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Reply #30 posted 01/27/06 2:08pm

BSK3366

Anx said:

Shorty said:


sosgemini is a girl? whofarted


so was that 'anxiety' chick. nod

and that Handclaps fella.
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Reply #31 posted 01/27/06 2:14pm

croweonbranch

I take my eyes off you guys for ONE MINUTE (ok, more like 45 minutes), and I miss all this?

Damn!
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Reply #32 posted 01/27/06 2:16pm

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Does everyone remember what they typed, and in what order? We can just retype the thread. OK, Tang, you start... cool
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Reply #33 posted 01/27/06 3:05pm

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Very disappointing that the threads were removed...

With all the junk, fake track lists, rumors that have been on this board.

Why this and why now? confused
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Reply #34 posted 01/27/06 3:09pm

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BTW, PP4 over at the club said that this is an official "wish-list" used by Universal for sales purposes, and emphasized that nothing is confirmed yet. PP4 also said "We expected it to be leaked, because information from Universal always gets leaked". lol
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Reply #35 posted 01/27/06 3:14pm

Anx

booyah said:

BTW, PP4 over at the club said that this is an official "wish-list" used by Universal for sales purposes, and emphasized that nothing is confirmed yet. PP4 also said "We expected it to be leaked, because information from Universal always gets leaked". lol


there's obviously not a very warm or cuddly bridge built between universal and npgmc. that's a damn shame, and i don't mean that with a bit of sarcasm.
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Reply #36 posted 01/27/06 3:21pm

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Anx said:[quote]

booyah said:

there's obviously not a very warm or cuddly bridge built between universal and npgmc. that's a damn shame, and i don't mean that with a bit of sarcasm.


Now I'm trying to picture a cuddly bridge in my head. Does it have graffiti on it?
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Reply #37 posted 01/27/06 3:22pm

Anx

booyah said:[quote]

Anx said:

booyah said:

there's obviously not a very warm or cuddly bridge built between universal and npgmc. that's a damn shame, and i don't mean that with a bit of sarcasm.


Now I'm trying to picture a cuddly bridge in my head. Does it have graffiti on it?


and horribly read poetry flows beneath it like the goddam river jordan.
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Reply #38 posted 01/27/06 4:01pm

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Anx said:

the 'black sweat' single thread has been locked too...and there's a universal records promo ad for it posted over at housequake. i'm all for mopping up the bogus rumors, but some of this stuff has already been confirmed. we gotta be careful what we're putting the lockdown on, especially considering universal seems to be sharing stuff with the public that i don't think even NPGMC knows they're sharing...the info is all over the place right now, it seems.


Shut it. mad You're starting to sound like one of us.

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Reply #39 posted 01/27/06 4:02pm

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Shorty said:

BeautifulFrance said:

Locking such threads is totally ridiculous.

Must be sogemini...when she found out Wendy and Lisa had not made the cut to be on 3121, she got pissed off. lol

sosgemini is a girl? whofarted


A lesbian in a gay mans body nod

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Reply #40 posted 01/27/06 4:04pm

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Anx said:

booyah said:

BTW, PP4 over at the club said that this is an official "wish-list" used by Universal for sales purposes, and emphasized that nothing is confirmed yet. PP4 also said "We expected it to be leaked, because information from Universal always gets leaked". lol


there's obviously not a very warm or cuddly bridge built between universal and npgmc. that's a damn shame, and i don't mean that with a bit of sarcasm.


There is a bridge and it's just around the corner and it goes nowhere.

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Reply #41 posted 01/27/06 4:04pm

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jpav said:

Very disappointing that the threads were removed...

With all the junk, fake track lists, rumors that have been on this board.

Why this and why now? confused


Why not? smile

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Reply #42 posted 01/27/06 4:18pm

Anx

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Anx said:

the 'black sweat' single thread has been locked too...and there's a universal records promo ad for it posted over at housequake. i'm all for mopping up the bogus rumors, but some of this stuff has already been confirmed. we gotta be careful what we're putting the lockdown on, especially considering universal seems to be sharing stuff with the public that i don't think even NPGMC knows they're sharing...the info is all over the place right now, it seems.


Shut it. mad You're starting to sound like one of us.



and you're starting to sound like....


































