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Reply #60 posted 08/16/02 2:13pm

roverlo

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Bibleteacher89 said:

I have to leave this site.

I'm not going to rant and rave about all the reasons why. ...

Well you do in the next paragraph...


The rest of you, as I said, it's all yours. This place has become a haven for racist, godless imbecils. "A dwelling place of demons and a lurking place of every unclean exhalation." I no longer want my name associated with it or the majority of its inhabitants.

Are you going to cancel your Internet subscription as well? 90% of the WEB is porn anyway, you want to be associated with that?

I just don't need the negativity in my life. No one does. You all are obviously most complacent with the way things are and don't need to hear views that shake your confidence in your "reality". It obviously is much too uncomfortable.

Too much for whom? Is your reality so unstable that you cannot hear views that might shake it?


So goodbye, all. Good riddance to some. Good riddance to arbitrary moderation. Good riddance to all the Anti-JW rhetoric and hateful lies. I pray that as many of you as possible wake up and see what is going on in this old, dying world.

There you go ranting again, you promised you wouldn't!

If you ever want the truth about Jehovah's Witnesses and our beliefs and/or acivities...ask one of us. You can also look at the following information:

http://www.watchtower.org
http://www.jw-media.org
http://users.eggconnect.n...wtmain.htm
http://hector3000.future..../index.htm

Thanks but being a non-religious, yet very open minded, person myself, I already know these sites. Also the sites of people who left the Jehovah Witness organization. Also very interesting, but of course all lies enforced by the Devil!?

In closure I must say that every time someone leaves the org, it kind makes me sad - we should be able to get along...and apparently we can't.
On the other hand, if you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

Really finally...
- nLA: good post!
- Ben: funny, but on second thought a bit unnessecary, wouldn't you agree?

Lots of Bible translations here
[This message was edited Fri Aug 16 14:14:15 PDT 2002 by roverlo]
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Reply #61 posted 08/16/02 2:18pm

Supernova

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BattierBeMyDaddy said:

Supernova said:

Aaron said:

Anybody keeping a tally on how many attention-seekers have announced that they're leaving?

And anybody keeping a tally on how many of them we care about?

Some people try to make a Grand Entrance, a lot of folks in Orgville try and make Grand Exits. rolleyes


Indeed. It's getting old. biggrin They simply want someone to beg them to stay, to provide reasons they should stay, and make a scene about it.

Methinks I shall make an Attention All Orgers thread AND send everyone I can think of (even the orgers I don't know) orgnotes to announce my future ORG DEPTARTURE. Oh, da drama, da drama, da drama. Anyone and everyone should be alerted as to WHY I'm leaving, the exact TIME and DATE I'm leaving, WHAT I'll be wearing, and WHAT my future plans shall be. Don't you think?

But I'll make time to come back to occasionally keep 2the9s in line under another screen name. He's such a dork. shrug
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #62 posted 08/16/02 2:29pm

Berry

I think this is sad. So many use "leaving the org" as a method to be heard. A way to express anger and pain, when it unfortunately does not provoke support, but hostility.

If someone posts "I'm leaving the org", rather than just logging off and never coming back, they are probably trying to rally some sort of acknowledgement and understanding. The problem with society today is that our communication skills are poor at best. We do not promote open and honest communication...we promote etiquette. We promote judgement rather than perspective.

What I think I hear bible saying is that he feels hurt by the things that have been going on out here. That it doesn't feel like the "safe-haven" of friendship that has been here for him/her before.

Sometimes getting to the root of our feelings is difficult, so we react without investigation. I think that is what is happening here.

Bible, figure out what is has trigured this and work on expressing it through using your perspective. Try not to finger point, just talk about the effect it has had on you. Take a break and come back when you are ready. We will still be here.
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Reply #63 posted 08/16/02 2:45pm

roverlo

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Berry said:

I think this is sad. So many use "leaving the org" as a method to be heard. A way to express anger and pain, when it unfortunately does not provoke support, but hostility.

