you know, the ones you agreed to to join up !

I am being made more and more aware of how many orgers really did not read nor understand them and perhaps think they are above them.

Have you read the rules ?

Do you understand them ?

Do you feel they do or do not apply to you as a member of this sight ?

I apologize for making my disagreements with other orgers public.

I agree, the org rules! Housequake sucks!

OK, I'll bite.

Where is the line between pointing out someone's mistake and flaming?

It seems that I can't say anything in discussion without the thread being removed.

How far is the reach of freedom of expression here?

i know them well. it's how i am able to do a lot of what i do in p&r and why i have never been banned or even given the week long ban.

gemini13 said:

the basic thing that will protect you is NEVER call a person a name. you can say they are behaving like a moron, or the idea is moronic, but NEVER call them a moron.

another good tip is never lose your cool. the calmer you are, the more what you type reflects it. the more pissed off you are, the more it is reflected in what you type, and the more everyone, and in particular the mods, will notice.

cborgman said:

So, why do people who lose their cool get to stay?

Stymie said:

fathermcmeekle said:

Where is the line between pointing out someone's mistake and flaming?

Perhaps in the words typed and the intentions behind then ...then in each mods perception of the post



How far is the reach of freedom of expression here?

I am not sure, what is your perception on that ?

gemini13 said:

a lot of times it is because no one reports it. the mods, wisely, in general don't mod unless they see a big problem or unless someone reports it.

I understand the rules very well... unfortunately, one of the ones not stated is that once a certain mod has it out for you, you're cooked. You can no longer debate even following the rules, cos this is not a democracy and according to the rules, it's not allowed to discuss one mods decision with another even though that second mod might be impartial. That's the most important rule

But yes, I actually read them when I signed up

cborgman said:

What if someone is in the practice of censoring people with excessive reporting?

gemini13 said:

i don't know enough about the situation to say, and for the most part, i am of the habit of trusting the mods' opinions, with a very few examples otherwise.

sorry

gemini13 said:

how so? if what you are posting isn't in violation of any rule then it doesnt get removed.

sosgemini said:

There is a certain orger who continually reports people they don't like. If it is left to the perception of mods, I think that's a slippery slope. If it really is based on the rules themselves, then the person reporting is just as guilty of violating the rules. Sometimes I just don't have the time to report every little violation I see, and evidently, this other person does.

Mach said:

I've read the rules.
I believe I understand them.
They apply to everyone who logs on as a member.
I keep a copy in my desk drawer.

cborgman said:

I once suggested someone pick up a dictionary and find another way of expressing himself.....it got snipped. I didn't like the name calling going on at the time. I wasn't even involved in the conflict. I can laugh about it now.

gemini13 said:

That's a pretty broad statement.

In many circumstances, I've warned an orger about over reporting others... we have to weed them out, though.

First, second time... well, you've got to look at the situation and make a decision. Third or fourth time... you need to realize this orger is starting shit out of nothing.

I've warned said orger of doing so, and will not hesitate to ban for that. It's a violation of the rules too. Report to Moderator - should only be used seriously - not just to get back at someone. That action will soon backfire.

Good thread, though. Keep it up. We can only help you if you help us help you. Did that make sense?

June7 said:

This seems to be a common thing for some P&R people to do... I am now sending out firmer warnings and adding comments onto their mod profiles when I have to warn them so that it is noted for all mods to see. With a few constant complaint people I think they now see that I am serious and this isnt a playplace...that the things they complain to me about I look at seriously and if I notice they are over reacting I let them know that I will add a comment onto their mod profile as well if they keep up with the " complain game "

yes you made sense

June7 said:

Makes excellent sense!!!

Mach said:

http://www.prince.org/msg/5/221926

Adisa said:

what does a thread on 777-9311 have to do with anything?

fathermcmeekle said:

I'm guessing U didn't read the rules

Adisa said:

Yes ?

Oh Hey Mach.

I guess this is brought on by our conversation.

I never read stuff about a site when I agree to it.

I'm sure a lot of ppl don't.

SureThing said:

Not really



and I am certian many people dont read them !

Mach said:

Reading documents, terms and conditions:
It's one of the best habits one can develope, especially early in life.
No matter how simple or irrelevant you need to know what you're agreeing to, and how it affects you.
I've already mentioned the co-worker who signed a quit claim on her and her husband's house, not understanding what it meant.

xplnyrslf said:

[lawyer]



[/lawyer]

matt said:

When they moved from back East, they sold their home and paid cash for the current one. Somewhere along the line, with signing documents, she signed the quit claim. She left him (after 25 years of marriage) and found out their home now valued at $600,000, belonged to her husband.
She hired a $300/hr attorney who spent the hour telling her what an idiot she was.(a little slow on the uptake)

I know pages of reading material is a pain in the butt. Before agreeing or signing anything, it's in your best interest to understand it. Not just on this site, but all endeavors.
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