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Reply #30 posted 07/01/06 12:51pm

Anx

nurse said:

Anx said:



1. What if all those "offensive works" that I alluded to were works that used that word repeatedly? Books like "Huckleberry Finn" or movies like "Pulp Fiction"? What about all the countless hip-hop songs that use the word? If we can't use the word on this site anymore, why should we be allowed to glorify works of so-called "art" which glorify use of the word? Wouldn't that be as dangerous as using the word itself? I'm being very serious in asking you this.

2. As for the wondering about the mods' opinions, you do realize that it was a mod who started this very thread, right?

3. The African-American after whom this site was named is not exactly exempt from blame in using the "n-word" in his lyrics. Should we ban Prince?



1-The use of the N-word in any form is wrong including in the arts and in the trash that is hip-hop nowadays.

2-I did know that a mod created this forum. My point was did they pose this question for honest truthful decision making related to the N-word or was it just to evoke emotions from people. Because essentially when ever this topic is brought up-it does evoke strong feelings in people in general.

3-I don't encourage the usage of the N-word for any person including Prince. My point was that just like many other artist he has done many songs about the topic of racism (which in case you don't know) still exist.Surely, he has used the word just like many others have, but won't admit-that still doesn't make it right wink .


what about people who take offense at other words that they consider deeply hurtful? do you think we should compile a list of words we cannot use on this site?

and you didn't really answer my previous question: shouldn't we ban discussion of any work of art or entertainment that makes gratuitous use of the words on the org's "do not say" list?

after all, the org not only bans the trade of prince bootlegs, but it also bans information about sites where you can find bootlegs.

so if we protect ourselves from hurtful words on this site, shouldn't we also be protected from materials that promote the use of those dangerous words?
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Reply #31 posted 07/01/06 12:52pm

nurse

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nurse said:




1-The use of the N-word in any form is wrong including in the arts and in the trash that is hip-hop nowadays.

2-I did know that a mod created this forum. My point was did they pose this question for honest truthful decision making related to the N-word or was it just to evoke emotions from people. Because essentially when ever this topic is brought up-it does evoke strong feelings in people in general.

3-I don't encourage the usage of the N-word for any person including Prince. My point was that just like many other artist he has done many songs about the topic of racism (which in case you don't know) still exist.Surely, he has used the word just like many others have, but won't admit-that still doesn't make it right wink .


The forum rules clearly say that posting hateful or racist material is not allowed. I strongly encourage the mods to strictly carry out these rules, and I think they do. Isn't that enough? Do we need extra rules for specific words?



Actually, yes we do because if it was any other racial slur directed towards any other race then I'm sure there would be people upset. What makes the N-word so different? (maybe it's because were talking about something that is directed at African-Americans) Afterall, the rules do change for us "black folk." The fact that any racial slur is offensive to the users of the ORG should be enough for them to ban this word and for that any other racist words that people use. That's my opinion of it. I think that if you have not lived your life being called such a word whether secretly or out in the open-then you really cannot form an opinion about it. It's an atrocious word and the ORG and it's Mods are better than that to allow so many of it's users to be constantly offended whenever it is in usage around here wink .
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Reply #32 posted 07/01/06 12:55pm

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2-I did know that a mod created this forum. My point was did they pose this question for honest truthful decision making related to the N-word or was it just to evoke emotions from people. Because essentially when ever this topic is brought up-it does evoke strong feelings in people in general.




huh? why not just ask me intent rather then making accusations? and if you ask me nicely, i just might give you an answer.


lol
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Reply #33 posted 07/01/06 1:01pm

nurse

sosgemini said:

nurse said:


2-I did know that a mod created this forum. My point was did they pose this question for honest truthful decision making related to the N-word or was it just to evoke emotions from people. Because essentially when ever this topic is brought up-it does evoke strong feelings in people in general.




huh? why not just ask me intent rather then making accusations? and if you ask me nicely, i just might give you an answer.