If someone posts "I'm leaving the org", rather than just logging off and never coming back, they are probably trying to rally some sort of acknowledgement and understanding. The problem with society today is that our communication skills are poor at best. We do not promote open and honest communication...we promote etiquette. We promote judgement rather than perspective.


very well said ... bravo!
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Reply #64 posted 08/16/02 9:48pm

billychaz99

Oh thats right ben because you are sooo knowledgable and openminded. You my friend ( said with the most sarcasm I can muster) are the dog poo that has been sitting on my sidewalk baking for the last week. This just goes to show that there is no such thing as respect or personal dignity and that you deserve the rest of the small minded idiots on this site. You people allow others to harass people on their e-mail accounts ect. You do not provide the service or "protection" you promise to org members. It is obvious that you have set this up as your own little kingdom that you can rule arbitrarily. It is obvious to anyone with half a brain that in order to get anywhere on this site you have to "conform" with the non conformists. This is truly sad. So no I'm not going to post my own farewell, I'm just going to leave, even thogh I have only been on this site for a short time. Bible teacher came on this site to share his ( and the musician that you claim to love) view points on life and the Bible. Maybe he scared some of you, made you question what you have all been taught to believe, oh and God forbid think outside of the box. More pwer to him!!! You all are the saddest bunch of "intellectuals" I have ever seen. The only way you can even begin to make yourselves feel slightly intellegent is by trashing someone else. This does not go for everyone on this site, please those of you who do not fit this bill know who they are. LEAVE! GET OUT!!! The rest of these pathetic people will only suceed in sucking every intellegant thought out of your brains. Do not be mislead these people are Parasites!!!
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Reply #65 posted 08/16/02 11:04pm

Wolf

billychaz99 said:

Oh thats right ben because you are sooo knowledgable and openminded. You my friend ( said with the most sarcasm I can muster) are the dog poo that has been sitting on my sidewalk baking for the last week. This just goes to show that there is no such thing as respect or personal dignity and that you deserve the rest of the small minded idiots on this site. You people allow others to harass people on their e-mail accounts ect. You do not provide the service or "protection" you promise to org members. It is obvious that you have set this up as your own little kingdom that you can rule arbitrarily. It is obvious to anyone with half a brain that in order to get anywhere on this site you have to "conform" with the non conformists. This is truly sad. So no I'm not going to post my own farewell, I'm just going to leave, even thogh I have only been on this site for a short time. Bible teacher came on this site to share his ( and the musician that you claim to love) view points on life and the Bible. Maybe he scared some of you, made you question what you have all been taught to believe, oh and God forbid think outside of the box. More pwer to him!!! You all are the saddest bunch of "intellectuals" I have ever seen. The only way you can even begin to make yourselves feel slightly intellegent is by trashing someone else. This does not go for everyone on this site, please those of you who do not fit this bill know who they are. LEAVE! GET OUT!!! The rest of these pathetic people will only suceed in sucking every intellegant thought out of your brains. Do not be mislead these people are Parasites!!!


Just leave already and SHUT UP!
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Reply #66 posted 08/19/02 12:46am

MightBQueen

Who said:

MightBQueen said:


i think the chick track is supposed to be kind of a joke, funsters...


Not to Jack Chick. He's actually a pretty cool dude.


certainly a joke to the rest of us.

anyway... bibleteacher, i'm kinda surprised at you...
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Reply #67 posted 08/19/02 2:34am

Arcamar

I'm sorry.
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Reply #68 posted 08/19/02 2:59am

Xtreme

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Bibleteacher89 said:

goodbye, all. Good riddance to some. Good riddance to all the Anti-JW rhetoric and hateful lies.
There's no more hateful a lie than the bullshit of the JW cult. It enslaves and ruins people's minds and lives.
I pray that as many of you as possible wake up and see what is going on in this old, dying world.
There's no one as asleep as someone such as yourself.
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DJs are NOT musicians!
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Reply #69 posted 08/19/02 4:52am

jazzy328is

NavahTheButterFly said:[quote]why dont you ask those JW mother f*ckers these questions:

Why is your God always testing us?, Dont he know he did not make us perfect!!!

I am not a JW but God did make us perfect! Man chose to go the other way which led to imperfection. Read Genesis chapter 3:

and what is up with all the Mind games! why wont he let us physically see him?

Only the pure in heart will see God, We can't see because our hearts are not pure.


remember the teaching, he made us!! so dont blame us for the way we are mad

But he did not make us unbelieves,

if you ask me,,, I think your God is not a dull party poop like you!! I BET HE GETS A BIG KICK OUT OF US!! like look at them they are so full of life,, my creation,, wow! oh..

