 10/10/07 6:08pm

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That's weird. sad
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Reply #7 posted 10/10/07 6:43pm

CarrieMpls

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We do warn and keep tabs on orgers who "abuse" the report to moderator button (i.e. repeatedly report things that are not against site rules). I don't know this specific situation, but we do watch that kind of thing. From a mod perspective (or at least my own), it's as bad as flagrantly breaking site rules.
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Reply #8 posted 10/10/07 8:39pm

June7

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CarrieMpls said:

We do warn and keep tabs on orgers who "abuse" the report to moderator button (i.e. repeatedly report things that are not against site rules). I don't know this specific situation, but we do watch that kind of thing. From a mod perspective (or at least my own), it's as bad as flagrantly breaking site rules.

I concur.

We have stated this on numerous occasions. We do not tolerate the malicious reporting of threads without cause. Actions have been taken against those who have done so.
[PRINCE 4EVER!]

[June7, "ModGod"]
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Reply #9 posted 10/11/07 2:40am

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How do you judge whether someone is justified in their reporting of posts considering that there is a reason prompt?
There's Joy In Expatriation.
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Reply #10 posted 10/11/07 5:08am

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JDInteractive said:

How do you judge whether someone is justified in their reporting of posts considering that there is a reason prompt?


Well, more often than not people are justified in reporting, even if we don't agree that a rule was "broken" and take the action the person reporting wishes. When it becomes abuse is when it is repeated, after we've explained a certain rule over and over, or when it is obvious they are reporting one other user because they have something against that person, not because that person is breaking rules.
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Reply #11 posted 10/11/07 5:36am

mdiver

gemini13 said:

I've been told I've had multiple reports this morning, and I know it's the same person.

Pretty pitiful and cowardly if you ask me.


nod there are some weak people here
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Reply #12 posted 10/11/07 6:08am

shanti0608

mdiver said:

gemini13 said:

I've been told I've had multiple reports this morning, and I know it's the same person.

Pretty pitiful and cowardly if you ask me.


nod there are some weak people here


I had no idea you could report someone and did not know how until you told me..

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I have only had to do it once.
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Reply #13 posted 10/11/07 6:13am

mdiver

shanti0608 said:

mdiver said:



nod there are some weak people here


I had no idea you could report someone and did not know how until you told me..

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I have only had to do it once.


There are alot of people here that if they dont like what you say they just report and then there are those of us that just let it go and are grown ups
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Reply #14 posted 10/11/07 6:21am

shanti0608

mdiver said:

shanti0608 said:



I had no idea you could report someone and did not know how until you told me..

giggle
I have only had to do it once.


There are alot of people here that if they dont like what you say they just report and then there are those of us that just let it go and are grown ups


I don't understand it really...unless someone gets involved in my personal life and causes a problem (or threatens harm to me) I see no reason to just ignore that person and move on but I guess there's a need for it for some ppl.
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Reply #15 posted 10/11/07 6:26am

JDInteractive

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CarrieMpls said:

JDInteractive said:

How do you judge whether someone is justified in their reporting of posts considering that there is a reason prompt?


Well, more often than not people are justified in reporting, even if we don't agree that a rule was "broken" and take the action the person reporting wishes. When it becomes abuse is when it is repeated, after we've explained a certain rule over and over, or when it is obvious they are reporting one other user because they have something against that person, not because that person is breaking rules.


Forgive my curiosity but in such circumstances, what is their excuse for reporting such a post, what action do you take against a repeat offender and have you ever deleted someone's account for such actions?
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Reply #16 posted 10/11/07 6:53am

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JDInteractive said:

CarrieMpls said:



Well, more often than not people are justified in reporting, even if we don't agree that a rule was "broken" and take the action the person reporting wishes. When it becomes abuse is when it is repeated, after we've explained a certain rule over and over, or when it is obvious they are reporting one other user because they have something against that person, not because that person is breaking rules.


Forgive my curiosity but in such circumstances, what is their excuse for reporting such a post, what action do you take against a repeat offender and have you ever deleted someone's account for such actions?


The "action" is the same as any other rule breaking. warning, "strikes" issued, temp ban, all the way up to a permanent banning if it continues. I don't know that anyone's been permanently banned for it before, but it's theoretically possible.

As for the excuse? It's usually someone who has something against someone else, or simply doesn't agree with the mod's assessment of the situation and keeps repeatedly reporting it anyway.
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Reply #17 posted 10/11/07 7:01am

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CarrieMpls said:

JDInteractive said:



Forgive my curiosity but in such circumstances, what is their excuse for reporting such a post, what action do you take against a repeat offender and have you ever deleted someone's account for such actions?


The "action" is the same as any other rule breaking. warning, "strikes" issued, temp ban, all the way up to a permanent banning if it continues. I don't know that anyone's been permanently banned for it before, but it's theoretically possible.

As for the excuse? It's usually someone who has something against someone else, or simply doesn't agree with the mod's assessment of the situation and keeps repeatedly reporting it anyway.


So their reason remains the same even though the post has been reviewed and action taken if necessary in the first case? Now that is pathetic.
There's Joy In Expatriation.
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Reply #18 posted 10/11/07 7:17am

Mach

June7 said:

CarrieMpls said:

We do warn and keep tabs on orgers who "abuse" the report to moderator button (i.e. repeatedly report things that are not against site rules). I don't know this specific situation, but we do watch that kind of thing. From a mod perspective (or at least my own), it's as bad as flagrantly breaking site rules.

