Eternaldragon said:

not that i am upset about it anymore, but you did tell me i made up my god because i believe in the bible as parable rather than literal... which didn't seem to set sosgemini's sixth sense off, suprisingly




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so, i think we all deserve some clarification on this new rule, so we can try and avoid a preemptive strike upon us.

does it only cover religious beliefs, or are we all covered in that no one can tell us our beliefs are wrong? is it only the christian beliefs which are not allowed to be challenged, or all of them?

should we report to the mods when someone tells us our beliefs are wrong, or just hope for a mod to strike down on their own?

stuff like that.



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cborgman said:

dude, its not a new rule...nothings changed...those rules have been in place for the past couple years...things have been going fine, and that thread is going fine, you seem to be the only one making an issue of this...

whats your beef?

sosgemini said:

i don't see anything about not being allowed to "tell other's their religious beliefs are wrong" in the site rules, so it clearly is a new rule. because the post was clearly civil, and took issue with the idea, not the person, as the rules instruct.

just curious as to how this new rule you have created that people are not "to tell other's their religious beliefs are wrong" works, so i can start utilizing it.


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in fact, the closest i can find is "do not attack other individuals on the basis of their beliefs"

which if you delete a few words could read "do not attack other ... beliefs", but that is close as it comes.

Eternaldragon said:

ED, you have quite blatently lambasted catholics and Jews on this forum before. Youve called them misguided and led astray many a time. Especially the ones who do not interpret your bible the same way you do. If I remember correctly, you have even labelled muslims as being led by the devil and that they will go to hell if they dont convert to the same beliefs you have. "Jesus has shown them the way, they have chosen not to take it". Please, dont put yourself up on a pedestal here, youre less tolerant of other viewpoints than most on the org.

Rebeljuice said:

pook and CTC have said some really choice things about muslims like 'the only time a muslim is happy is when all christians are converted or dead' (slightly paraphrsed from memory), whcih didn't set anyone's sixth sense off, yet saying that 'the bible is not the word of any god' gets the mod awake... curious.

if this rule is going to be going into effect, the forum is going completely political.
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seems kinda partisan and slanted to me.

keep in mind, i am for as little modding as possible, but if we are going to have preemptive measures taken on the sole basis of someone not agreeing with the christian religion, i am gonna make damn sure that is carried out across the board, not just for the christians, whcih is going to eliminate almost any discussion of religion or faith, which i am against.
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once again, i quote the forum rules:


if someone is telling someone else that their religious beliefs are wrong i have the discretion to remove those comments...no i do not see or read all the comments within the forum and if anyone objects to those comments i would recommend they use the report to moderation option.

just because Ed is willing to take the sh*t it does not give folks a greenlight to go after him...or any other person for that matter.

i think its time to move on now folks...there are no new site rules...and i get the impression this is all just a bunch of drama for drama's sack. if you have further questions for me please orgnote me.

thanks!!

sosgemini said:

so if someone tells us our beliefs are wrong, report it. got it.



does anyone else check the reported posts, or just you?

okay, reported a bunch that tell people their beliefs are wrong. like 10 or so examples from two current threads. that should keep you busy for a while. let me know when those are done and i will start on the next batch.

well... apparently unless unless you are of a certain faith, sosgemini's rules don't apply for you.

i reported several including one where non-believers are called idiots, and he ignored them all.

perhaps everyone should report posts that insult their beliefs and them. maybe we could get fair moderation that way.

cborgman,

I went though this same thing about a year ago on another topic. Not Religion.

Just remember the golden rule, "he who has the gold makes the rules."

There is no way to anticipate this. Every now and then you will be gently reminded by the powers that be, when your opinion goes against theirs.

It is the way it works here, and in most forums.

Some of the comments I have heard about homosexuality border on hate but if that doesn't rub the mod the wrong way no comment will be made.

As you have noted, one could find countless examples much worse than the post in question here.

There is no rhyme or reason.

Like the bible, the rules are open to interperetation.

cest la vie

ya'll are WRONG

Geez...

roanmairin said:

The gay thing is prolly not a good example though cos a relative lot of the mods are gay. I can totally see their point of "if it doesn't get to us then y'all should be ok too."

Teacher said:

Then the same should apply to religion. Or anything else for that matter, it doesn't matter what the given subject is there should be equal footing.

Being gay or not doesn't change the fact that the statements often made are much stronger than the post in question here.

If a statement against gays (or subject x) is tolerated and a statement against religion (or subject y) is not that is a problem.

Go back and read the thread in question and you'll see why this discussion happened.

Rebeljuice said:

I beg your pardon, but don't think I have done those things. I have NEVER said Muslims are led by the devil. I would NEVER propose to know where someones eternal destiny would lie. How could I possibly know that?

Jews? When have I lambasted Jews? I have lambasted Pharisees, but have said nothing different than what is written in clear English in the Bible about them. As far as Catholics, yes I have argued their particular slant on certain issues but never lambasted them or else I am sure I would have been warned by sos about that.

I have always used scripture and have never seen an alternate interpretation from anyone other than a Catholic website and JW's themselves. Now if you had said I have lambasted JW's, I may have been quilty of that in some heated exchanges.

Eternaldragon said:

Yes, and one could never find anything cruel or judgemental in the scriptures.

Enough already! Dayum!!