...one of THEM!!!


hmmm
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Reply #43 posted 01/27/06 5:31pm

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I'm sure glad I got to see that thread, even if it wasn't on the org! wink

It will be fun to see how much of that turns out to be true! nod

Edit: Regarding the "more than you can handle" info...someone started a thread at NPGMC with that list. PP4 said:

"Nothing is confirmed. This is a "wish list" the label created and is using on a sales page 2 start taking orders from retail. We xpected it 2 b leaked online (because everything from Universal gets leaked eventually). But again, NOTHING is confirmed."

http://www.npgmusicclub.c...p?t=130591

cool
[Edited 1/27/06 17:40pm]
"I would say that Prince's top thirty percent is great. Of that thirty percent, I'll bet the public has heard twenty percent of it." - Susan Rogers, "Hunting for Prince's Vault", BBC, 2015
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Reply #44 posted 01/27/06 5:37pm

superspaceboy

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Anx said:

superspaceboy said:



Shut it. mad You're starting to sound like one of us.



and you're starting to sound like....


































...one of THEM!!!


hmmm


eek No not THEMMMM!

Christian Zombie Vampires

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Reply #45 posted 01/28/06 2:10am

calldapplwonde
ry83

CandaceS said:

I'm sure glad I got to see that thread, even if it wasn't on the org! wink

It will be fun to see how much of that turns out to be true! nod

Edit: Regarding the "more than you can handle" info...someone started a thread at NPGMC with that list. PP4 said:

"Nothing is confirmed. This is a "wish list" the label created and is using on a sales page 2 start taking orders from retail. We xpected it 2 b leaked online (because everything from Universal gets leaked eventually). But again, NOTHING is confirmed."

http://www.npgmusicclub.c...p?t=130591

cool
[Edited 1/27/06 17:40pm]



This at least proves once and for all that Tangerine17 is legit.
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Reply #46 posted 01/28/06 5:09am

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calldapplwondery83 said:

CandaceS said:

I'm sure glad I got to see that thread, even if it wasn't on the org! wink

It will be fun to see how much of that turns out to be true! nod

Edit: Regarding the "more than you can handle" info...someone started a thread at NPGMC with that list. PP4 said:

"Nothing is confirmed. This is a "wish list" the label created and is using on a sales page 2 start taking orders from retail. We xpected it 2 b leaked online (because everything from Universal gets leaked eventually). But again, NOTHING is confirmed."

http://www.npgmusicclub.c...p?t=130591

cool
[Edited 1/27/06 17:40pm]



This at least proves once and for all that Tangerine17 is legit.


Well, I missed the thread before it was deleted, but if Tangerine17 really posted what has later been confirmed by PP's to be a real "wishlist" by Universal, then it clearly shows that the guy IS legit. Hence, it doesn't make sense to lock or delete his threads. I think we should be glad to get some insider info here.

I know though that moderation of this site is a difficult job and that this forum has been flooded with complete bs about new Prince projects for the last couple of months.
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Reply #47 posted 01/28/06 9:23am

calldapplwonde
ry83

Now why has the other thread with the list been deleted AGAIN? It SAID that it's a wish list and isn't confirmed yet. Damn.
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Reply #48 posted 01/28/06 9:38am

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calldapplwondery83 said:

Now why has the other thread with the list been deleted AGAIN? It SAID that it's a wish list and isn't confirmed yet. Damn.


Well, if things are deleted on here which are not even deleted, but answered on NPGMC, then this is indeed pretty strange.
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Reply #49 posted 01/28/06 10:02am

BananaCologne

Nothing is officially CONFIRMED ...yet, as such, those threads tend to be put to bed swiftly. A 'wish list' is not confirmation.

Certainly nothing to get all yo panites all up in a bunch about, just sayin' wink
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Reply #50 posted 01/28/06 10:42am

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square
[Edited 1/28/06 11:06am]
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Reply #51 posted 01/28/06 10:42am

Universaluv

EmancipationLover said:

square
[Edited 1/28/06 11:06am]



How's this,

for those interested, the wishlist can be read about and discussed here:

http://www.npgmusicclub.c...p?t=130591
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Reply #52 posted 01/28/06 1:50pm

Anx

Universaluv said:

EmancipationLover said:

square
[Edited 1/28/06 11:06am]



