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Thread started 02/16/07 12:24pm

madartista

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Rename Politics & Religion?

The Politics & Religion forum now seems to hold all discussion of a social nature -- well outside of the scope of only politics & religion -- perhaps it should be renamed to reflect the breadth of what takes place there?
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Reply #1 posted 02/16/07 8:04pm

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Reply #2 posted 02/16/07 8:39pm

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I nominate it be called by an emoticon best representing the forum:

I nominate.... pooptoast


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Reply #3 posted 02/17/07 12:25am

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June7 said:

I nominate it be called by an emoticon best representing the forum:

I nominate.... pooptoast


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Reply #4 posted 02/17/07 8:45am

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Reply #5 posted 02/17/07 8:48am

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madartista said:

The Politics & Religion forum now seems to hold all discussion of a social nature -- well outside of the scope of only politics & religion -- perhaps it should be renamed to reflect the breadth of what takes place there?



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Reply #6 posted 02/17/07 8:51am

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Bad Gateway....what's that about??

Great idea. "Politics, Religion, and Social Issues"
One orger posted lengthy info on a women's topic, and someone questioned why it was there. If it were in GD no one would have read it as the attention span is shorter. The member must've returned from a conference because the post had the most recent data on the subject. I was one of the few who read the whole thing and posted a question about topic.
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Reply #7 posted 02/17/07 9:26am

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xplnyrslf said:


One orger posted lengthy info on a women's topic, and someone questioned why it was there. If it were in GD no one would have read it as the attention span is shorter.



I agree..if you want a serious discussion about science or social matters p&r is the way to go...

and i know its all in fun but it really does irk me that folks make fun of the p&r forum...there are folks who post exclusively within that forum and enjoy it immensely. just cause you don't like it doesn't mean it's not without merit.
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Reply #8 posted 02/17/07 10:05am

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xplnyrslf said:


One orger posted lengthy info on a women's topic, and someone questioned why it was there. If it were in GD no one would have read it as the attention span is shorter.



I agree..if you want a serious discussion about science or social matters p&r is the way to go...

and i know its all in fun but it really does irk me that folks make fun of the p&r forum...there are folks who post exclusively within that forum and enjoy it immensely. just cause you don't like it doesn't mean it's not without merit.


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What about calling it "Politics, Religion, and More"!

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Or seriously, Politics Religions and Society?

Or Politics Religion and Culture?

I actually think it's okay the way it is though. shrug
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Reply #9 posted 02/17/07 3:40pm

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Oh oh oh!!! The Intellectual Experience...


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sosgemini said:

Oh oh oh!!! The Intellectual Experience...


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It does seem a bit of a dumping ground for 'controversial topics' sometimes, though.
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Reply #11 posted 02/18/07 1:12am

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`Big Posts`.

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Reply #12 posted 02/18/07 11:21am

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i think it should remain the same because it's funny to see 'politics and religion' right out there, two socially rude topics of discussion
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Reply #13 posted 02/18/07 2:25pm

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The "Advanced Bitching and Moaning because the World is a Complicated Place and It Makes me so Uncomfortable" forum?

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Reply #14 posted 02/19/07 10:56pm

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I say we call it The "Stomp and Scream About Things We Really Don't Know Anything About Or We'd Be Discussing Them At Politics And Religion Sites" Forum.
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Reply #15 posted 02/20/07 12:45am

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What about something simple like "Social Issues"?
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Reply #16 posted 02/20/07 6:55am

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sosgemini said:

xplnyrslf said:


One orger posted lengthy info on a women's topic, and someone questioned why it was there. If it were in GD no one would have read it as the attention span is shorter.



I agree..if you want a serious discussion about science or social matters p&r is the way to go...

and i know its all in fun but it really does irk me that folks make fun of the p&r forum...there are folks who post exclusively within that forum and enjoy it immensely. just cause you don't like it doesn't mean it's not without merit.


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Reply #17 posted 02/22/07 11:34am

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sosgemini said:

xplnyrslf said:


One orger posted lengthy info on a women's topic, and someone questioned why it was there. If it were in GD no one would have read it as the attention span is shorter.



I agree..if you want a serious discussion about science or social matters p&r is the way to go...

and i know its all in fun but it really does irk me that folks make fun of the p&r forum...there are folks who post exclusively within that forum and enjoy it immensely. just cause you don't like it doesn't mean it's not without merit.

