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Reply #30 posted 08/30/07 1:16am

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June7 said:

[This always happens around his birthday... however, moving to Site Discussion forum. - June7]


So do you think its healthy for the forum to have so much MJ crap all the time?
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Reply #31 posted 08/30/07 2:18am

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SquirrelMeat said:

June7 said:

[This always happens around his birthday... however, moving to Site Discussion forum. - June7]


So do you think its healthy for the forum to have so much MJ crap all the time?



What do you suggest?
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Reply #32 posted 08/30/07 4:49am

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luv4u said:

SquirrelMeat said:



So do you think its healthy for the forum to have so much MJ crap all the time?



What do you suggest?



I suggest what I suggested at the top of this thread. An MJ sticky. It would be nice if the MJ fanatics (and I say fanatics, because I'm a big MJ fan myself) could regulate themselves, but they obviously can't.

No matter how many notes you put at the top of the forum, they keep clogging it up. There are now some members who are only here to post on MJ threads! Doesn't that say something? The man hasn't made any music for 7 years! Theres a sign!

Its obvious from the two threads in here that people are fed up with the sheer volume of threads on subjects repeated over and over again.

You never answered whether you thought it was good or not to have all these MJ threads?

Are you saying that you can't think of a solution, so therefore the best thing is to just let it keep happening?!

PS: Other than the MJ threads, you guys do a brilliant job! biggrin
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Reply #33 posted 08/30/07 7:41am

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There should be one MJ sticky and one Madonna sticky.
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Reply #34 posted 08/30/07 8:07am

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having one sticky 4 all aspects of a certain child molester and drama queen would b more sufficient than 10 million threads clogging up space 4 those looking on information on other artists. Sort of like other p sites do.
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #35 posted 08/30/07 11:51am

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Lothan said:

There should be one MJ sticky and one Madonna sticky.



An MJ sticky and a Madonna sticky???

Then people will ask for a TTD sticky, a Mariah Carey sticky, Janet Jackson, and so forth and so on..... Then there will be people saying "well if they can have stickies why can't we"?
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Reply #36 posted 08/30/07 12:57pm

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luv4u said:

Lothan said:

There should be one MJ sticky and one Madonna sticky.



An MJ sticky and a Madonna sticky???

Then people will ask for a TTD sticky, a Mariah Carey sticky, Janet Jackson, and so forth and so on..... Then there will be people saying "well if they can have stickies why can't we"?


i c ur point, however there r more MJ and madonna threads than any of the ones u mentioned. janet could b looped in2 the mj thread or having a jacksons sticky that would cover every one of them
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #37 posted 08/30/07 1:38pm

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SquirrelMeat said:



I think one of the problems is that there seems to be a core group of MJ fans, that use this forum predominantely as a MJ discussion board, rather than a general music forum. The sheer volume of posts and threads pushes other threads off the top quite quicky and end up not being discussed.

The simple solution.....an MJ and JJ sticky. Quite a privilage on a general music forum!

I think The same thing applies to Madonna. Too many whimsical nonsensne threads about her stuff too.


Michael Jackson/Madonna/etc. threads do not skyrocket into the 200+ post range based on a few hardcore fans discussing. A lot of people just like to enter those threads and bitch about the thread and/or the fans. If no one BUT the hardcore fans posted, the threads would die a quick death. Ignoring them if you are not interested in the subject matter is the first step.

I think general artist stickies defeat the purpose of threads, which are supposed to have specific topics.

We always have Madonna album threads when a release date approaches, but that at least has a specific topic. If you had a general "Madonna" thread, there would be no theme or point in the discussion.


Again. Hear, hear!
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Reply #38 posted 08/30/07 2:31pm

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luv4u said:




What do you suggest?



I suggest what I suggested at the top of this thread. An MJ sticky.


It appears that you can’t win for losing. neutral

I could put up stickies for threads regarding MJ and Maddy (or any other much talked about artist), and that would please half of the people. The other half would string a rope around the nearest tree for which to hang me on while chanting “An MJ sticky on a Prince website! Blasphemy!” (it’s happened!)

Of course I’d have orgers chiming in on why I would do such a thing… then, of course, others would list reasons why I should or should not do things… get my drift?

In the past, when things like this happen, I have made an MJ sticky and redirected Orgers to it. For some it worked and for some it didn’t. Such is the way of the world here at the Org. I have come to this conclusion: You can’t fix what is not broken. You can make minor repairs, such as shutting down threads that get out of hand, or redirecting peeps from one thread to another thread already created, and locking up the dupe… etc. But even that is not a cure-all. And, in all honesty – it’s truly not “broken”…

So, then I leave it up to you… author of this thread (and the author of the other thread complaining about MJ threads)… in this twisted irony, you have, in fact, created another MJ thread! I know the subject matter is different, but we’re still talking about MJ or Maddy, or _____ (insert oft talked about artist here)!

In a perfect world I would suggest for people to read the title of the thread, decide if it’s what you’re interested in, and then decide to open that thread or not. I would suggest that people take a look on what’s being talked about in this forum and decide whether or not another thread is needed on this particular artist, or can the same thing be said in a thread already created – then make the big decision to create or post.

Another scenario: Believe it or not, we moderators do not look at every thread or post on this site. If there is flaming going on “for two days” or so, report it to us by using the “report to moderator” button at the bottom of each post… it then flags us to check out what’s going on! Not once has anyone done so in the thread that was brought to our attention (on the other MJ complaint thread…), your help is appreciated when you can.

So, what to do about the current situation at hand? We need to look at the topic. We need to look at the sincerity of the thread – was it created just to create another MJ thread or was it a genuine interest thread on the artist in question? A lot of the topics listed in this forum on MJ are different and are sincere – so, a different thread is excusable and allowed. Yes, there are other artists worthy of discussion, but I have found that Prince fans and Michael fans and Madonna fans tend to visit the same sites or have the same tastes, therefore you’re gonna see a lot of threads on these artists.

With that in mind, let’s try to be a little more open to these things… no need to get so angry or upset. We, as mods, make every attempt to handle things that appear to cause concern to the Orgers on this site. Don’t think we aren’t aware of the sudden influx of same artist threads – that’s why the statement on this very subject is up there (hell, I wrote it!). We have not died, nor fallen asleep… we are on it. We are taking action when required, or letting it be when it appears that there may not be any rules being violated.

I hope this helped… smile
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