How's this,

for those interested, the wishlist can be read about and discussed here:

http://www.npgmusicclub.c...p?t=130591


we're linking to threads on NPGMC for information that isn't allowed here?

did i just click on to BIZZARO.ORG?! nuts
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Reply #53 posted 01/28/06 3:05pm

BananaCologne

Anx said:

Universaluv said:




How's this,

for those interested, the wishlist can be read about and discussed here:

http://www.npgmusicclub.c...p?t=130591


we're linking to threads on NPGMC for information that isn't allowed here?

did i just click on to BIZZARO.ORG?! nuts


Well, that certainly helps matters along.
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Reply #54 posted 01/28/06 3:26pm

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BananaCologne said:

Anx said:



we're linking to threads on NPGMC for information that isn't allowed here?

did i just click on to BIZZARO.ORG?! nuts


Well, that certainly helps matters along.


It's like finding out women can be priestresses at the Vatican, but not in your local church.
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Reply #55 posted 01/28/06 3:31pm

BananaCologne

Aerogram said:

BananaCologne said:



Well, that certainly helps matters along.


It's like finding out women can be priestresses at the Vatican, but not in your local church.


Isn't it just? Well, whatever - I just don't see why I'm the one seemingly taking all the heat for it, so knock yourselves out and do yer thing - the link's there if peeps wanna go read it for themsleves. That's all I've got to say on the matter as far as I'm concerned.
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Reply #56 posted 01/28/06 3:35pm

Anx

BananaCologne said:

Aerogram said:



It's like finding out women can be priestresses at the Vatican, but not in your local church.


Isn't it just? Well, whatever - I just don't see why I'm the one seemingly taking all the heat for it, so knock yourselves out and do yer thing - the link's there if peeps wanna go read it for themsleves. That's all I've got to say on the matter as far as I'm concerned.


hey, i'm not pointing a finger at you or any of the other mods. i have no idea who decided to keep this info off the org or why. it could be a perfectly logical reason. i just think it's an odd turn of events when the club will post rumored information and the org won't. but you know, more power to ya! smile
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Reply #57 posted 01/28/06 4:08pm

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BananaCologne said:

Aerogram said:



It's like finding out women can be priestresses at the Vatican, but not in your local church.


Isn't it just? Well, whatever - I just don't see why I'm the one seemingly taking all the heat for it, so knock yourselves out and do yer thing - the link's there if peeps wanna go read it for themsleves. That's all I've got to say on the matter as far as I'm concerned.


I don't know about who is taking heat really I just stumbled on this thread and found it odd speculation allowed on NPGMC is not allowed here. I think the fact it's not censored on his official site makes it a legitimate topic of discussion on the other sites. Besides, Prince courts speculation with his el mysterioso marketing style. It's only normal there's too much on the eve of a release -- you guys will exhaust yourselves trying to control it.
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Reply #58 posted 01/28/06 5:52pm

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Why Censorship?!
Is anyone offending anyone else? Is there a secret racial slur embedded in the 3121 info? Were there terrorist activities taking place? bomb

Reminder: This forum's purpose is to discuss Prince. Anyone who has the privilage of being a moderator (and therefore a community leader) should not have to be reminded of this simple purpose.

If there is a concern over invalid information, make a NEWS forum for confirmed news only. If the 3121 info was posted in Prince: Music and More and is eventually found to be valid, it can simply be moved to the NEWS forum. If it turns out to be fake info, it turns out to be fake info. If you find yourself emotionally impaired due to the let down of fake Prince information, you may be taking your fandom too seriously. Have some perspective with your overcooked beef.

Even locking the 3121 info thread would have been inappropriate- it containted (possibly valid) new information. But to delete it is just COLD.

Look What Happens When You Do Some Good Around Here: It blows up in your face more than once
Tangerine17 doesn't want to post here anymore. This is someone with valid "inside" information who took the time to share. It was a rare thing because no one with Prince affiliation EVER gives us inside info. It took the vocal minority two weeks to alienate the man.
- First there were a few skeptics who think that their doubt is an invitation to posting something angry or insulting. If you doubt someone's authenticity then ask relevent questions, find facts that offer a different point of view, or just "change the channel" and ignore the thread altogether. Unprovoked aggression doesn't impress any reasonable person. Most of us are reasonable.
- Tangerine is conviced to ignore a few immature people, and continued posting info as it occured. Besides, "Ultimate Prince" information, he also shares info on the 3121 album's promotion. Although Fullasoul (who has a longtime rep amongst the fan community) confirmed Tangerine17's info; although Tangerine's 3121 cover art info is confirmed only one day later; and although Tangerine's info COULD have been false but still was cautiously accepted by a decent majority of the community- his thread is deleted without explanation. Tangerine's information, however, is confirmed as valid (an official universal wishlist) only a couple hours later by NPGMC.