lol




Okay, then I'll ask you was your intention to really find out the opinions of Orgers for the purpose of truthful decision making related to banning or not to ban this word? If so, then as an Orger who logs on here daily or every other day my opinion is that as an African-American the word is "hurtful" to millions of people so choose your decision wisely. Making accusations is not Nurses style wink . Still luv ya though.
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Reply #34 posted 07/01/06 1:01pm

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nurse said:

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The forum rules clearly say that posting hateful or racist material is not allowed. I strongly encourage the mods to strictly carry out these rules, and I think they do. Isn't that enough? Do we need extra rules for specific words?



Actually, yes we do because if it was any other racial slur directed towards any other race then I'm sure there would be people upset. What makes the N-word so different? (maybe it's because were talking about something that is directed at African-Americans) Afterall, the rules do change for us "black folk." The fact that any racial slur is offensive to the users of the ORG should be enough for them to ban this word and for that any other racist words that people use. That's my opinion of it. I think that if you have not lived your life being called such a word whether secretly or out in the open-then you really cannot form an opinion about it. It's an atrocious word and the ORG and it's Mods are better than that to allow so many of it's users to be constantly offended whenever it is in usage around here wink .
[Edited 7/1/06 12:54pm]


i don't say this in a belittling way AT ALL, but:

african americans do not hold a monopoly on being the recipients of ignorance.

if use of the "n" word is banned on this site, i fully expect "fag", "chink", "kyke", "bitch", "breeder", "cracker" and every other word used to belittle another person to be banned.

and after that happens, i'll happily delete my account and let the rest of the org live in its happy fairydust unicorn fantasy world.
[Edited 7/1/06 13:01pm]
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Reply #35 posted 07/01/06 1:07pm

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Anx said:

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Actually, yes we do because if it was any other racial slur directed towards any other race then I'm sure there would be people upset. What makes the N-word so different? (maybe it's because were talking about something that is directed at African-Americans) Afterall, the rules do change for us "black folk." The fact that any racial slur is offensive to the users of the ORG should be enough for them to ban this word and for that any other racist words that people use. That's my opinion of it. I think that if you have not lived your life being called such a word whether secretly or out in the open-then you really cannot form an opinion about it. It's an atrocious word and the ORG and it's Mods are better than that to allow so many of it's users to be constantly offended whenever it is in usage around here wink .
[Edited 7/1/06 12:54pm]


i don't say this in a belittling way AT ALL, but:

african americans do not hold a monopoly on being the recipients of ignorance.

if use of the "n" word is banned on this site, i fully expect "fag", "chink", "kyke", "bitch", "breeder", "cracker" and every other word used to belittle another person to be banned.

and after that happens, i'll happily delete my account and let the rest of the org live in its happy fairydust unicorn fantasy world.
[Edited 7/1/06 13:01pm]



Do you have kids? Well, I have a son that I truly love and for his sake and for everybody else words like this are simply hateful and if a person has to use them to make a point-then their point is worthless.Racism on every level is wrong no matter if it's on the ORG or right next door. You don't have to insult or belittle people to make a point. As for deleting your account-Hey do what you have to do.
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Reply #36 posted 07/01/06 1:17pm

Anx

nurse said:

Anx said:



i don't say this in a belittling way AT ALL, but:

african americans do not hold a monopoly on being the recipients of ignorance.

if use of the "n" word is banned on this site, i fully expect "fag", "chink", "kyke", "bitch", "breeder", "cracker" and every other word used to belittle another person to be banned.

and after that happens, i'll happily delete my account and let the rest of the org live in its happy fairydust unicorn fantasy world.
[Edited 7/1/06 13:01pm]



Do you have kids? Well, I have a son that I truly love and for his sake and for everybody else words like this are simply hateful and if a person has to use them to make a point-then their point is worthless.Racism on every level is wrong no matter if it's on the ORG or right next door. You don't have to insult or belittle people to make a point. As for deleting your account-Hey do what you have to do.


