ehuffnsd said:

so wrong...on soo many levels.

At one time there was a posting limit of about 50 a day.

At that time you could request a higher limit from ben directly.

He increased that to about 100 a day for everyone at one time and I believe he no longer extends a higher limit for anyone else, unless someone has an account that was already set that way from before. I could be wrong.

As for Ben nixing all alters at that time, I don't know. Maybe he did, I'm just not aware.

I'm just sayin' it seems a lot to manage for no real solid benefit I can see, is all.

sosgemini said:

If Ben said no alters period, it's not something I know about and it frankly could be quite difficult to manage. We'd be banning accounts left and right and for something I don't think is for the good of the community. At the least it would be a massive clean-up effort to begin with.

As for continuing to ban perma-banned orgers that pop back up, absolutely. We all should be adhering to that no matter what. I think the place where problems can come in is our tools to determine these things aren't always the best, and frankly aren't fool-proof. But if we know undoubtedly someone has made a new account we should take immediate action. By all means.

btw: didn't ben say no alt-accounts allowed, period?

CarrieMpls said:

i thought he said that when he upped the posting limit...but then folks started exceeding that so we mods got lax with the rule again...or maybe i dreamed all of this...by all means am i declaring with 100% certainty that he made the comment.

sosgemini said:

I don't think he "upped the posting limit" for everyone did he? There were some who had it first, no? Don't you have to "request" it via an email to ben?

Is the limit the same for everyone?

Treat users differently and expect them to follow arbitrary rules about alters?

Sounds like the Org!

sosgemini said:

no, i remember it as well... it was maybe 2 years ago?

cborgman said:

you remember too? im not going crazy.... well, just not on this subject.

cborgman said:

you remember too? im not going crazy.... well, just not on this subject.

I think alters are fine when they're funny.

Like Dans AB777 or PinkGirl.

Like, we all know its him and its in good fun.

I just get irritated when I am CONSTANTLY getting orgnotes from random names, adn I know they're alters....but I don't know whos and its annoying!

btw: didn't ben say no alt-accounts allowed, period?

and btw...mods, if you know that a banned orger has returned then it is your responsibility to immediately ban that person...if you don't i honestly think we as a group need to discuss ramifications for not following through...we have a strict zero tolerance policy and it's not fair to those who don't break rules nor to those who have been perma-banned to allow other's to return simply because of favoritism.

and one other thing...i think we mods need to really discuss the whole "what is a silly thread" debate...but i'm going to save that discussion for tomorrow. i've had a long day.

sosgemini said:

I could just kiss you for this.

BUT, as you know, there is favoritism here. I could name at least four Orgers that are reusers that everybody here knows have been permabanned and nothing has been done to those people. I started a thread about it here and a mod sent me a warning. I asked that same mod for an explanatio of the warning and was given none. I have even brought up the many org users to a mod in private and got no response on it. It is unfair to let some banned ones back and not others because of personal problems that mod has with that person or overlooking things because that person is a mod favorite.

And before anyone brings it up again: yes, I do realize this isn't a democracy and that I don't have to post here if I don't like it.

I really don't see what the big deal is with alter accounts personally.

I mean, how does anyone know that we're even being genuine with our primary accounts? There are creepy ass dudes on this site right now who troll married women, etc. for attention with their damned primary accounts under the guise sincerity and general caring. Their alter "ego" as they choose to present it are more damaging to this site than any of my alter "accounts".

I don't use my alters to troll so much as to exist with anonymity. When one of my alters starts a thread, folks can post on it with no predisposed opinions of who am or what they think of me. They simply engage in the discussion at hand for it's own sake.

Don't get me wrong--I love my friends, and love to fuck with my pissy enemies and shit, but an "imago" thread is sure to be jacked from the first 3 or 4 post responses, whereas an alter account's thread sometimes actually stays on track.


Plus some of my alters are abviously jokes...aka "EvilWhiteMules", etc.




hoe-to-how edit
[Edited 8/3/07 14:23pm]

Okay.

Now that I read through the thread. It would be cool to know who some of these mysterious alters are.

Like the one that wrote the song about me.

Saying I'm an alcoholic whos gonna burn my house down.

That was a hateful person, but I bet their "regular' account is someone who is nice 'to my face'.

TotalANXiousNESS said:

Who said that about you?

Lothan said:

I believe their name was 'tossedsalad'.

It was a crazy ass song, that you could tell that a lot of time was put into it.

It was a long time ago.

But I bet luv4u could dig it up, cause I orgnoted her about it when it happened. I was pretty upset about it, cause it had stuff about my kids in there.

It was last November actually.

TotalANXiousNESS said:

Whoever said that to you, deserves a kick in the nuts.

Alters - should there be a limit ? Yes, absolutely. Personally I'm for an unlimited number of posts as the bottom line, that would eliminate the need for alters in the first place.

Teacher said:

The post limits were imposed after a user seriously disrupted the site by "flooding" the forums. Similarly, we placed posting restrictions upon new accounts in response to the same user's practice of circumventing a ban by creating another account and immediately resuming the flood from the new account.

Perhaps a compromise would be to drop the post limits, but keep the new account restrictions? A user might be able to start a flood, but we'd be able to stop it very quickly.

Lothan said:

Yeah.
I took it a little more seriously than I probably should have at the time.
It was jsut the wrong day to fuck with me.