They are just jealous we are having more fun then they do. They only pretend but are bored as hell, which is obvious. smile
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Reply #18 posted 02/22/07 11:36am

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sosgemini said:




I agree..if you want a serious discussion about science or social matters p&r is the way to go...

and i know its all in fun but it really does irk me that folks make fun of the p&r forum...there are folks who post exclusively within that forum and enjoy it immensely. just cause you don't like it doesn't mean it's not without merit.


Cosign.

What about calling it "Politics, Religion, and More"!

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Or seriously, Politics Religions and Society?

Or Politics Religion and Culture?

I actually think it's okay the way it is though. shrug

Agreed.

"Social issues" wouldn't add or cover anything else, because politics and religion are social issues.
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Abrazo said:

Agreed.

"Social issues" wouldn't add or cover anything else, because politics and religion are social issues.


So you think that every topic related to society falls into only those two categories?
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Reply #20 posted 02/22/07 1:32pm

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Abrazo said:

Agreed.

"Social issues" wouldn't add or cover anything else, because politics and religion are social issues.


So you think that every topic related to society falls into only those two categories?

No, these two both fall in to "social issue"

so if its so necessary to rename it

name it like that

but since that sounds pretty ...

well... never mind smile


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Reply #21 posted 02/22/07 6:35pm

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sosgemini said:

xplnyrslf said:


One orger posted lengthy info on a women's topic, and someone questioned why it was there. If it were in GD no one would have read it as the attention span is shorter.



I agree..if you want a serious discussion about science or social matters p&r is the way to go...

and i know its all in fun but it really does irk me that folks make fun of the p&r forum...there are folks who post exclusively within that forum and enjoy it immensely. just cause you don't like it doesn't mean it's not without merit.




Q: then why are they here and not at a website devoted to those topics?



A: because if they went to a site dedicated to such conversations, they and their feeble, unfounded, unresearched opinions would get laughed off the internet. it's easy to talk big and bad about shit you don't know anything about at a place where no one else knows anything about it either.
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Reply #22 posted 02/23/07 10:48am

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KidOmega said:

sosgemini said:




I agree..if you want a serious discussion about science or social matters p&r is the way to go...

and i know its all in fun but it really does irk me that folks make fun of the p&r forum...there are folks who post exclusively within that forum and enjoy it immensely. just cause you don't like it doesn't mean it's not without merit.




Q: then why are they here and not at a website devoted to those topics?



A: because if they went to a site dedicated to such conversations, they and their feeble, unfounded, unresearched opinions would get laughed off the internet. it's easy to talk big and bad about shit you don't know anything about at a place where no one else knows anything about it either.


i don't think i've seen you in that forum, KidOmega. whose alter ego are you? smile
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Reply #23 posted 02/26/07 2:01am

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KidOmega said:

sosgemini said:




I agree..if you want a serious discussion about science or social matters p&r is the way to go...

and i know its all in fun but it really does irk me that folks make fun of the p&r forum...there are folks who post exclusively within that forum and enjoy it immensely. just cause you don't like it doesn't mean it's not without merit.




Q: then why are they here and not at a website devoted to those topics?



A: because if they went to a site dedicated to such conversations, they and their feeble, unfounded, unresearched opinions would get laughed off the internet. it's easy to talk big and bad about shit you don't know anything about at a place where no one else knows anything about it either.



You CANNOT lump everyone who posts there into the same catergory. MANY posters DO actually research their information before posting and DO know what they are talking about, there are only a small group that don't. Although some do like to pick things apart and don't like to follow the rules as posted for them to read, it is a very interesting area on this web site.[/b]
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Reply #24 posted 02/26/07 8:44pm

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Abrazo said:

2the9s said:



Cosign.

What about calling it "Politics, Religion, and More"!

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Or seriously, Politics Religions and Society?

Or Politics Religion and Culture?

I actually think it's okay the way it is though. shrug

Agreed.

"Social issues" wouldn't add or cover anything else, because politics and religion are social issues.


The lengthy info I read was a social issue, and not included in "Politics or Religion" topics. It was current info on women's income, education, etc. Another orger questioned why it was in the forum.
If you throw in culture: the foodies, interior design, life styles of the rich and famous, antiques, art, archeology, what's the royalty up to now.....would take over.
It has to maintain a serious note and atmosphere.
"and Society" would include the article I read without adding frivolousness.
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Reply #25 posted 02/27/07 8:33am

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So, you want to say that only P&R can have serious discussion and GD can only have light-natured fun?