i do not have kids, but i don't see how that diminishes my opinion, because i have BEEN a kid, and i am still affected to this day by the way other kids treated me just because i was "different". but, see, where you and i differ is: as an adult, i try to make people understand the consequences of their actions whenever i am able. meanwhile, your approach is to deny freedoms for the sake of making things less offensive.

until you understand that it is the INTENT of words that is hurtful and not the words themselves, you're always going to be missing an important piece of the puzzle.

and until the org starts going all PMRC and telling us what words we can and can't use, i'll be sticking around a while longer. guess we're stuck with each other, huh? hug
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Reply #37 posted 07/01/06 1:24pm

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nurse said:

sosgemini said:




huh? why not just ask me intent rather then making accusations? and if you ask me nicely, i just might give you an answer.


lol




Okay, then I'll ask you was your intention to really find out the opinions of Orgers for the purpose of truthful decision making related to banning or not to ban this word? If so, then as an Orger who logs on here daily or every other day my opinion is that as an African-American the word is "hurtful" to millions of people so choose your decision wisely. Making accusations is not Nurses style wink . Still luv ya though.



is the org considering banning the word? no...was i considering proposing that us mod's discuss banning the word? yup...but after reading folks comments here i 'm thinking things should just be left as it...
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Reply #38 posted 07/01/06 1:25pm

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Anx said:

nurse said:




Actually, yes we do because if it was any other racial slur directed towards any other race then I'm sure there would be people upset. What makes the N-word so different? (maybe it's because were talking about something that is directed at African-Americans) Afterall, the rules do change for us "black folk." The fact that any racial slur is offensive to the users of the ORG should be enough for them to ban this word and for that any other racist words that people use. That's my opinion of it. I think that if you have not lived your life being called such a word whether secretly or out in the open-then you really cannot form an opinion about it. It's an atrocious word and the ORG and it's Mods are better than that to allow so many of it's users to be constantly offended whenever it is in usage around here wink .
[Edited 7/1/06 12:54pm]


i don't say this in a belittling way AT ALL, but:

african americans do not hold a monopoly on being the recipients of ignorance.

if use of the "n" word is banned on this site, i fully expect "fag", "chink", "kyke", "bitch", "breeder", "cracker" and every other word used to belittle another person to be banned.

and after that happens, i'll happily delete my account and let the rest of the org live in its happy fairydust unicorn fantasy world.
[Edited 7/1/06 13:01pm]


dude, is that really called for...cant folks be free to share their perspective without being belittled? at least in the site discussion forum, please?
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Reply #39 posted 07/01/06 1:27pm

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May I ask a question here? If an African-American person uses the N word (like Sam Jackson in "Pulp Fiction"), does that qualify as racist too? Btw, I've never understood why some black people (like some rappers) use a word with such a meaning and can get away with it.

Other than that, I think this could be called a discussion about nothing. In most cases, a post using this word will be snipped by the mods anyway, so we're only discussing the very rare cases where this is not the case, like its use in a Prince songtitle for example. Do we really want an org where people are forced to type "Goldn...." and get banned if they don't? Or do you suggest not to apply this rule on Prince's work because he's above such rules?
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Reply #40 posted 07/01/06 1:29pm

nurse

Anx said:

nurse said:




Do you have kids? Well, I have a son that I truly love and for his sake and for everybody else words like this are simply hateful and if a person has to use them to make a point-then their point is worthless.Racism on every level is wrong no matter if it's on the ORG or right next door. You don't have to insult or belittle people to make a point. As for deleting your account-Hey do what you have to do.


i do not have kids, but i don't see how that diminishes my opinion, because i have BEEN a kid, and i am still affected to this day by the way other kids treated me just because i was "different". but, see, where you and i differ is: as an adult, i try to make people understand the consequences of their actions whenever i am able. meanwhile, your approach is to deny freedoms for the sake of making things less offensive.

