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PrintableI am shocked and offended by these allegations. I steadfastly believe with all my heart that the Org is insensitive to EVERYONE, regardless of race, creed, nationality, gender or age. | |
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"Cut me, Cut U...Both the blood is red"
I yearn for the day when race ceases to be an issue, but I know I won't live to see it. I am as white as white gets. My roots trace back to roughly around the time the Anglos met the Saxons; or when white met bread, but I can't get a handle on what's gained by adopting a name like "BLACKMF"... Big deal. Wonder how it'd be received if I had the moniker "HONKYMF" or "WHITEBOY"...whatever. Shit, the white race is the last bastion of acceptable racial humor; the only race it seems to be OK to poke fun at, and you know what? I don't have a problem with it. I've found that it's rediculous to dislike someone based soley on their race. Usually, if I get to know them, I can find hundreds of much better reasons to dislike them. As for this place being "racially insensitive", 2 things: 1.) I find it fairly insensitive in general, much like the rest of the internet and, indeed, the world around at large. 2.) I'd like to do away with the all of the hyphenation regarding the identification of Americans. I suppose I don't get it and have a general problem discussing "racism" because it usually comes down to black/white. There are other races. In the course of my relatively short life, I've witnessed Black society's desire shift endlessly regarding how it wishes to be properly and respectfully addressed; from "colored", to "black" to "African-American". What am I? "Pigmentally Challenged?" Everybody is prejudiced, by definition, regardless of what they say, but that's NOT hate or intolerance. Sensitivity swings both ways, in all directions. I'm off my point really, and not even sure what it was, but I felt obliged to vent the second I read the topic. Peace. | |
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I'm offended that you're shocked and offended by these treacherous allegagations of treachery. It's a mockery of a tragedy of a mockery!
Oh the humanity! Can't we all get a bong? He who casts the first stone, shall have a slightly sore shoulder the next day. I have a dream, a very naughty dream, where there are naked jews and gentiles, black booty and white booty...What is your favorite color? 'Blue, no yellow...AAAHHH!' Daddy i want an Ooompa Loompa now ...And who may i say is calling? --------------------
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kevin said: NatTurner said: and other non-whites
this site should be reported to the Anti-Defamation League that website is www.adl.org but then again this site is ran by white guys where the only black person they know is Prince or something they heard on the radio lol I realise that this is total and complete troll-bait..but I would request 1 (ONE) single piece of evidence to the above statement? One? The continued allowance of Irishecho using Malcolm X's image in vain would be ONE. The fact the avatar was approved and not recognised speaks volumes IMO. VERY insensitive. | |
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Essence said: kevin said: NatTurner said: and other non-whites
this site should be reported to the Anti-Defamation League that website is www.adl.org but then again this site is ran by white guys where the only black person they know is Prince or something they heard on the radio lol I realise that this is total and complete troll-bait..but I would request 1 (ONE) single piece of evidence to the above statement? One? The continued allowance of Irishecho using Malcolm X's image in vain would be ONE. The fact the avatar was approved and not recognised speaks volumes IMO. VERY insensitive. How? | |
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it's true. i live in NYC and on Saturday i was on the bus with MJ and he said that Ben is racist and these are his exact words "truly, truly, truly devilish." he's also responsible for killing sales of invicible, which he did by writing someone a check for $500 million. that's because he's in incredible financial shape. (that's why he has the time to run the org) suppose he made all the dough because he's so devilish.
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herbthe4 said: How? I too wonder this...A couple people have gripped and I dont get it..Its an image... | |
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BLACKMF said: Aaron said: BLACKMF said: Sounds like a good point but really means nothing in relation to this knucklehead's accusation. So what if his wife is black? How is the site insensitive anyway? I do recall an overall wimpish stance on the BET inerview with Tavis Smiley a few years ago but I simply attributed that to a lack of intestinal fortitude more so than insensitivity. stop stealing my put-downs. I am the only true original on this site. YOu should dream that you are as good as FACE then why are you quoting me? | |
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AnitaThrill said: AnotherLoverHoleinYoHead said: AnitaThrill said: Black this black that. It's sickening already. If you "blacks" would stop crying there would be 50% less racism going on. You guys take everything too seriously, it's tiremsome already.
