TotalAlisa said:

He doesn't respond, trust me

sosgemini said:

TotalAlisa said:

you never responded to this... being said about the moderators have final say but that doesnt mean they are right.

TotalAlisa said:

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BlackBuddy said:

1) that thread had gotten way way way way out of control...it had recieved numerous complaints from various orgers...

2) i had issued a warning within that thread that no more flames would be tolerated and if folks did flame i would be banning them. although there was a lot of heated stuff before that i told everyone i was going to let it all slide and keep the thread open as long as folks followed site rules.

there were two participants in that thread who didnt follow my request....

i decided that since you normally dont get into flame wars i would isssue you a one week ban. the other orger who had recieved repeated warnings and suspensions recieved a permanent ban.

and

3) there was just soo much going on within that thread that i just didnt have the time to lock the thread...i did what was quick for *me* by hiding it. i did that expecially since there were soo many flames back and forth before my public warning...i had just had enough with that thread...i tried...but it was time for it to go bye bye.

so thats what happened...that was my though process...any questions?

TotalAlisa said:

so your saying that i treated you rudely? even when you thanked me in private for explaining why i couldnt allow the captian eo link to stay open? do you not remember our private conserations over this?

sosgemini said:

i have been on threads were people didnt like me because i had different opinions... and i like hamsters so they would constantly complain about me... even thought i wasnt being rude, mean or disrespectful to anyone.. and i didnt name call... those people just didnt like me... so they complained and i would always get in trouble... i would make a post and someone might call me an idiot then i would say they are one.. then i would be the one getting banned....

just cause a person complains doesnt mean that the person they are complaining about is completely wrong... it might mean... they just really dont like that person and want them to get banned... and by complaining thats their way of getting them banned

sosgemini said:

i never said that YOU treated me rude... i said if a moderator treats a member rude.... and i dont think you were rude to me.. unless you were the one that deactivated my account... other than that you have not been rude to Me...
[Edited 8/3/06 19:19pm]

totalalisa clarifed...nevermind.


[Edited 8/3/06 19:18pm]

TotalAlisa said:

gotcha.

sosgemini said:

1. I didn't see your post about flames, but even so, he had been flaming me for a while and I called him on it and he continued. He deserved what I said, which was actually harmless

2. Since you and others give people the courtesy of snipping a "flame" and since I don't "flame" people, I should have been given the same courtesy, period. I don't think that was right at all. You didn't even have the courtesy to explain this before the ban or when it was lifted, via orgnote

3. That's nice that you did what was best for you, but that was thread
that needed to be read, imo


Other mods are usuing this ban against me, by threatening me and giving me suggestions on what they think I should do...not cool. I'm not the type to lie on my back while being walked all over


as I posted in my other threads, certain things shouldn't be allowed if others aren't, including emoticons

TotalAlisa said:

yeah but, if they are baiting you: report the f*ckers!! dont flame back...cause you risk the fact that we dont read the entire thread and only see your flame. there is no "breaking the site rules in retaliation" clause...you flame back and your just as guilty.

besides, your doing yourself a favor by getting rid of the punks that are teasing you. dont let them bait you.

Sos, since we're playing open forum... I gotta know...

Why is it you feel you are being personally attacked (The 2nd post you made gives it away) when you did this exact same shit to Dansa before she left her moderation post here. You aired your personal shit and all of your grievances against her out in front of everyone to see and you attempted to do it in such an under-handed way which to this day I think has been the most tactless and rude thing I've ever witnessed on this site.

My main fault with you as a moderator is that you are always attempting to stick up for someones right to voice their opinion as long as it its within the boundaries of what you feel is appropiate.... <- read that carefully... not the boundaries of the forum rules but what YOU feel is appropiate. If you weren't a moderator I wouldn't be so bothered by these actions because you would simply be voicing an opinion. But your responses are usually just as condescending. You are usually objecting to responses in forums that you don't moderate. And I've seen you openly suggest in the forums, stuff like "if I was moderator of this forum, I'd lock this thread... etc"

And that happened to me over a person whose username was "dumbass"... In the course of (you) disagreeing with my opinion, when I referred to him/her by the username you accused me of flaming and my posts got snipped and censored upon your suggestion.
[Edited 8/3/06 19:49pm]

BSK3601 said:

This is so true-nicely said .

sosgemini said:

so if you werent a moderator... and you made a simple post that disagreed with a person.. and they randomly called you a "dumb B*&ch".. you wouldnt say something back... and going to the moderator complaining everytime someone calls you name might annoy the moderator and then they will start disliking you...

also would you want a 200 PM a day for complaints or would you rather just let people argue... whats the big deal if people argue...technically its not like someone is attually physically getting attacked... i think that people shouldnt argue but if it happens the person who started it should get banned...

i dont understand whats the big deal if their are small arguments on the forum...
and i i think it takes to much time for any moderator especially one thats not getting paid... to sit around and bann and read every argument

BSK3601 said:

at least yours got snipped

i was like basically scared to post my feelings on this thread cause
1. i thought they would be deleted
2. i thought i would get banned again...

but i shouldnt feel that way on forum... a prince forum...