until you understand that it is the INTENT of words that is hurtful and not the words themselves, you're always going to be missing an important piece of the puzzle.

and until the org starts going all PMRC and telling us what words we can and can't use, i'll be sticking around a while longer. guess we're stuck with each other, huh? hug



Just to sum the discussion up-Do you know the Intent of the N-word? Guess what? Millions of African-Americans who have been called this Do and they've felt the sting of the word many times over. As for denying freedoms-I guess it's okay to deny people the right to feel important and make them feel inadequate because that's just what the N-word does. If you do eventually have kids I hope that they will learn that freedom is still denied to many in this world and racism plays apart in that wink .
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Reply #41 posted 07/01/06 1:32pm

nurse

sosgemini said:

nurse said:





Okay, then I'll ask you was your intention to really find out the opinions of Orgers for the purpose of truthful decision making related to banning or not to ban this word? If so, then as an Orger who logs on here daily or every other day my opinion is that as an African-American the word is "hurtful" to millions of people so choose your decision wisely. Making accusations is not Nurses style wink . Still luv ya though.



is the org considering banning the word? no...was i considering proposing that us mod's discuss banning the word? yup...but after reading folks comments here i 'm thinking things should just be left as it...




Usually when nothing can be changed it is left alone. But it was an indepth discussion though wink .
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Reply #42 posted 07/01/06 1:36pm

nurse

EmancipationLover said:

May I ask a question here? If an African-American person uses the N word (like Sam Jackson in "Pulp Fiction"), does that qualify as racist too? Btw, I've never understood why some black people (like some rappers) use a word with such a meaning and can get away with it.

Other than that, I think this could be called a discussion about nothing. In most cases, a post using this word will be snipped by the mods anyway, so we're only discussing the very rare cases where this is not the case, like its use in a Prince songtitle for example. Do we really want an org where people are forced to type "Goldn...." and get banned if they don't? Or do you suggest not to apply this rule on Prince's work because he's above such rules?




As I've already said the use of this word by anyone is wrong including other African-Americans. It's just wrong no matter who uses it. People fought and died not to be called this and people just throw it around like their deaths had no meanings at all sad . This goes for Prince (as I've already stated) and anybody else.
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Reply #43 posted 07/01/06 1:40pm

Anx

sosgemini said:

Anx said:



i don't say this in a belittling way AT ALL, but:

african americans do not hold a monopoly on being the recipients of ignorance.

if use of the "n" word is banned on this site, i fully expect "fag", "chink", "kyke", "bitch", "breeder", "cracker" and every other word used to belittle another person to be banned.

and after that happens, i'll happily delete my account and let the rest of the org live in its happy fairydust unicorn fantasy world.
[Edited 7/1/06 13:01pm]


dude, is that really called for...cant folks be free to share their perspective without being belittled? at least in the site discussion forum, please?


i wasn't belittling the person, i was belittling the idea. but if that's not allowed, i'm sorry. here: i think it's a great plan! thumbs up!
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Reply #44 posted 07/01/06 1:41pm

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nurse said:

EmancipationLover said:

May I ask a question here? If an African-American person uses the N word (like Sam Jackson in "Pulp Fiction"), does that qualify as racist too? Btw, I've never understood why some black people (like some rappers) use a word with such a meaning and can get away with it.

Other than that, I think this could be called a discussion about nothing. In most cases, a post using this word will be snipped by the mods anyway, so we're only discussing the very rare cases where this is not the case, like its use in a Prince songtitle for example. Do we really want an org where people are forced to type "Goldn...." and get banned if they don't? Or do you suggest not to apply this rule on Prince's work because he's above such rules?




As I've already said the use of this word by anyone is wrong including other African-Americans. It's just wrong no matter who uses it. People fought and died not to be called this and people just throw it around like their deaths had no meanings at all sad . This goes for Prince (as I've already stated) and anybody else.