Jesus had fun, went to parties, and was loved by everyone except the religious fanatics, he had fun but did not sin, so if you want to have fun, have fun but do not sin.
How you gonna get my back when you fronting.
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Reply #70 posted 08/19/02 7:40am

Arcamar

STOP THAT NONSENSE!

WE ALL HAVE ONLY ONE GOD! ONE FOR ALL! WE SHOULD BE HAPPY ABOUT THAT AND THANKFUL FOR THE CREATION HE MADE AND FOR OUR LIFES! - WE SHOULD DO LOVE EACHOTHER AND DO TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE BACKGROUNDS OF INDIVIDUUM. WE SHOULD STOP BAGGING US GIVING EACHOTHER BACK KICKS AND HITS UNDER THE LINE. FOR WHAT DO YOU DO THAT? WHAT DO YOU FEEL THEN?
WHO WANTS PEACE? YOU? WE GOT TO LEARN TO HAVE PEACE. WE GOT TO WORK FOR LOVE AND FOR PEACE, YES... WHAT DID YOU MEANT? IT IS FOR FREE? NO... WE HAVE TO GO INSIDE OF US IN TO THE HIDDENST POINT OF OUR SOUL AND DO ASK HIM AND US AND BE HONEST. DO DISCRIMINATE EACHOTHER ISN'T THE RIGHT WAY. NEITHER TO DO INSULT EACHOTHER OR ANNULL SOMEONE,

WE HAVE NO RIGHT TO DO THESE! NO WAY! THIS IS THE WRONG DIRECTION. ALSO DO LEFT THE SHIP IS WRONG. WE HAVE TO WORK ALONE AND TOGETHER. THEN WE WILL SEE GOD. WE HAVE TO WORK FIRST, FOR GOOD. RECOVER THE LOVE GOD GAVE US AT THE BEGINN OF LIFE. - THEN RELIGIONS AIN'T A PROBLEM, AS WE USE TO MAKE TODAY FROM. SO WE GOT TO FIND THE REASON IN US WHY WE REALLY NEED THAT FIGHT, IF... AND FIND SOLUTIONS RESPECTING OUR FEELS AND THOUGHS.

THESE REQUIRES TIME... MUCH TIME... MUCH TIME... THEN LONGER WE ARE WAITING FOR WONDERS, THE LONGER THEY TAKE.


WE ALL ARE OUR CREATORS CHILDREN.

TAKE CARE.
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Reply #71 posted 08/19/02 10:35am

Aaron

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Arcamar said:

STOP THAT NONSENSE!

WE ALL HAVE ONLY ONE GOD! ONE FOR ALL!



This is the kind of attitude that starts religious arguments.

One God? We have many Gods. Every person who believes in God has their own individual version of God. And some of us have NO God. Please respect that. We don't all have one God.
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Reply #72 posted 08/19/02 11:04am

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Aaron said:

Dogma is dogma is dogma...


I love that movie! Kevin Smith rocks! wink
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Reply #73 posted 08/19/02 11:08am

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Aaron said:

Arcamar said:

STOP THAT NONSENSE!

WE ALL HAVE ONLY ONE GOD! ONE FOR ALL!



This is the kind of attitude that starts religious arguments.

One God? We have many Gods. Every person who believes in God has their own individual version of God. And some of us have NO God. Please respect that. We don't all have one God.



Tell 'em how it really is! smile
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Reply #74 posted 08/19/02 11:13am

Aaron

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FlyingCloudPassenger said:

ben said:

1. Thanks for posting in the appropriate forum.
2. See ya!



Wow. I'm suprised. Really. I've been loosely reading alot of bad threads but this moves me to join the thread...especially Ben's attitude.

Now, first off, no I'm not a religious person at all, not a Jehova's Witness, etc.

Second, I actually thought BibleTeacher89 was rather smart. Sure very into his religion, whatever. But he did provide a few threads worth reading over and discussing. He wasn't lazy, immature, clickish or childish, just into his thing.

I suspect, and this is just me that he came here because he perhaps thought he could change a few minds...not that he changed mine, but maybe he wanted to fight for his views on JW. The JW that Prince is now.