If whites jumped on every white comment you blacks make then this world would be a very ugly place. Stop racism, stop squaking when a white person calls you black and things will be just fine. [This message was edited Mon Jul 8 11:27:51 PDT 2002 by AnitaThrill] Absolutely inappropriate reaction/response, AnitaThrill. Especially the "you blacks" statements--by using those terms, you separate and stigmatize into "us vs. them". Sigh...you're the sort who give "us whites" a bad name. Actually, if you don't have anything to feel guilty or defensive about, then you wouldn't need to write the things you did... I'm not white. I'm Puerto Rican. I just feel as if some black people keep crying about things that happened a long time ago. There is still racism, unfortunately, but we all need to move on and squash this shit. Ouch. Damn dude, she shut u DOWN! Looks like u the one assumin' shit.  !!! | |
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Essence said: kevin said: NatTurner said: and other non-whites
this site should be reported to the Anti-Defamation League that website is www.adl.org but then again this site is ran by white guys where the only black person they know is Prince or something they heard on the radio lol I realise that this is total and complete troll-bait..but I would request 1 (ONE) single piece of evidence to the above statement? One? The continued allowance of Irishecho using Malcolm X's image in vain would be ONE. The fact the avatar was approved and not recognised speaks volumes IMO. VERY insensitive. More knowledge flows forth from the keyboard of E$$ence huh? I believe, and if u were more observant u would know this, that irishecho was merely saying that if ur willing 2 judge Abraham Lincoln, a white man, on one quote alone...u should give Malcolm X, a black man who was much more aggressive and less tactful, the same treatment 4 some of the irreponsible hateful things he urged blacks 2 do. Arent u from the UK? I dont believe a black boy from the UK would know half as much as I would,seeing that I actually live in the country where both Mr. X and Mr. Lincoln hail from. So sip ur goddamn tea and leave American history 2 Americans who know their shit since u can't seem 2 get it right, shortstop. | |
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Ben,Matt,& others at the ORG are cool.
I am glad that someone with the ability to create a website created one dedicated to Prince. However the new & improved version has created a place for non-prince fans to go to and cause chaos & disorder. I long for PRINCE.ORG version1. |
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Nep2nes said: AnitaThrill said: AnotherLoverHoleinYoHead said: AnitaThrill said: Black this black that. It's sickening already. If you "blacks" would stop crying there would be 50% less racism going on. You guys take everything too seriously, it's tiremsome already.
If whites jumped on every white comment you blacks make then this world would be a very ugly place. Stop racism, stop squaking when a white person calls you black and things will be just fine. [This message was edited Mon Jul 8 11:27:51 PDT 2002 by AnitaThrill] Absolutely inappropriate reaction/response, AnitaThrill. Especially the "you blacks" statements--by using those terms, you separate and stigmatize into "us vs. them". Sigh...you're the sort who give "us whites" a bad name. Actually, if you don't have anything to feel guilty or defensive about, then you wouldn't need to write the things you did... I'm not white. I'm Puerto Rican. I just feel as if some black people keep crying about things that happened a long time ago. There is still racism, unfortunately, but we all need to move on and squash this shit. Ouch. Damn dude, she shut u DOWN! Looks like u the one assumin' shit. !!!She hardly "shut me down", Nep2nes, just because she's not white.  My points are still the same and just as valid--1. using the term "you blacks" separates and stigmatizes them from the rest of humanity, as if they're subhuman, and 2. her defensiveness and anger about it (when supposedly she isn't racist) tells me there's some personal shit there she's venting... | |
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NatTurner said: and other non-whites
this site should be reported to the Anti-Defamation League that website is www.adl.org but then again this site is ran by white guys where the only black person they know is Prince or something they heard on the radio lol That's a pretty awful accusation. It's clear that many of the orgers here are either of African-American descent, non-whites, or some other ethnic minority. Racist attitudes aren't likely to "slip past people's radars." Can you give us a specific example of what you mean? ---------------------------------------------
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Oh goodie!
Another thread that plays the race card to get the Orgers all worked up!!! Hasn't all this crap been said before? Over & over & over & over & over & over again? & again? & again?
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THIS THREAD By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory! | |
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| Paleeez... | |
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What? you didn't elaborate. You are free to say this about everything | |
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I think some of you people need to get educated | |
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Your statement might be more accurate if you said SOME p.orgers are insensitive to African Americans.