I completely see your point, but I'm afraid that you haven't fully answered my question. If anyone types "Goldnigga" instead of "Goldn....", let's say during a discussion of 90s Prince side projects, should this be snipped and the person receive a (temporary) ban? In other words, should Prince's work be censored as a consequence of org rules?

Please see the implications of that: You dedicate a site to Prince, and then you establish a rule which doesn't allow you an uncensored discussion of Prince's work anymore. Isn't that somehow nuts?
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Reply #45 posted 07/01/06 1:43pm

Anx

nurse said:

Anx said:



i do not have kids, but i don't see how that diminishes my opinion, because i have BEEN a kid, and i am still affected to this day by the way other kids treated me just because i was "different". but, see, where you and i differ is: as an adult, i try to make people understand the consequences of their actions whenever i am able. meanwhile, your approach is to deny freedoms for the sake of making things less offensive.

until you understand that it is the INTENT of words that is hurtful and not the words themselves, you're always going to be missing an important piece of the puzzle.

and until the org starts going all PMRC and telling us what words we can and can't use, i'll be sticking around a while longer. guess we're stuck with each other, huh? hug



Just to sum the discussion up-Do you know the Intent of the N-word? Guess what? Millions of African-Americans who have been called this Do and they've felt the sting of the word many times over. As for denying freedoms-I guess it's okay to deny people the right to feel important and make them feel inadequate because that's just what the N-word does. If you do eventually have kids I hope that they will learn that freedom is still denied to many in this world and racism plays apart in that wink .


if i raise my kids right, they won't have to wait until they're out in the world to know that ignorance exists...and that hurtful words say more about the people saying them than it has to do with the people on the receiving end.

or i could just isolate them from the world as long as i can, and expect the world to censor itself for the sake of keeping my child's ears free of ignorance.

if the N-word is this inexcusable to you, why are you a prince fan? how can you forgive him for using such a hurtful word? or do certain people get a pass?
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Reply #46 posted 07/01/06 1:44pm

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sosgemini said:



dude, is that really called for...cant folks be free to share their perspective without being belittled? at least in the site discussion forum, please?


i wasn't belittling the person, i was belittling the idea. but if that's not allowed, i'm sorry. here: i think it's a great plan! thumbs up!


but why? why not just let folks share their views?
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Reply #47 posted 07/01/06 1:48pm

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Ban the word is hard. Punish the version of it? Yes. If it's used to race-bait or in a hateful way, then punish the person using it in that way. If it's used in context to explain socio-political issues, then it's ok in THAT context. Now, as for the "gga" ending, same thing: Punish those using it gratuitously unless there is a song or title with that word in it and they are NOT just typing the title to incite or race-bait.
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Reply #48 posted 07/01/06 1:50pm

Anx

sosgemini said:

Anx said:



i wasn't belittling the person, i was belittling the idea. but if that's not allowed, i'm sorry. here: i think it's a great plan! thumbs up!


but why? why not just let folks share their views?


um. i'm the bad guy? lol

my little unicorn statement was nothing more than MY view. i think it's delusional to make a no-no list of words that can't be said on here, and i also think it's opening up a can of worms that will be the bane of your existence and that of all the other mods on here.

not only that, if such a rule came to pass, i'd feel uncomfortable posting on here anymore because once such a precedent is put into place, it's only a matter of time until we can't say words like "fat" or "skinny" or "old" or "young" or....what else? when is it "okay" for a person to be hurt by a word on a web site? when do you draw the line?

yes. i think the idea is ridiculous. fairydust and unicorns ridiculous. if you want to tangle that sentiment up with what i may or may not think of any PERSON on this thread, that's on you.
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Reply #49 posted 07/01/06 1:52pm

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nurse said:





As I've already said the use of this word by anyone is wrong including other African-Americans. It's just wrong no matter who uses it. People fought and died not to be called this and people just throw it around like their deaths had no meanings at all sad . This goes for Prince (as I've already stated) and anybody else.