BSK3601 said:

your free to your opinion...thanks for sharing.

re: dansa and i...dansa and i had a differing view on moderating...we were both adult enough to discuss our difference...nothing more/nothing less. my issue was having a condescending tone "while moderatng". if you think i have a "condescending tone" while im hanging out and posting in other forums whats the harm? i am not representing the org...im just sharing my views..big wooo that i might do it in a "condescending tone".

and your right, i thought you were calling someone "a dumbass"...it wasnt even towards me but i saw a flame so i reported it...no, what does that have to do with me objecting to your views? if i wanted to "power trip" wouldnt i have had you banned or had your comments towards me removed?

besides that, i remember that thread...(didnt remember it was you though)...everyone seemed to have a good laugh when the truth of your post was revealed...and i even admitted i made a mistake...so just what did i do wrong again?

nurse said:

you still crack me the fuck up.

sosgemini said:

TotalAlisa said:

because if there werent guidelines and inforcement of those guidelines then all hell would break loose...i get correspondance from folks who feel that their right to participate on this website free of harrassement is at risk...and we have to step in...

i know from time to time it may appear to folks that the moderation is heavy handed but you know what? things ebb and flow (did i say that phrase right?)...but the mods here really are trying their hardest to make this place fun for all...

i think the key for folks who have concerns is to address them in a polite and respectful fashion...i know im always willing to discuss mod stuff (within this this this here forum)...i never shy from responding to folks inquiry. even when folks are making some very extreme, meanspirited and hurtful accusations.

nurse said:

heeeeey the moderators lied to you... in your thread about: mods do your job. They said you wouldnt be ban... but you were....

im still trying to find out why i was banned....
so SOS.. please tell me why i was banned.... im still trying to figure out what i did... cause i just asked nurse if moderators get paid... and next thing i knew i couldnt log back in... i dont come on this org. name calling or starting trouble... so why did i get banned... when i asked nurse that question...
and i feel like i was owed an apology for some moderators Stupidity

sosgemini said:

Within this forum-LMAO

TotalAlisa said:

i orgnoted you which mod to address your questions to.

TotalAlisa said:

Yep-I was surely lied to-so much for honesty .

sosgemini said:

I'm not saying mods aren't human or infallible. It seems your mistakes are often the result of some type of vindication.

The only reason I brought up Dansa is because I felt that is was a good example of your abuse of your moderator privileges. If there were issues between you two, it should have all been discussed in private. However, you were at the forefront of the underhanded crusade against her. Your only saving grace that keeps these two situations from being direct reflections of one another is that you don't moderate in those areas where you are most condescending. I guess you don't feel you are an ambassador of Prince.org until someone opposes your views.

The last thing you did to piss me off was deleting my comments in a thread entitled D'angelo's Voodoo Sessions cd. I told anyone who wanted the songs (which won't be commercially released... and which were given away online in the first place) to orgnote me and you snipped up the comments with some eye-rolling emoticon and a condescending comment. I find it funny you never responded to my reply towards that.

The whole "dumbass" thing probably would have made for a good laugh if you weren't so dead set on making sure my comments got deleted by another mod. I would probably think it were funny had you done it, but my comments were only deleted because you suggested it to another moderator out in the open.

Pretty much I've just started to accept that you are one of those "say one thing... do another" moderators but I'm glad to see this "open house" on your moderation take place for a change.
[Edited 8/3/06 20:25pm]

sosgemini said:

why bother... they are just going to give me a lame crappy excuse... and then say "the moderators have final say"... how can i argue against that... even when im right

TotalAlisa said:

They don't apologize

nurse said:

you do realize that i dont moderate this forum, right? i dont control which threads stay open, get locked or are hidden. and i have addressed a lot of your comments within this forum... so why indicate via emoticons otherwise?

sosgemini said:

then what do you do