What a waste of good information. What a waste of Tangerine17's time. And my time, because now I'm writing this. I don't have to put time into this post, but information control and censorship should be taken seriously even in a Prince fan forum. People must be free to discuss whatever they like (in the context of the forum they choose). Off topic posts should be moved to the appropriate board or a "general/any topic". Offensive posts, unprovoked anger, blatent illegalness, name calling, and harrassment should be deleted. After that its all fair game, even if *YOU* don't like it. To be free one must respect the freedom of others, as they also do for you. Else the system doesn't work.
(The "you" isn't specific as there are a few who this applies to)

If I'm wrong, let me know. But I thought Prince.org was a place where discussion takes place freely.
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Reply #59 posted 01/28/06 6:39pm

murph

TheAStarr said:

Why Censorship?!
Is anyone offending anyone else? Is there a secret racial slur embedded in the 3121 info? Were there terrorist activities taking place? bomb

Reminder: This forum's purpose is to discuss Prince. Anyone who has the privilage of being a moderator (and therefore a community leader) should not have to be reminded of this simple purpose.

If there is a concern over invalid information, make a NEWS forum for confirmed news only. If the 3121 info was posted in Prince: Music and More and is eventually found to be valid, it can simply be moved to the NEWS forum. If it turns out to be fake info, it turns out to be fake info. If you find yourself emotionally impaired due to the let down of fake Prince information, you may be taking your fandom too seriously. Have some perspective with your overcooked beef.

Even locking the 3121 info thread would have been inappropriate- it containted (possibly valid) new information. But to delete it is just COLD.

Look What Happens When You Do Some Good Around Here: It blows up in your face more than once
Tangerine17 doesn't want to post here anymore. This is someone with valid "inside" information who took the time to share. It was a rare thing because no one with Prince affiliation EVER gives us inside info. It took the vocal minority two weeks to alienate the man.
- First there were a few skeptics who think that their doubt is an invitation to posting something angry or insulting. If you doubt someone's authenticity then ask relevent questions, find facts that offer a different point of view, or just "change the channel" and ignore the thread altogether. Unprovoked aggression doesn't impress any reasonable person. Most of us are reasonable.
- Tangerine is conviced to ignore a few immature people, and continued posting info as it occured. Besides, "Ultimate Prince" information, he also shares info on the 3121 album's promotion. Although Fullasoul (who has a longtime rep amongst the fan community) confirmed Tangerine17's info; although Tangerine's 3121 cover art info is confirmed only one day later; and although Tangerine's info COULD have been false but still was cautiously accepted by a decent majority of the community- his thread is deleted without explanation. Tangerine's information, however, is confirmed as valid (an official universal wishlist) only a couple hours later by NPGMC.

What a waste of good information. What a waste of Tangerine17's time. And my time, because now I'm writing this. I don't have to put time into this post, but information control and censorship should be taken seriously even in a Prince fan forum. People must be free to discuss whatever they like (in the context of the forum they choose). Off topic posts should be moved to the appropriate board or a "general/any topic". Offensive posts, unprovoked anger, blatent illegalness, name calling, and harrassment should be deleted. After that its all fair game, even if *YOU* don't like it. To be free one must respect the freedom of others, as they also do for you. Else the system doesn't work.
(The "you" isn't specific as there are a few who this applies to)

If I'm wrong, let me know. But I thought Prince.org was a place where discussion takes place freely.



I have to agree...The moderators here treat the Org like it's an official Prince site...I understand that you guys have to cover your asses due to legal issues, but people posting up "wish" list (hey, wish is the operative word guys!!!!!) should not be treated like mere bootleggers?) I don't get it...If I wanted this shit I would go to a Michael Jackson site where such censorship is par for the course...Really, I think you guys need to calm down and stop treating the Org like it's some Communist block...It's not that serious.....
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