I completely see your point, but I'm afraid that you haven't fully answered my question. If anyone types "Goldnigga" instead of "Goldn....", let's say during a discussion of 90s Prince side projects, should this be snipped and the person receive a (temporary) ban? In other words, should Prince's work be censored as a consequence of org rules?

Please see the implications of that: You dedicate a site to Prince, and then you establish a rule which doesn't allow you an uncensored discussion of Prince's work anymore. Isn't that somehow nuts?



First of all-I've been a fan of Prince for over 20 years and I know very well that he has used the word in the past. That's Prince's moral judgement and between him and his God. As for the CD "GN" personally I've never cared for it or the title and yes censorship on some levels is good. An artist's work can be discussed without offending others. The title can be discussed without offending others-it's all in the way it is presented wink . But the word itself is just wrong no matter who the artist happens to be. Yes, the site is Prince.org and his work should be discussed, but what is the difference between threads that are put up and contain racial slurs and are locked and threads that contain Prince lyrics with racial slurs-nothing. Just because it's Prince doesn't make it okay to insult African-Americans and for that matter anyone else who may be offended by the word wink .
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Reply #50 posted 07/01/06 1:54pm

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nurse said:


First of all-I've been a fan of Prince for over 20 years and I know very well that he has used the word in the past. That's Prince's moral judgement and between him and his God.


so:

prince using the "n" word: between him and god.

anyone on here using the "n" word: BANNED!!!

dang, fame has its privileges! lol
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Reply #51 posted 07/01/06 1:56pm

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Anx said:

sosgemini said:



but why? why not just let folks share their views?


um. i'm the bad guy? lol

my little unicorn statement was nothing more than MY view. i think it's delusional to make a no-no list of words that can't be said on here, and i also think it's opening up a can of worms that will be the bane of your existence and that of all the other mods on here.

not only that, if such a rule came to pass, i'd feel uncomfortable posting on here anymore because once such a precedent is put into place, it's only a matter of time until we can't say words like "fat" or "skinny" or "old" or "young" or....what else? when is it "okay" for a person to be hurt by a word on a web site? when do you draw the line?

yes. i think the idea is ridiculous. fairydust and unicorns ridiculous. if you want to tangle that sentiment up with what i may or may not think of any PERSON on this thread, that's on you.



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Reply #52 posted 07/01/06 1:58pm

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Anx said:

nurse said:




Just to sum the discussion up-Do you know the Intent of the N-word? Guess what? Millions of African-Americans who have been called this Do and they've felt the sting of the word many times over. As for denying freedoms-I guess it's okay to deny people the right to feel important and make them feel inadequate because that's just what the N-word does. If you do eventually have kids I hope that they will learn that freedom is still denied to many in this world and racism plays apart in that wink .


if i raise my kids right, they won't have to wait until they're out in the world to know that ignorance exists...and that hurtful words say more about the people saying them than it has to do with the people on the receiving end.

or i could just isolate them from the world as long as i can, and expect the world to censor itself for the sake of keeping my child's ears free of ignorance.

if the N-word is this inexcusable to you, why are you a prince fan? how can you forgive him for using such a hurtful word? or do certain people get a pass?



