There seems to be in increase in this type of post on the org lately:

Don't post trolls/ads/spam/get-rich-quick schemes/other junk.
Don't make posts that are inflammatory just to get people riled up. Don't post useless off-topic stuff. Even if a silly, no-purpose post seems harmless and fun, don't be surprised if you get a warning and the message locked/deleted.

Posts asking about fighting ability, multiple posts about violent tendencies, posts designed to provoke anger, ect... I am avoiding quoting specific posts to protect the guilty. We had 1 attempt at a REALLY offensive user name, which has disappeared, now perhaps 2 new posters have replaced that user.

My question is: do you think this is a result of a new album announcement? The "offenders" are new to the site. Or perhaps they are former members that changed names to start posting the same stuff all over again.

Feel free to discuss your thoughts on their possible motivations here.

I feel it may be a result of simple human nature.

It seems trolling levels rise and fall on a consistant basis

There are always going to be trolls. The best way to deal with them is NOT to feed the troll. The troll thrives on the attention and/or upheavel it creates on any site including this community.

If you have a concern you can orgnote me.

If you see a troll in action just click on the Report to Moderator button.

Steadwood said:

don't worry dear. these folks do not understand the true beauty of trollhood. i mean, trollwood.

XxAxX said:

XxAxX said:

luv4u said:

Steadwood said:

um, when i re-read my post i see it can be taken a number of ways.. steadwood, the 'wood' part means like a surname, right?

excuse my ignorance but what exactly is a TROLL?I'm new here and i keep hearing people mention Trolls? what the hell is that? is it the lil monsters from the woods in the star wars movie? What?

Mars23 said:

XxAxX said:

mirrorbestfriend said:

I would agree there are a bunch right now, can we not just have a clearout? I will help!
There might be a few "friendly fire" casualties though

mirrorbestfriend said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...nternet%29

In Internet terminology, a troll is someone who intentionally posts derogatory or otherwise inflammatory messages about sensitive topics in an established online community such as an online discussion forum to bait users into responding. They may also plant images and data on networks that others may find disturbing (usually indirectly relating to the individual in person) in order to cause confrontation.



Oh...and those "monsters in the woods from the Star Wars movie" are Ewoks. Or Wookies, depending on which movie you're talking about.
[Edited 6/18/07 1:54am]

Nikster said:

ewoks r cute!
sorry i just learned how 2 post pics

Some people consider posters who aren't in the majority and post from their hearts (which happens to be unpopular) trolls. So, to some people, a troll is a conservative, a christian, a pro-lifer, a person not immobilized by political correctness, a person who stands up for traditional values...


Am I for banning my opposition? No.
I hope you're not either.

greenpixies said:

i'd also like to add folks who have a history of being critical to prince...i am so tired of this emoticon ( ) in the prince: music and more forum.

greenpixies said:

get off your high horse. you were called a troll for valid reasons you've yet to address, and the only other person i can think of in p&r who meets your categories IS a massive troll, hands down, regardless of political/religious affiliation. posting inflammatory remarks to purposely derail a thread, time and time again = troll.

evenstar3 said:

but on the flip side of that i've seen some major "bullying" and taunting by the left in the p&r forum...and worse its a collective effort and the end result is the same as some who are labeled "trolls".

OK, some clarification. You can be critical of Prince all you want, that's kinda the point of an internet forum, to come and bitch or come and talk about what you like. I also don't care if you are a person, I guess, free of the shackles of "political correctness". I really don't give a shit what your beliefs are. Here are some examples, completely hypothetical, of posts and/or exchanges I may be talking about:

Can Prince fight?
Men who release perfume are gay.
"You said something I don't like, so I point out your spelling sucks"
"No, your spelling sucks"
"No, YOUR spelling sucks"
Does Prince pay for the org because he has a big ego and pays to have it stoked?

Completely hypothetical, but you get the point. Now, I'm off to be politically correct and trash some family values. There have to be some gay dudes that want to get married around here...I'll have to check out that perfume post...

Mars23 said:

i see those threads and i think "silly". but then i look at half the crap on this site and think "silly". the big difference is that some folks want to have their silly fun but not let others.

evenstar3 said:

I don't know what you're talking about. It is never my intent to derail a thread. I'm always trying to use other analogies to make my point, which applies to given thread, more clear. Jesus used parables all the time. Was he a troll?

sosgemini said:

I agree.

sosgemini said:

Yea, I don't mind the silly fun, but it is annoying to have to wade through a bunch of crap to get to the crap I consider fun. My main point in posting this was to try to open some eyes of the people who are getting baited. If they realize that these folks want them to respond and get angry, they can refrain and the insult wars go away. Then I can get right to the posts about Prince's socks without wading through 3 pages of personal attacks.

If your silly fun is actually coming here and bating folks into a virtual slap fight, well then I guess I don't want you to have your silly fun.
[Edited 6/19/07 9:27am]

greenpixies said:

No he wasn't of course, but I and many more with me, consider people who CONSTANTLY have to refer to Jesus doing this or that as some kind of measurement nothing more than windpipes, at best. At worst they're trolls cos they KNOW it riles people up. If you can't discuss issues without dragging Jesus into it you don't have anything to hang your hat on.

Just for the record, I hate our internet terminology. Leet speak, trolls, spam and such.It just sounds childish. If I had my way I would just call them douchebags and be done with it. I only used the term troll, so we were working with a common denominator.

sosgemini said:

I'm sorry but I don't agree. There is trolling in P&R and I tihnk that what you consider to be coolective is a bunch of people who also think certain others are trolls. I am not a overly religious person nor a pro-lifer and I don't want to have my beliefs shit on just like they don't. My opinion is that it seems to be tolerated for some reason while we heathens have to respect someone's religion.

Lothan said:

Oh yeah, cos you know, people with religion are, like, SOOOO much better than we are...

Teacher said:

Exactly!!!

To be perfectly honest, I see mods sticking up moreso for the religious ones than the non-religious ones.

here's what i think is hard for folks to understand though (in regards to religious speech).

you can say:

"my religion teaches me that homosexuals will burn in hell for their sins".

well, you can post that...but you can't post:

"you are going to hell because *you* are gay".



now, let me remind folks that i don't moderate the p&r forum and haven't all year however based one my own experience that was always a frustrating balancing act for folks to understand. the org is just like the real world and there are views that while we might not agree with (or in some cases we hate) but we still have to tolerate.

i honestly thing we go too far sometimes in what we expect of this sites moderation...