I don't think he was a biiig Prince fan but that was okay.

Now what really suprised me here was Ben's attitude towards him.
I just kind of find it suprising in terms of that Ben's actually happy to see someone go. Someone who really just wanted to share the knowledge.

It comes across like your behind the stupid posters who bring up stupid discussions. Now, mind you, yes...maybe I have posted something stupid or mindless (do a search) but, I don't know...Ben, you seem like you're setting yourself as someone who doesn't care about people feeling such negative things.

Now Ben, I've emailed ya before and we've had good emails back and forth, you've followed some suggestions, and that's cool and I THANK YOU, but, this attitude MIGHT not win you respect from some orgers.

The respect needed for people to follow the rules. You're the man here and yet, you taunt the ones who leave. That's too bad. It just sets a bad example.

I'm not planning on "leaving" or anything like that at all. All this is really just silly. But I hope other orgers don't start doing the more of the "I'm Leaving" thing because really, does it matter?

But if they do, the cool, down to earth ones, the humble ones, the ones who actually just want to talk Prince, good or bad, fun and positive ones who contributed, shared knowledge and ideas, helped each other, don't get taunted at the end by the actual people who put together the site. It's like a kick in the ass out the door, that's just not cool and simply disrespectful.

If some one leaves, too bad. No matter who it is, if they "leave" the org with such a bad taste it just reflects the management.

Tsk tsk. neutral



I'm not going to speak for Ben, but I know that if this was my site, I'd get sick of people bitching about how sucky it is and that they're leaving for good because they hate the service that I've provided free for them for God-knows-how-many hours of entertainment.
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Reply #75 posted 08/19/02 1:37pm

Aerogram

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Aaron said:

FlyingCloudPassenger said:

ben said:

1. Thanks for posting in the appropriate forum.
2. See ya!



Wow. I'm suprised. Really. I've been loosely reading alot of bad threads but this moves me to join the thread...especially Ben's attitude.

Now, first off, no I'm not a religious person at all, not a Jehova's Witness, etc.

Second, I actually thought BibleTeacher89 was rather smart. Sure very into his religion, whatever. But he did provide a few threads worth reading over and discussing. He wasn't lazy, immature, clickish or childish, just into his thing.

I suspect, and this is just me that he came here because he perhaps thought he could change a few minds...not that he changed mine, but maybe he wanted to fight for his views on JW. The JW that Prince is now.

I don't think he was a biiig Prince fan but that was okay.

Now what really suprised me here was Ben's attitude towards him.
I just kind of find it suprising in terms of that Ben's actually happy to see someone go. Someone who really just wanted to share the knowledge.

It comes across like your behind the stupid posters who bring up stupid discussions. Now, mind you, yes...maybe I have posted something stupid or mindless (do a search) but, I don't know...Ben, you seem like you're setting yourself as someone who doesn't care about people feeling such negative things.

Now Ben, I've emailed ya before and we've had good emails back and forth, you've followed some suggestions, and that's cool and I THANK YOU, but, this attitude MIGHT not win you respect from some orgers.

The respect needed for people to follow the rules. You're the man here and yet, you taunt the ones who leave. That's too bad. It just sets a bad example.

I'm not planning on "leaving" or anything like that at all. All this is really just silly. But I hope other orgers don't start doing the more of the "I'm Leaving" thing because really, does it matter?

But if they do, the cool, down to earth ones, the humble ones, the ones who actually just want to talk Prince, good or bad, fun and positive ones who contributed, shared knowledge and ideas, helped each other, don't get taunted at the end by the actual people who put together the site. It's like a kick in the ass out the door, that's just not cool and simply disrespectful.

If some one leaves, too bad. No matter who it is, if they "leave" the org with such a bad taste it just reflects the management.

Tsk tsk. neutral



I'm not going to speak for Ben, but I know that if this was my site, I'd get sick of people bitching about how sucky it is and that they're leaving for good because they hate the service that I've provided free for them for God-knows-how-many hours of entertainment.