How you raise your kids is your business and as far as isolating them that's just ridiculous. My lifelong love of Prince's music has nothing to do with whether or not I agree with his moral judgements to use this word and as far as passing I think you may be passing for someone who only wants to view your own opinions at this moment rolleyes.
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Reply #53 posted 07/01/06 2:00pm

nurse

Anx said:

nurse said:


First of all-I've been a fan of Prince for over 20 years and I know very well that he has used the word in the past. That's Prince's moral judgement and between him and his God.


so:

prince using the "n" word: between him and god.

anyone on here using the "n" word: BANNED!!!

dang, fame has its privileges! lol



You need to stop rolleyes I'm thinking that you just like your own opinion and no one else's matters.
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Reply #54 posted 07/01/06 2:00pm

Anx

sosgemini said:

Anx said:



um. i'm the bad guy? lol

my little unicorn statement was nothing more than MY view. i think it's delusional to make a no-no list of words that can't be said on here, and i also think it's opening up a can of worms that will be the bane of your existence and that of all the other mods on here.

not only that, if such a rule came to pass, i'd feel uncomfortable posting on here anymore because once such a precedent is put into place, it's only a matter of time until we can't say words like "fat" or "skinny" or "old" or "young" or....what else? when is it "okay" for a person to be hurt by a word on a web site? when do you draw the line?

yes. i think the idea is ridiculous. fairydust and unicorns ridiculous. if you want to tangle that sentiment up with what i may or may not think of any PERSON on this thread, that's on you.



interesting...



if we're going to protect the feelings of one group of people, we must then take on the responsibility to protect the feelings of ALL groups who post on this site. otherwise, it sends the message that it's NOT okay to use african american-specific racist language, but sexist, homophobic, age-ist, size-ist language or words that belittle other races are fair game.

and i really don't think that's the message the org wants to send.
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Reply #55 posted 07/01/06 2:02pm

Anx

nurse said:

Anx said:



so:

prince using the "n" word: between him and god.

anyone on here using the "n" word: BANNED!!!

dang, fame has its privileges! lol



You need to stop rolleyes I'm thinking that you just like your own opinion and no one else's matters.


you read me like a book. redface
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Reply #56 posted 07/01/06 2:04pm

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Anx said:

sosgemini said:




interesting...



if we're going to protect the feelings of one group of people, we must then take on the responsibility to protect the feelings of ALL groups who post on this site. otherwise, it sends the message that it's NOT okay to use racist language, but sexist, homophobic, age-ist, size-ist language or words that belittle other races are fair game.

and i really don't think that's the message the org wants to send.



Racism is comprised all of these things not just words directed at African-Americans. Stop while your still making sense rolleyes.
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Reply #57 posted 07/01/06 2:06pm

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Anx said:

nurse said:




You need to stop rolleyes I'm thinking that you just like your own opinion and no one else's matters.


you read me like a book. redface



see, this is why i really didnt want this to turn into a debate...i just wanted to better understand where folks stand on this issue...

and no, your not the bad guy (and neither is nurse and neither is i) but the minute you start judging/debating folks views (expecially on sensative subjects such as race relations) folks start to feel intimidated when their views might be countered thus reducing the responces.

thats why i didnt start this thread in p&r...cause the wheels start spinning and it never ends.
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Reply #58 posted 07/01/06 2:09pm

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Anx said:

sosgemini said:




interesting...



if we're going to protect the feelings of one group of people, we must then take on the responsibility to protect the feelings of ALL groups who post on this site. otherwise, it sends the message that it's NOT okay to use african american-specific racist language, but sexist, homophobic, age-ist, size-ist language or words that belittle other races are fair game.

and i really don't think that's the message the org wants to send.



this i can relate to much moreso then the talk of unicorns and pixies and rob reiner films...
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Reply #59 posted 07/01/06 2:12pm

Anx

nurse said:

Anx said:




if we're going to protect the feelings of one group of people, we must then take on the responsibility to protect the feelings of ALL groups who post on this site. otherwise, it sends the message that it's NOT okay to use racist language, but sexist, homophobic, age-ist, size-ist language or words that belittle other races are fair game.

and i really don't think that's the message the org wants to send.



Racism is comprised all of these things not just words directed at African-Americans. Stop while your still making sense rolleyes.


so should we make a list of all words that can hurt any given group of people or not? you've yet to answer this, though i've mentioned this idea repeatedly in this thread.
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