There have been plenty of race debates on this site, and I have read quite a few racist comments, but many of those are made by the same few people. As a black female, if I thought this site as a whole was racist or insensitive to black people, I certainly wouldn't give it the time of day. There are many other Prince sites on the net. Granted, they aren't as interesting as this one, but I'd just have to make due.  | |
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Nep2nes said: Essence said: kevin said: NatTurner said: and other non-whites
this site should be reported to the Anti-Defamation League that website is www.adl.org but then again this site is ran by white guys where the only black person they know is Prince or something they heard on the radio lol I realise that this is total and complete troll-bait..but I would request 1 (ONE) single piece of evidence to the above statement? One? The continued allowance of Irishecho using Malcolm X's image in vain would be ONE. The fact the avatar was approved and not recognised speaks volumes IMO. VERY insensitive. More knowledge flows forth from the keyboard of E$$ence huh? I believe, and if u were more observant u would know this, that irishecho was merely saying that if ur willing 2 judge Abraham Lincoln, a white man, on one quote alone...u should give Malcolm X, a black man who was much more aggressive and less tactful, the same treatment 4 some of the irreponsible hateful things he urged blacks 2 do. Arent u from the UK? I dont believe a black boy from the UK would know half as much as I would,seeing that I actually live in the country where both Mr. X and Mr. Lincoln hail from. So sip ur goddamn tea and leave American history 2 Americans who know their shit since u can't seem 2 get it right, shortstop. Another inane, ignorant and imbecilic (The Third Eye) rant courtesy of the resident "silly little girl". Does anyone even reply to your posts anymore? Seems to me your last few hundred messages generally get bypassed no matter how much you stamp your feet trying to hijack a thread... the "Nep2nes Freakshow" is so tired. Anyways... Abraham Lincoln is a national hero who was in power and also in a majority and by the strength of recorded quotes by pure definition a "racist". Without any need to list his merits, Malcolm X was an intially aggressive, angry minority (so making any true racial discrimination a hard task) who's mother was born of a white man raping his grandmother and whose father was lynched by a white mob. Despite all this he managed to reconcile his anger before his murder. You do the math. | |
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nightwing said: I'm offended that you're shocked and offended by these treacherous allegagations of treachery. It's a mockery of a tragedy of a mockery!
Oh the humanity! Can't we all get a bong? He who casts the first stone, shall have a slightly sore shoulder the next day. I have a dream, a very naughty dream, where there are naked jews and gentiles, black booty and white booty...What is your favorite color? 'Blue, no yellow...AAAHHH!' Daddy i want an Ooompa Loompa now ...And who may i say is calling?  Can I have some of what the lady is having??? | |
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Nep2nes said: Essence said: kevin said: NatTurner said: and other non-whites
this site should be reported to the Anti-Defamation League that website is www.adl.org but then again this site is ran by white guys where the only black person they know is Prince or something they heard on the radio lol I realise that this is total and complete troll-bait..but I would request 1 (ONE) single piece of evidence to the above statement? One? The continued allowance of Irishecho using Malcolm X's image in vain would be ONE. The fact the avatar was approved and not recognised speaks volumes IMO. VERY insensitive. More knowledge flows forth from the keyboard of E$$ence huh? I believe, and if u were more observant u would know this, that irishecho was merely saying that if ur willing 2 judge Abraham Lincoln, a white man, on one quote alone...u should give Malcolm X, a black man who was much more aggressive and less tactful, the same treatment 4 some of the irreponsible hateful things he urged blacks 2 do. Arent u from the UK? I dont believe a black boy from the UK would know half as much as I would,seeing that I actually live in the country where both Mr. X and Mr. Lincoln hail from. So sip ur goddamn tea and leave American history 2 Americans who know their shit since u can't seem 2 get it right, shortstop. Speaking of which, you should only speak on the things you actually know about. IrishKlanman uses the image and quote to insult and inflame. His statement of 'one quote' is historically and factually wrong, and the information can be found in most biographies of Lincoln. If you want accurate American history, try this: 1) Lincoln died never repudiating his multiple statements on the inferiority of Blacks. 2) Malcolm died BECAUSE he repudiated his statements and speeches on race. He died believing all men, all races were equal. | |
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On the contrary, Lando, nothing I said was wrong. I cited the one quote because Prince is only citing one quote in his silly little song.
