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Thread started 04/03/07 5:07am

Mach

Expanding on forum/sight rules

I was reading some info shared with me by a fellow mod about "Trolls" and baiting ...

I am wondering if it would be a good idea to state in the sight rules in a clearer fashion what trolls and baiting and all those good little terms we use mean.

So that users know clearer what they are and so that mods can point offenders to the exact deffinition of the rule they broke when we issue strikes or bans.

Not just a random opinion from a mod but a unified "rule" we go by that is there for each member to access.

Ideas ? Thoughts ?
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Reply #1 posted 04/03/07 7:18am

cborgman

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excellent idea. i am always for clearer rules.
Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton
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Reply #2 posted 04/03/07 8:40am

Mach

Well

I was made aware again just now of how some orgers simply do not know or understand what trolling and baiting means.

This can't just be happening in the P&R forum ...
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Reply #3 posted 04/03/07 9:53am

cborgman

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in the meantime, could you give us a good definition?

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Reply #4 posted 04/03/07 10:00am

Mach

cborgman said:

in the meantime, could you give us a good definition?

smile


bitchfight

I'm studying on it

lol
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Reply #5 posted 04/03/07 10:02am

cborgman

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Mach said:

cborgman said:

in the meantime, could you give us a good definition?

smile


bitchfight

I'm studying on it

lol


i got asked by a few via orgnote, and didn't want my personal definitions informing the mass.

thanks
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Reply #6 posted 04/03/07 10:05am

Mach

cborgman said:

Mach said:



bitchfight

I'm studying on it

lol


i got asked by a few via orgnote, and didn't want my personal definitions informing the mass.

thanks


That's what I mean by "Not just a random opinion from a mod but a unified "rule" we go by that is there for each member to access."
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Reply #7 posted 04/03/07 10:11am

cborgman

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Mach said:

cborgman said:



i got asked by a few via orgnote, and didn't want my personal definitions informing the mass.

thanks


That's what I mean by "Not just a random opinion from a mod but a unified "rule" we go by that is there for each member to access."


i know, but in the meantime untill we get a unified rule.... no? it's okay, i don't want to be in that position either.
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Reply #8 posted 04/03/07 2:41pm

xplnyrslf

Mach said:

I was reading some info shared with me by a fellow mod about "Trolls" and baiting ...

I am wondering if it would be a good idea to state in the sight rules in a clearer fashion what trolls and baiting and all those good little terms we use mean.

So that users know clearer what they are and so that mods can point offenders to the exact deffinition of the rule they broke when we issue strikes or bans.

Not just a random opinion from a mod but a unified "rule" we go by that is there for each member to access.

Ideas ? Thoughts ?



I think ALL slang should be defined. Since the site has an international community the meanings may not be clear. Cultures vary.
Plus for older orgers such as myself the words aren't something one can look up in a dictionary.
One orger was accused of "baiting" in a forum and I didn't see it that way. Again, intent is what needs to be looked at, along with the context.
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Reply #9 posted 04/06/07 4:03am

ZombieKitten



http://en.wikipedia.org/w...rnet_troll

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flaming

A baiter is someone in an Internet dicsussion group who deliberately posts aggravating messages on a message board. Often, this is part of a previous conflict between the baiter and the baiter's intended target.
Baiters are different from Flamers because they do not directly insult their target; instead, they post something likely to aggravate him/her.
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Reply #10 posted 04/06/07 3:42pm

fathermcmeekle

Run, Steadwood, run!!!

omfg
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Reply #11 posted 04/07/07 4:38am

XxAxX

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Mach said:

I was reading some info shared with me by a fellow mod about "Trolls" and baiting ...

I am wondering if it would be a good idea to state in the sight rules in a clearer fashion what trolls and baiting and all those good little terms we use mean.

So that users know clearer what they are and so that mods can point offenders to the exact deffinition of the rule they broke when we issue strikes or bans.

Not just a random opinion from a mod but a unified "rule" we go by that is there for each member to access.

Ideas ? Thoughts ?



poor Steadwood! anyway i see no reason why the ORG's rules should single out one fairy tale creature over another. plus, i think trolls eat treacle and not bait. shrug just my 2c
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Reply #12 posted 04/07/07 6:10am

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i also am going to request clarification on the homophobia/racist portion of the rules.

as it stands right now, i have had to repeatedly endure seeing myself and other gay folk on the org told we are no different than murderers, pedophiles, and rapists, and it is starting to get really annoying. i understand that the fundamentalists want to voice their opinion, and they should be free to do such, but this gay = murder, rape, and child molestation thing is extremely false and extremely offensive. several of them are actually doing it to intentionally cause a reaction.

the rules state:
"Do not post racist or 'hateful' material.
This means no racist/homophobic comments, period. Discussions of racism itself in the proper forum are OK. Making hateful comments, directed at a person or group, may get your account immediately suspended. We are extremely serious about this. prince.org is not a place for racial bigotry or hateful speech.


please advise.
[Edited 4/7/07 6:31am]
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Reply #13 posted 04/07/07 6:16am

Steadwood

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fathermcmeekle said:

Run, Steadwood, run!!!

omfg



omfg headlp doody




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Reply #14 posted 04/07/07 6:27am

Steadwood

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XxAxX said:

Mach said:

I was reading some info shared with me by a fellow mod about "Trolls" and baiting ...