I concur.

We have stated this on numerous occasions. We do not tolerate the malicious reporting of threads without cause. Actions have been taken against those who have done so.


thumbs up! I agree with you both

In my experience 9 out of 10 reports I deal with are justified
When I see that it leans more towards personal difference I point it out and ask orgers to not engage with others that bother them, most choose not to and then more drama unfolds. I usually will ask the other P&R mods to look at the threads and or share the personal orgnotes concernig the report with them so I have a more balanced opinion then just mine to base action on

peace!
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Reply #19 posted 10/11/07 7:37am

gemini13

I don't believe that I'm any more offensive than anyone else here. I mean, come on, I read just about everything in most forums, and I see some shit that should be reported, but I don't have the motivation or desire to do so. I am a strong supporter of free speech, and as long as I'm not threatening anyone with violence, or threatening in ANY way, I don't see why other people should be able to report my posts to push an agenda of theirs.
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Reply #20 posted 10/11/07 7:38am

gemini13

mdiver said:

gemini13 said:

I've been told I've had multiple reports this morning, and I know it's the same person.

Pretty pitiful and cowardly if you ask me.


nod there are some weak people here



I'd rather argue out in the open or through orgnotes than have someone covertly try to shut me up while they, at the same time, are just as offensive to me as I am to them.
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Reply #21 posted 10/11/07 7:48am

gemini13

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Reply #22 posted 10/11/07 7:51am

gemini13

GRRRR!

I guess I'm just not used to being so censored, never had a problem with it IRL. I don't understand how honest opinions are allowed to be scrutinized. Site rules be damned! If someone accuses me of being something I'm not, I will say something.
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Reply #23 posted 10/11/07 7:52am

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Mach said:

June7 said:


I concur.

We have stated this on numerous occasions. We do not tolerate the malicious reporting of threads without cause. Actions have been taken against those who have done so.


thumbs up! I agree with you both

In my experience 9 out of 10 reports I deal with are justified
When I see that it leans more towards personal difference I point it out and ask orgers to not engage with others that bother them, most choose not to and then more drama unfolds. I usually will ask the other P&R mods to look at the threads and or share the personal orgnotes concernig the report with them so I have a more balanced opinion then just mine to base action on

peace!


Agreed. It's rare. And even when I do get back to someone to state why I may disagree with something being against the rules more often than not I get back and "OK, thanks for looking into."
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Reply #24 posted 10/11/07 8:09am

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CarrieMpls said:

Mach said:



thumbs up! I agree with you both

In my experience 9 out of 10 reports I deal with are justified
When I see that it leans more towards personal difference I point it out and ask orgers to not engage with others that bother them, most choose not to and then more drama unfolds. I usually will ask the other P&R mods to look at the threads and or share the personal orgnotes concernig the report with them so I have a more balanced opinion then just mine to base action on

peace!


Agreed. It's rare. And even when I do get back to someone to state why I may disagree with something being against the rules more often than not I get back and "OK, thanks for looking into."


If only the same could be said for all the moderators.
There's Joy In Expatriation.
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Reply #25 posted 10/11/07 8:17am

gemini13

JDInteractive said:

CarrieMpls said:



Agreed. It's rare. And even when I do get back to someone to state why I may disagree with something being against the rules more often than not I get back and "OK, thanks for looking into."


If only the same could be said for all the moderators.



I think it would be truly fair if the moderators were not actual people, and everything was filtered through a machine, because there is bias when human beings are involved in interpretation.
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Reply #26 posted 10/11/07 8:24am

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gemini13 said:

JDInteractive said:



If only the same could be said for all the moderators.



I think it would be truly fair if the moderators were not actual people, and everything was filtered through a machine, because there is bias when human beings are involved in interpretation.


Oh no no! Machines are biased in favour of Prince.
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Reply #27 posted 10/11/07 8:25am

shanti0608

gemini13 said:

JDInteractive said:



If only the same could be said for all the moderators.



I think it would be truly fair if the moderators were not actual people, and everything was filtered through a machine, because there is bias when human beings are involved in interpretation.



omfg

They are actual ppl!!! well I knew the female ones were ..oh and Anx but the rest of them..I really did not know if they really existed or not.
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Reply #28 posted 10/11/07 8:34am

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Karla, in this case, you may want to take up with the mod in question. We're going over "what if" scenarios when it appears you have a question on specific mod decisions. When that's the case it's always best to go back to the source. You may not always be happy with the outcome, but it won't be resolved by talking theoretically on a thread in here. If you feel yuo were unjustly treated, you can always take up with Ben as well. Though most of the mods here will often bring other mods into the process for a second opinion if someone challenges them. I know Mach, Sweeny, sosgemini and I all have before (not to say others haven't, just that those are the ones I have experience with). We really do try to make sure we're being fair.
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Reply #29 posted 10/11/07 8:35am

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gemini13 said:

mdiver said:



nod there are some weak people here



I'd rather argue out in the open or through orgnotes than have someone covertly try to shut me up while they, at the same time, are just as offensive to me as I am to them.


And some would rather not engage, hence they use other measures to get someone to simply leave them alone. Not saying that's the case here, just that not everyone handles every situation the same way.
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