Lando said IrishKlanman uses the image and quote to insult and inflame. No, I was thinking it was more along the lines of word & picture association. Don't speak for me. Blando Lando says His statement of 'one quote' is historically and factually wrong, and the information can be found in most biographies of Lincoln. And there's far more than one anti-white quote from Malcolm X. Lando tries showing off his supposed "knowledge" If you want accurate American history, try this: And fails miserably. Lando insists 1) Lincoln died never repudiating his multiple statements on the inferiority of Blacks. Lincoln died because he was shot by a Southern Loyalist. Kind of of hard to repudiate anything when you're shot during a play. I know you have a problem with American History & all because it doesn't cater to the revisionist history of blacks, but it's quite widely known that the Southern Confederacy was the side that supported slavery in the U.S. & to them, Lincoln was the enemy. So they killed him. If he was pro-slavery, there would not have been a Civil War. And they wouldn't have killed him. Regardless of what may or may not have been his personal beliefs, in his professional capacity, Abraham Lincoln did more for blacks than any black man ever did. See, his efforts & the efforts of the Northern Alliance & abolitionists freed your people from a little thing called slavery, which was kind of a blocking factor for a lot of black people trying to make it in America back then. Think of slavery having the same impact then as today's malt liquor. Lando wants a cookie 2) Malcolm died BECAUSE he repudiated his statements and speeches on race. He died believing all men, all races were equal. But instead, goes away with his foot in his mouth. Malcolm X did nothing for blacks beyond teaching them to: 1) Blame someone else for their own problems. 2) React violently to anything that doesn't go exactly their way. The fact remains that for a man of his time, let alone the history of this country, Abraham Lincoln accomplished a great deal in helping black people gain their freedom & a slice of the American Pie. --Question authority. Ask me anything. [This message was edited Tue Jul 9 3:46:14 PDT 2002 by IrishEcho] | |
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Oh my god!! This is such a PATHETIC topic!!!
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lol damn... did michael from Good times never go out of carachter and now joined the org? get a grip militant midget | |
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IrishEcho said: On the contrary, Lando, nothing I said was wrong. I cited the one quote because Prince is only citing one quote in his silly little song.
Lando said IrishKlanman uses the image and quote to insult and inflame. No, I was thinking it was more along the lines of word & picture association. Don't speak for me. Blando Lando says His statement of 'one quote' is historically and factually wrong, and the information can be found in most biographies of Lincoln. And there's far more than one anti-white quote from Malcolm X. Lando tries showing off his supposed "knowledge" If you want accurate American history, try this: And fails miserably. Lando insists 1) Lincoln died never repudiating his multiple statements on the inferiority of Blacks. Lincoln died because he was shot by a Southern Loyalist. Kind of of hard to repudiate anything when you're shot during a play. I know you have a problem with American History & all because it doesn't cater to the revisionist history of blacks, but it's quite widely known that the Southern Confederacy was the side that supported slavery in the U.S. & to them, Lincoln was the enemy. So they killed him. If he was pro-slavery, there would not have been a Civil War. And they wouldn't have killed him. Regardless of what may or may not have been his personal beliefs, in his professional capacity, Abraham Lincoln did more for blacks than any black man ever did. See, his efforts & the efforts of the Northern Alliance & abolitionists freed your people from a little thing called slavery, which was kind of a blocking factor for a lot of black people trying to make it in America back then. Think of slavery having the same impact then as today's malt liquor. Lando wants a cookie 2) Malcolm died BECAUSE he repudiated his statements and speeches on race. He died believing all men, all races were equal. But instead, goes away with his foot in his mouth. Malcolm X did nothing for blacks beyond teaching them to: 1) Blame someone else for their own problems. 2) React violently to anything that doesn't go exactly their way. The fact remains that for a man of his time, let alone the history of this country, Abraham Lincoln accomplished a great deal in helping black people gain their freedom & a slice of the American Pie. --Question authority. Ask me anything. [This message was edited Tue Jul 9 3:46:14 PDT 2002 by IrishEcho] Obviously, you don't think much of Malcom X... So your use of his image is purely provocative, n'est-ce pas? | |
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My response to all of this...
...what the fuck?! I don't care what colour you are, where you are from or what you had for breakfast. I love you all. This stuff has to stop RIGHT NOW. | |
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Aerogram said: Obviously, you don't think much of Malcom X... So your use of his image is purely provocative, n'est-ce pas?[/quote] No, in my signature I generally mention black leaders who haven't always been especially kind to whites. For my avatar, I found a perfectly nasty looking Malcolm X which certainly is a valid example. | |
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Incidentally, Nat Turner, how can a site devoted to a black musician be insensitive to blacks? | |
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Scotty2funky said: My response to all of this...
...what the fuck?! I don't care what colour you are, where you are from or what you had for breakfast. I love you all. This stuff has to stop RIGHT NOW. Thank you! I totally agrea!! All that racism BS, quit that crap. --------------------------------------------------
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IrishEcho said: Aerogram said: Obviously, you don't think much of Malcom X... So your use of his image is purely provocative, n'est-ce pas? No, in my signature I generally mention black leaders who haven't always been especially kind to whites. For my avatar, I found a perfectly nasty looking Malcolm X which certainly is a valid example.[/quote] Not even you believe this rationalization. I'd prove my point by uploading a picture of Jesus Christ as my avatar and changing my signature to "There is no god", but it's too much effort and I'd insult christians in the process, so... Why don't you admit you're doing it to nag and be Big Bad IrishEcho? | |
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