I am wondering if it would be a good idea to state in the sight rules in a clearer fashion what trolls and baiting and all those good little terms we use mean.

So that users know clearer what they are and so that mods can point offenders to the exact deffinition of the rule they broke when we issue strikes or bans.

Not just a random opinion from a mod but a unified "rule" we go by that is there for each member to access.

Ideas ? Thoughts ?



poor Steadwood! anyway i see no reason why the ORG's rules should single out one fairy tale creature over another. plus, i think trolls eat treacle and not bait. shrug just my 2c



This may call for the formation of the Trolls In Trouble Society (TITS)

Or even a Treacle Strike omfg hmph! omg



smile
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Reply #15 posted 04/07/07 8:06pm

XxAxX

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Steadwood said:

XxAxX said:




poor Steadwood! anyway i see no reason why the ORG's rules should single out one fairy tale creature over another. plus, i think trolls eat treacle and not bait. shrug just my 2c



This may call for the formation of the Trolls In Trouble Society (TITS)

Or even a Treacle Strike omfg hmph! omg

smile

and the formation of an Association to Sort the Site or A.S.S. giggle
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Reply #16 posted 04/07/07 10:53pm

evenstar3

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cborgman said:

i also am going to request clarification on the homophobia/racist portion of the rules.

as it stands right now, i have had to repeatedly endure seeing myself and other gay folk on the org told we are no different than murderers, pedophiles, and rapists, and it is starting to get really annoying. i understand that the fundamentalists want to voice their opinion, and they should be free to do such, but this gay = murder, rape, and child molestation thing is extremely false and extremely offensive. several of them are actually doing it to intentionally cause a reaction.

the rules state:
"Do not post racist or 'hateful' material.
This means no racist/homophobic comments, period. Discussions of racism itself in the proper forum are OK. Making hateful comments, directed at a person or group, may get your account immediately suspended. We are extremely serious about this. prince.org is not a place for racial bigotry or hateful speech.


please advise.
[Edited 4/7/07 6:31am]


i absolutely agree. that behavior is rampant, mostly intended to be bait, and detracts from discussion. IMO, it shouldn't be allowed.
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Reply #17 posted 04/08/07 11:20am

Steadwood

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XxAxX said:

Steadwood said:




This may call for the formation of the Trolls In Trouble Society (TITS)

Or even a Treacle Strike omfg hmph! omg

smile

and the formation of an Association to Sort the Site or A.S.S. giggle


giggle


Also the formation of "Support Org Discipline and independant Trolls" or "SOD IT" doh!



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Reply #18 posted 04/10/07 12:49am

fathermcmeekle

Steadwood said:

XxAxX said:


and the formation of an Association to Sort the Site or A.S.S. giggle


giggle


Also the formation of "Support Org Discipline and independant Trolls" or "SOD IT" doh!



smile

How about "The League to Improve Prince.Org Website". Or LIPOW!

smile
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Reply #19 posted 04/10/07 12:50am

fathermcmeekle

fathermcmeekle said:

Steadwood said:



giggle


Also the formation of "Support Org Discipline and independant Trolls" or "SOD IT" doh!



smile

How about "The League to Improve Prince.Org Website". Or LIPOW!

smile

confused
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Reply #20 posted 04/10/07 1:37pm

XxAxX

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fathermcmeekle said:

fathermcmeekle said:


How about "The League to Improve Prince.Org Website". Or LIPOW!

smile

confused


comfort i think it is a perfectly grand idea!
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Reply #21 posted 04/10/07 5:43pm

xplnyrslf

ZombieKitten said:



http://en.wikipedia.org/w...rnet_troll

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flaming

A baiter is someone in an Internet dicsussion group who deliberately posts aggravating messages on a message board. Often, this is part of a previous conflict between the baiter and the baiter's intended target.
Baiters are different from Flamers because they do not directly insult their target; instead, they post something likely to aggravate him/her.



I've been using a Webster's from the 1970's.....time to retire it.
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Reply #22 posted 04/11/07 1:38pm

Steadwood

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fathermcmeekle said:

fathermcmeekle said:


How about "The League to Improve Prince.Org Website". Or LIPOW!

smile

confused


hmm

Not Bad....

You could even have the "Supreme League to Improve Prince.Org Website Trust" or SLIPOWT hmm



smile



hmmm edit...rolleyes clapping
[Edited 4/11/07 13:39pm]
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