As I have already explained on some other thread, people say "see ya" not necessarily out of rudeness, but because there are so many failed attempts to leave. It's hard to get all serious about saying goodbye to so and so. Plus we always hope that those who have left because of a conflict will realize it's the net and come back better prepared to deal with aggressivity and that type of thing.
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Reply #76 posted 08/19/02 1:45pm

Aaron

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Aerogram said:

Aaron said:

FlyingCloudPassenger said:

ben said:

1. Thanks for posting in the appropriate forum.
2. See ya!



Wow. I'm suprised. Really. I've been loosely reading alot of bad threads but this moves me to join the thread...especially Ben's attitude.

Now, first off, no I'm not a religious person at all, not a Jehova's Witness, etc.

Second, I actually thought BibleTeacher89 was rather smart. Sure very into his religion, whatever. But he did provide a few threads worth reading over and discussing. He wasn't lazy, immature, clickish or childish, just into his thing.

I suspect, and this is just me that he came here because he perhaps thought he could change a few minds...not that he changed mine, but maybe he wanted to fight for his views on JW. The JW that Prince is now.

I don't think he was a biiig Prince fan but that was okay.

Now what really suprised me here was Ben's attitude towards him.
I just kind of find it suprising in terms of that Ben's actually happy to see someone go. Someone who really just wanted to share the knowledge.

It comes across like your behind the stupid posters who bring up stupid discussions. Now, mind you, yes...maybe I have posted something stupid or mindless (do a search) but, I don't know...Ben, you seem like you're setting yourself as someone who doesn't care about people feeling such negative things.

Now Ben, I've emailed ya before and we've had good emails back and forth, you've followed some suggestions, and that's cool and I THANK YOU, but, this attitude MIGHT not win you respect from some orgers.

The respect needed for people to follow the rules. You're the man here and yet, you taunt the ones who leave. That's too bad. It just sets a bad example.

I'm not planning on "leaving" or anything like that at all. All this is really just silly. But I hope other orgers don't start doing the more of the "I'm Leaving" thing because really, does it matter?

But if they do, the cool, down to earth ones, the humble ones, the ones who actually just want to talk Prince, good or bad, fun and positive ones who contributed, shared knowledge and ideas, helped each other, don't get taunted at the end by the actual people who put together the site. It's like a kick in the ass out the door, that's just not cool and simply disrespectful.

If some one leaves, too bad. No matter who it is, if they "leave" the org with such a bad taste it just reflects the management.

Tsk tsk. neutral



I'm not going to speak for Ben, but I know that if this was my site, I'd get sick of people bitching about how sucky it is and that they're leaving for good because they hate the service that I've provided free for them for God-knows-how-many hours of entertainment.


As I have already explained on some other thread, people say "see ya" not necessarily out of rudeness, but because there are so many failed attempts to leave. It's hard to get all serious about saying goodbye to so and so. Plus we always hope that those who have left because of a conflict will realize it's the net and come back better prepared to deal with aggressivity and that type of thing.



Or they'll just keep their lame asses at home and away from here smile
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Reply #77 posted 08/20/02 2:54am

Arcamar

IceNine said:

Aaron said:

Arcamar said:

STOP THAT NONSENSE!

WE ALL HAVE ONLY ONE GOD! ONE FOR ALL!



This is the kind of attitude that starts religious arguments.

One God? We have many Gods. Every person who believes in God has their own individual version of God. And some of us have NO God. Please respect that. We don't all have one God.



Tell 'em how it really is! smile


I do respect you.
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Reply #78 posted 08/20/02 11:27pm

O4ITSME

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"Sometimes it's hard to believe that everyone here is a result of the sperm that won!"

lol...I shall barrow that one
[This message was edited Tue Aug 20 23:34:15 PDT 2002 by O4ITSME]
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Reply #79 posted 08/21/02 3:14am

MightBQueen

O4ITSME said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

neutral
"Sometimes it's hard to believe that everyone here is a result of the sperm that won!"

lol...I shall barrow that one
[This message was edited Tue Aug 20 23:34:15 PDT 2002 by O4ITSME]


:O

a very scary thot for those of us who'd like to conceive!

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Reply #80 posted 08/22/02 9:55am

kisscamille

Organized religion! It is the route of ALL evil. Take a look around you. Watch the news and read the paper. It is a fallacy! Spirituality is cool, organized religion is not. That's all I have to say about this subject.
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