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As I stated somewhere else, there's room for both in every forum. I understand there's a certain 'vibe' that happens in each forum based on who regularly posts, but then you're also dividing forums not just by topic, but by who posts and the manner in which you want people to respond to them. If someone in GD posted a thread asking people to post, say, Bush jokes and wanted it kept in GD it wouldn't fly. Why should we leave topics that have little to do with politics or religion but happen to be of a serious nature in P&R? I understand there can be grey area in any topic, but if you're going to start dividing threads into forums based on the kind of discourse you want on it, that doesn't just doesn't sound realistic to me. A good thread creater can outline and shape the discussion they wish to have.

I'd like to leave everything that isn't P&R out of P&R.

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CarrieMpls said:

So, you want to say that only P&R can have serious discussion and GD can only have light-natured fun?

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As I stated somewhere else, there's room for both in every forum. I understand there's a certain 'vibe' that happens in each forum based on who regularly posts, but then you're also dividing forums not just by topic, but by who posts and the manner in which you want people to respond to them. If someone in GD posted a thread asking people to post, say, Bush jokes and wanted it kept in GD it wouldn't fly. Why should we leave topics that have little to do with politics or religion but happen to be of a serious nature in P&R? I understand there can be grey area in any topic, but if you're going to start dividing threads into forums based on the kind of discourse you want on it, that doesn't just doesn't sound realistic to me. A good thread creater can outline and shape the discussion they wish to have.

I'd like to leave everything that isn't P&R out of P&R.

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actually, i totally agree with this. i don't know when or where the crossover happened that all serious discussion got sent to P&R. my preference is that P&R stay relevant to P&R, and other conversation outside of that realm stay in GD. but if the pattern remains that ALL social and/or serious issues get sent to P&R, then the forum should be re-named to reflect what it does house.

which in turn would also change GD to "General Silliness", or "Nonsense, but not so much as to be Locked".
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madartista said:

CarrieMpls said:

So, you want to say that only P&R can have serious discussion and GD can only have light-natured fun?

confused

As I stated somewhere else, there's room for both in every forum. I understand there's a certain 'vibe' that happens in each forum based on who regularly posts, but then you're also dividing forums not just by topic, but by who posts and the manner in which you want people to respond to them. If someone in GD posted a thread asking people to post, say, Bush jokes and wanted it kept in GD it wouldn't fly. Why should we leave topics that have little to do with politics or religion but happen to be of a serious nature in P&R? I understand there can be grey area in any topic, but if you're going to start dividing threads into forums based on the kind of discourse you want on it, that doesn't just doesn't sound realistic to me. A good thread creater can outline and shape the discussion they wish to have.

I'd like to leave everything that isn't P&R out of P&R.

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actually, i totally agree with this. i don't know when or where the crossover happened that all serious discussion got sent to P&R. my preference is that P&R stay relevant to P&R, and other conversation outside of that realm stay in GD. but if the pattern remains that ALL social and/or serious issues get sent to P&R, then the forum should be re-named to reflect what it does house.

which in turn would also change GD to "General Silliness", or "Nonsense, but not so much as to be Locked".


Exactly. And I don't like that idea. There are plenty of thoughtful, meaningful discussions that happen or can happen in GD. Just as there's sometimes an appreciation of lightening the mood in P&R. I think we need to re-evaluate the way things have been moved, or not moved, lately. I understand the wanting to preserve a rapport that's been built up in P&R, but I think then the GD can 'suffer' from being only nonsense as well. For the good of both forums, we need a balance.
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Exactly. And I don't like that idea. There are plenty of thoughtful, meaningful discussions that happen or can happen in GD. Just as there's sometimes an appreciation of lightening the mood in P&R. I think we need to re-evaluate the way things have been moved, or not moved, lately. I understand the wanting to preserve a rapport that's been built up in P&R, but I think then the GD can 'suffer' from being only nonsense as well. For the good of both forums, we need a balance.


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Reply #29 posted 02/27/07 4:18pm

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OK. So where would a lengthy article on Women's education/income be placed where it is read??? No way would it fly in GD. What's the point of the orger's posting the data if it isn't appreciated? Whomever it was, spent a lot of time posting the information. It was the longest post I've seen on this site.
I'm aware the GD forum has serious topics regarding health, computer info, travel, etc. I'm not diminishing the importance of GD.
Moderators??? Can you help me out ? How do I find the article (so everyone can see what I'm talking about) without delving through the bowels of P&R? I think it was PurpleReign who posted it.
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The "search" the site doesn't function, I just spent hours looking through the topics the past year in P&R. Also looked in GD in case it was moved. No where to be found, but did conclude after viewing PurpleRein's posts in GD, he couldn't be the author. (how many tributes to Jersykers can you have in a year?)
I guess it's just lost. It was at least 6 months old...
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